The overlapping generation teaching is true! It all makes sense, any who don't believe it or understand it must have the wrong attitude. LOL!
Overlapping Generation - Jehovah Witnesses Weirdest Doctrine (youtube.com)
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126Overlapping Generation
by pandorasbox1914 inthe september 2015 broadcast had david splane explain matthew 24:34 “truly, i say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place”.
his explanation of this scripture was by means of a chart to indicate an overlapping generation.. .
no scripture was used to show the overlapping generation concept, and as a result it makes no sense.. to illustrate how crazy this concept is, look at the lyrics of the song my generation.. my generation.
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Watchtower Used to Teach Jesus Was Not an Angel and was "the Lord from Heaven" Who Died on a Cross!
by Sea Breeze in.
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no wonder they instructed congregation elders to throw away old literature from kingdon hall libraries.
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3739. ὅς, (hos, hé, ho)
[ 16 Indeed, the sacred secret of this godly devotion is admittedly great: ‘He (3739) was made manifest in flesh, was declared righteous in spirit, appeared to angels, was preached about among nations, was believed upon in the world, was received up in glory.’]
[ 7 Little children, let no one mislead you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as that one is righteous. 8 The one who practices sin originates with the Devil, because the Devil has been sinning from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was made manifest, to break up the works of the Devil.]
[14 So the Word became flesh and resided among us, and we had a view of his glory, a glory such as belongs to an only-begotten son from a father; and he was full of divine favor and truth.]
[ 9 By this the love of God was revealed in our case, that God sent his only-begotten Son into the world so that we might gain life through him.]
[ 11 And this is the witness, that God gave us everlasting life, and this life is in his Son. 12 The one who has the Son has this life; the one who does not have the Son of God does not have this life.]
[ 31 But these have been written down so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and because of believing, you may have life by means of his name.][13 I write you these things so that you may know that you have life everlasting, you who put your faith in the name of the Son of God.]
[21 After eight days, when it was time to circumcise him, he was named Jesus (2424) , the name given by the angel before he was conceived.]
2424. Iésous – Jesus, the transliteration of the Hebrew term, 3091 /Lṓt ("Yehoshua"/Jehoshua)
3091. Yehoshua - (Jehoah is Salvation)
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Do JWs believe Jesus is an angel?
by slimboyfat ini would suggest:.
the short answer is yes.. the longer answer is a qualified yes, with some caveats.
the short answer is yes because jehovah’s witnesses teach that jesus is michael the archangel, their leader, eldest and most powerful, and have taught this since the very beginning of the religion.
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As I said on another thread, Jehovah God is a spirit being. His first creation was another spirit being. After that first spirit being was created, many more spirit beings were created. All of those spirit beings that Jehovah created are his spirit sons, Jesus being the first one of those spirit sons.
Now the question, is Jesus an angel? What is an angel?
Both the Hebrew mal·ʼakhʹ and the Greek agʹge·los literally mean “messenger.” - One bearing a message, either oral or written.
minister - a person or thing used to achieve or convey something; attend to the needs of someone.
[ 4 He (Jehovah) makes his angels spirits, His ministers a consuming fire.]
[20 Praise Jehovah, all you his angels, mighty in power, Who carry out his word, obeying his voice. 21 Praise Jehovah, all his armies, His ministers who do his will.]
[ 16 Jesus, in turn, answered them and said: “What I teach is not mine, but belongs to him who sent me.]
[30 I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative. Just as I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him who sent me.]
[ 28 Just as the Son of man came, not to be ministered to, but to minister and to give his life as a ransom in exchange for many.”]
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onacruise - Craig Mills 1952-2011
by Lady Lee ini was given the link to a bit of information regarding on old poster/moderator of this forum.
i was not sure of the validity of the information so have been trying to find out if it is true.. earlier today craig's estranged wife, kate, (bikerchic) confirmed that craig died at his home on aug 10, 2011.. i am sure that many people here remember craig's time here and how he went out of his way to offer support to posters, even calling them, to give whatever help he could as they adjusted to their post-jw lives.. i know many people here will grieve his loss.. --------------.
ps i tried posting this earlier but the computer i was working with would not allow the posts.
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Sad to add Atlantis to the list.
Atlantis
Here is an odd thing but not surprisingly. Bobcat's last post here was thanking Atlantis.
Atlantis's last post here was replying to being thanked.
Many here were thankful for him.
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onacruise - Craig Mills 1952-2011
by Lady Lee ini was given the link to a bit of information regarding on old poster/moderator of this forum.
i was not sure of the validity of the information so have been trying to find out if it is true.. earlier today craig's estranged wife, kate, (bikerchic) confirmed that craig died at his home on aug 10, 2011.. i am sure that many people here remember craig's time here and how he went out of his way to offer support to posters, even calling them, to give whatever help he could as they adjusted to their post-jw lives.. i know many people here will grieve his loss.. --------------.
ps i tried posting this earlier but the computer i was working with would not allow the posts.
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What would happen if the religion just straight out gets outed as bad? The ORG admits to it and all the members get told to disperse
by Starlight.vee inlike the org just gives up and comes out saying that all of what they are saying is untrue and that there is no armageddon, nothing.
how do y’all think the the members still in it would react?.
there be a mental health crisis i perhaps.
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Until you give up your heretical pagan worship of angels, you are stuck. In response to John’s wrongful attempt to worship an angel in Revelation, the angel says, “See that you do not do that!
The angel told John not to worship him because that angel was not God, he was a minister of God which all angels are. And not only is Jehovah God a spirit but all angels are spirits, and all angels are God's sons', including Satan.
[min·is·ter - a person or thing used to achieve or convey something; attend to the needs of (someone):]
[8 Well I, John, was the one hearing and seeing these things. When I heard and saw them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing me these things. 9 But he tells me: “Be careful! Do not do that! I am only a fellow slave of you and of your brothers the prophets and of those observing the words of this scroll. Worship God.”]
[24 God is a Spirit, ]
[ 4 He makes his angels spirits, His ministers a consuming fire.]
[14 Are they not all spirits for holy service, sent out to minister for those who are going to inherit salvation?]
[ 11 Then the Devil left him, and look! angels came and began to minister to him.]
[ 12 because we have a struggle, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places.]
[ 7 When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause?]
[2 Afterward the day came when the sons of the true God entered to take their station before Jehovah, and Satan also entered among them to take his station before Jehovah.]
[ 2 the sons of the true God began to notice that the daughters of men were beautiful. So they began taking as wives all whom they chose.]
[ 18 For Christ died once for all time for sins, a righteous person for unrighteous ones, in order to lead you to God. He was put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit. 19 And in this state he went and preached to the spirits in prison, 20 who had formerly been disobedient when God was patiently waiting in Noah’s day, while the ark was being constructed]
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What's next?
by lastmanstanding inwhat's next for the world?
a year ago i edited a map of the world to include some big arrows to tell the story of what is to come.
and i shared that map with various friends.
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The inversion of the short and long ends is normalizing as it does prior to a recession. The markets are beginning to fall and the house of cards, the massive US Wall St Ponzi scheme is ending.
Dow plunges more than 1,000 points amid U.S. recession fears (msn.com)
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What's next?
by lastmanstanding inwhat's next for the world?
a year ago i edited a map of the world to include some big arrows to tell the story of what is to come.
and i shared that map with various friends.
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What would happen if the religion just straight out gets outed as bad? The ORG admits to it and all the members get told to disperse
by Starlight.vee inlike the org just gives up and comes out saying that all of what they are saying is untrue and that there is no armageddon, nothing.
how do y’all think the the members still in it would react?.
there be a mental health crisis i perhaps.
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Duran
The bible commands Christians to be able to give an answer to anyone who demands a reason for the hope that is in you. It's a good test to see if someone is deluded.
Exactly and yet you fail to give answers to what I asked you above and to the other 5 questions I asked here.
You spend the time replying back with all the nonsense you wrote above, but you could have easily taken that time to answer what I asked if you know the answers. Instead, you evade and deflect from answering by going on a rant and then trying to make it about me answering something that you asked even though it was YOU that came in on a topic started by 'lastmanstanding' and started talking your rapture nonsense. You are the one that needs to answer to defend what you believe, not me.
That said, I did answer you on what it takes to get saved during the 8th king's rule and that is to refuse to take the MOTB/refuse to support him, be willing to not be able to buy/sell, be taken captive and even killed. WHY? Because in doing so you would be showing/proving your faith in Jehovah and Jesus and their kingdom that will come after the 8th king 42-month rule/GT.
Refusing the MOTB will make one part of the great crowd and that is whom God spreads his tent over. And some among them will be ones that rule with Jesus. (All these will be saved/everlasting life.) All that take the MOTB, including the beast/8th king himself will receive God's wrath after the 42-month rule. (All these will have everlasting cutoff/will not be saved.) 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10 / 8th king rule
Because I believe that all references to Jesus' coming occur after the 42 month/GT of the 8th king, then anything that I say about being saved only applies to what I just said about refusing the MOTB/the 8th king. All that died prior to the 8th king 'hour of judgment from God' will be resurrected and still have a chance at everlasting life with those that already will have it. John 5:28,29
Because it is you that says there is a rapture due to Jesus coming prior to the 8th king rule, it is you who should answer questions to defend that notion.
And because I believe that Jehovah and Jesus are two different individuals, and you believe they are the same person, it is you who has to explain who gave Jesus that authority and how they (apostles) are to be 'one' just as Jehovah and Jesus are 'one' and why Jesus himself said he is God's son.
Everyone there understood Jesus was claiming to be God here.
Funny how you side with the unbelieving Jews who wanted to stone Jesus. You use their false claim of saying Jesus was the one claiming to be god and yet you don't take Jesus at his word and that of John and a voice from heaven that he is God's son.
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Vice President Kamala Harris…your thoughts??
by minimus ingood pick?
bad pick?
helpful to president biden?
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Obama wasn’t black either, he was mixed race and not even African American, as his father was from Kenya, not a US Citizen.
Larry David is Suspicious (youtube.com)
I don't know about that. I know it is said that his father is from Kenya, but I don't think that is real father. I think his father is Frank Davis from Kansas.