i like to take a peek at the kids over on reddit every week or so.. this thread caught my eye:" curious….
do any ex jw or pimo, still believe the world is ending.
i see people who have never been witnesses think that the world will end soon and they say things like “jesus is coming soon”….
I believe that the Second Coming of Jesus Christ is what initiates the time of the end, and that is still future.
You don't know what you believe. You are a RK follower.
Jesus' so-called 'second coming' is after the 42-month GT of the 8th rule. Therefore, Jesus' coming does not imitate the 'time of the end', his 'second coming' concludes it, and begins the millennium rule.
most people on the planet have heard of the pope.. most people on the planet have never heard of the governing body..
I would like to make up a shirt that has print on front and back. The front would say 'I am happy the pope died'. Then when people react getting mad like idiots (over such a ridiculous man) because they would find it insulting that people are happy that their pope died, then I would turn around and the back would ask, 'aren't you happy the pope died and is in heaven now'?
the following is from the latest study watchtower july 2025, study article 28, paragraph 17:.
each christian must make up his or her own mind about whether to accept or to reject these fractions.
we may find it a challenge to understand this matter fully, but making decisions like this is part of the load that each of us must carry.
Stop relying on what people in the Bible said or wrote and understand the mechanics of the process itself.
LOL! What a clown you are.
First off, the Bible itself may very well just be made up BS from people of the past. But whether true or not, it still says what it says. That being the case, you have no choice but to rely on what 'people' of the Bible said/wrote. If you ignored what they say, then there is no basis for even considering anything pertaining to 'anointed', a 'resurrection', etc.
The first resurrection of the anointed who have died as already occurred.
If that is true, then tell me when was the 'last day' that that resurrection occurred?
[ 39 This is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose none out of all those whom he has given me, but that I should resurrect them on the last day. 40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who recognizes the Son and exercises faith in him should have everlasting life, and I will resurrect him on the last day.”]
It's simple. When Jesus became king, he resurrected the anointed who are already dead.
If that is true, when did the 'last trumpet' sound and why is there a trumpet sound heard in the future after the GT if you claim the 'last trumpet' already sounded?
[52 in a moment, in the blink of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised up incorruptible, and we will be changed.]
[29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity.]
rowan williams, the former archbishop of canterbury gave an interesting answer to the somewhat stark question, what’s the point of us existing?
as a christian, my starting point is that we exist because the most fundamental form of activity, energy, call it what you like, that is there, is love.
that is, it’s a willingness that the other should be.
I loved Wham too, but it seems that you are confusing Boy George with George Michael.
Wham! - Freedom (Live on Wogan 1984)
Or just maybe you are not confusing them, because they are both really part of a Trinity, along with George Harrison.
George Harrison - Got My Mind Set On You (Version II)
George Michael - Faith (Official Video)
Boy George - Karma Chameleon (Acoustic 1983)
the "slave's" understanding of the scriptures must be correct, so here's a clarification: ©.
(matthew 10:18) ....before governors and kings for jehovah's sake, for a witness..... (mark 13:9) ...be put on the stand......for jehovah's sake, for a witness to them.
(luke 24:47, 48) .
Don't know what you are laughing about. I said nothing about what Jesus' last words were. I asked who was Jesus a witness of/for?
[43 I have come in the name of my Father, but you do not receive me. If someone else came in his own name, you would receive that one.]
[38 for I have come down from heaven to do, not my own will, but the will of him who sent me.]
[30 I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative. Just as I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him who sent me.]
[ 25 Jesus answered them: “I told you, and yet you do not believe. The works that I am doing in my Father’s name, these bear witness about me.]
alot of my witness friends were excited sisters can now wear pants and you can say hi to disfellowshiped folks but what about important stuff child molesters in the congregation you need 2 witnesses blood fractions are fine but not whole blood????
607 bce is from the 1880s wrong....anything else?
Regarding birthdays, I understand what Rattigan means to an extent. Being born is an accident of circumstances for us (or fate, if you believe in that) - not something we put effort into. Whereas, making a marriage last another year requires effort from both parties.
Marriage is supposed to be until death parts you from one another. So every year that both husband and wife live, then they are going to remain married. Therefore, if a married couple celebrates their wedding anniversary each year, what they are really celebrating is that neither one of them died during that year. Where's the effort in that?
If you claim that regardless of marriage supposing to be until death, that many get a divorce because they don't get along and have to put effort into making their marriage last year to year and therefore should celebrate each year that they make it, then I guess that can apply to any relationship friend or family member. You should celebrate every year with whomever you stay friends with and with whatever family you continue to have a relationship with. Doesn't it take effort to keep relationships with all people, not just spouses? Either celebrate yearly each and every relationship you have with a person or realized that it is foolish to think there is reason to celebrate a wedding date.
Again, the question I am waiting to hear an answer to from Rattigan is why do JWs have baby showers? And how does the reason for doing so not apply to year one and two, etc.. of that same child that a baby shower was given for?
the following is from the latest study watchtower july 2025, study article 28, paragraph 17:.
each christian must make up his or her own mind about whether to accept or to reject these fractions.
we may find it a challenge to understand this matter fully, but making decisions like this is part of the load that each of us must carry.
When Jesus became king, he cleansed the heavens as John 14:2-6 (prepared a place for the apostles) and Rev 12 says casting out Satan from the heavens. Then those dead in Christ were raised to heaven. Then after that time, any anointed left, when they died were instantly raised to heaven.
So, if you believe the resurrection has already occurred, then does that mean that you believe the 'last day' has come and the 'last trumpet' has blown?
[ 39 This is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose none out of all those whom he has given me, but that I should resurrect them on the last day. 40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who recognizes the Son and exercises faith in him should have everlasting life, and I will resurrect him on the last day.”]
[24 Martha said to him: “I know he will rise in the resurrection on the last day.”]
[52 in a moment, in the blink of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised up incorruptible, and we will be changed.]
[29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity.]
[8 However, do not let this escape your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day.]
[4 And I saw thrones, and those who sat on them were given authority to judge. Yes, I saw the souls of those executed for the witness they gave about Jesus and for speaking about God, and those who had not worshipped the wild beast or its image and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand. And they came to life and ruled as kings with the Christ for 1,000 years.]
[ 7 But you who suffer tribulation will be given relief along with us at the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels 8 in a flaming fire, as he brings vengeance on those who do not know God and those who do not obey the good news about our Lord Jesus. 9 These very ones will undergo the judicial punishment of everlasting destruction from before the Lord and from the glory of his strength, 10 at the time when he comes to be glorified in connection with his holy ones and to be regarded in that day with wonder among all those who exercised faith, because the witness we gave met with faith among you.]
alot of my witness friends were excited sisters can now wear pants and you can say hi to disfellowshiped folks but what about important stuff child molesters in the congregation you need 2 witnesses blood fractions are fine but not whole blood????
607 bce is from the 1880s wrong....anything else?
What does celebrating wedding anniversaries and having baby showers have to do with celebrating birthdays? Wedding anniversaries are to celebrate an accomplishment as what celebrations are for. Celebrating the anniversary of one's birth is not an accomplishment. Especially for children.
The day of the actual wedding ceremony there is a celebration/reception. What accomplishment is there for yearly celebrating that day again?
Why do JWs have baby shower celebrations? Isn't that actually a pre-birthday celebration?
(Food, cake, games with friends and family. Gifts for child in mom's belly who is about to be born.)
the july 2025 watchtower has a paragraph that claims that it was the superior power and wisdom of jehovah that guided the gb into allowing jws to grow beards.. the study article is ‘can you still learn from basic bible teachings?’ under the subheading ‘jehovah is the creator’ paragraph 7 states-.
“ 7. what did rahela do to accept a change in direction?.
your answer.
So does that mean that if Jesus had a beard that he was unhygienic and lazy?
curious.
what was your local memorial attendance like tonight?
11/79 WT - Ever since the spring of 1938 they have been invited to attend the annual memorial celebration of Christ’s death, not to partake of the memorial emblems, the unleavened bread and the red wine, but as respectful observers"
[26 For whenever you eat observe this loaf and drink observe this cup, you keep proclaiming the death of the Lord, until he comes.'
