Yep, joined 4 days ago and now already liking Richard Simmons younger long lost Finnish brother...seems like EP/FTM.
Posts by Duran
-
8I just made a video that every JW should see.
by Kosonen ini just made a video every jw should see.
the aim of this video is to help jehovah's witnesses be more open to constructive critisism, especially from their own members, that are swiftly excommunicated /disfellowshipped/ removed from the congregation if they dare to point out their religion's flaws concerning doctrine and practises, even when there is scriptural evidence.
i have first hand experience of that.. https://youtu.be/71zcv7lux3g.
-
-
-
73
JWN, 23 years posting Blondie
by blondie incan i call you friends, i think so after 23 years posting here.
i am dismayed how jwn is being "dominated" or taken over by a few posters, peppering the comments.
in the past, the admin did not approve of this and did remove some posters from jwn.
-
-
Duran
No one lied to you. Just because a writer in the past had more faith of expectation than actually happened, does not make it a lie.
Lie -
1 - to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive
2 - to create a false or misleading impression
The writers in the past did neither to create a lie.[13 And the word of Jehovah again came to me, saying: 2 “Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel, and say to those who fabricate their own prophecies, ‘Hear the word of Jehovah. 3 This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: “Woe to the stupid prophets, who follow their own spirit, when they have seen nothing! 4 O Israel, your prophets have become like foxes among the ruins. 5 You will not go to the broken places in the stone walls to rebuild them for the house of Israel, so that Israel may keep standing in the battle in the day of Jehovah.” 6 “They have seen false visions and foretold a lie, those who are saying, ‘The word of Jehovah is,’ when Jehovah himself has not sent them, and they have waited for their word to come true. 7 Is it not a false vision that you have seen and a lie that you have foretold when you say, ‘The word of Jehovah is,’ when I have not said anything?”’8 “‘Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: “‘Because you have spoken what is false and your visions are a lie, I am against you,’ declares the Sovereign Lord Jehovah.” 9 My hand is against the prophets whose visions are false and who foretell a lie. They will not be among the people with whom I confide; nor will they be written in the registry of the house of Israel; nor will they return to the land of Israel; and you will have to know that I am the Sovereign Lord Jehovah. 10 All of this is because they have led my people astray by saying, “There is peace!” when there is no peace. When a flimsy partition wall is built, they are plastering it with whitewash.’]
Thursday, October 10
Happy is that slave if his master . . . finds him doing so!—Matt. 24:46.
Jesus foretold that during the time of the end, he would appoint a “faithful and discreet slave” to provide spiritual food. (Matt. 24:45) This has proved to be the case. Our overseer has used a small group of anointed men to provide God’s people and interested ones with spiritual “food at the proper time.” These men do not view themselves as masters over the faith of others. (2 Cor. 1:24) Instead, they recognize that Jesus Christ is the “leader and commander” of his people. (Isa. 55:4) Since 1919 the faithful slave has prepared a variety of publications that have given newly interested ones their first taste of nourishing spiritual food. In 1921 the slave prepared the book The Harp of God to help interested ones to learn basic Bible teachings. As times changed, additional publications were provided. Which publication helped you to come to know and love our heavenly Father? w22.07 10 ¶9-10
Examining the Scriptures Daily—2024It is a LIE to say they were appointed in 1919 to be the F&DS. They have created false/untrue statements/teachings in order to deceive/mislead people to believe the LIE that they were appointed in 1919.
-
60
1/25 WT: Oral and Anal sex are a go - if she's ok with it
by neat blue dog inhe will not pressure her to engage in sexual acts that make her feel uncomfortable, that are demeaning, or that bother her conscience..... the bible does not provide details as to what sexual practices between a husband and a wife should be considered clean or unclean.
a christian couple must make decisions that reflect their resolve to honor jehovah, to please each other, and to maintain a clean conscience.
generally speaking, a couple would not discuss with others this intimate aspect of their marriage..
-
-
Duran
Do you think a Chihuahua lives longer than a German Sheperd because it is physically and mentally stronger.....
-
60
1/25 WT: Oral and Anal sex are a go - if she's ok with it
by neat blue dog inhe will not pressure her to engage in sexual acts that make her feel uncomfortable, that are demeaning, or that bother her conscience..... the bible does not provide details as to what sexual practices between a husband and a wife should be considered clean or unclean.
a christian couple must make decisions that reflect their resolve to honor jehovah, to please each other, and to maintain a clean conscience.
generally speaking, a couple would not discuss with others this intimate aspect of their marriage..
-
-
Duran
In the 21st century
we know better, women live longer than men, that's physical and mental strength, just for starters.LOL!
A Chihuahua lives longer than a German Sheperd.
-
60
1/25 WT: Oral and Anal sex are a go - if she's ok with it
by neat blue dog inhe will not pressure her to engage in sexual acts that make her feel uncomfortable, that are demeaning, or that bother her conscience..... the bible does not provide details as to what sexual practices between a husband and a wife should be considered clean or unclean.
a christian couple must make decisions that reflect their resolve to honor jehovah, to please each other, and to maintain a clean conscience.
generally speaking, a couple would not discuss with others this intimate aspect of their marriage..
-
-
Duran
kept my mouth shut
so, no oral I'm guessing?
-
73
JWN, 23 years posting Blondie
by blondie incan i call you friends, i think so after 23 years posting here.
i am dismayed how jwn is being "dominated" or taken over by a few posters, peppering the comments.
in the past, the admin did not approve of this and did remove some posters from jwn.
-
-
Duran
Some do promote their own religious beliefs
I know and as I said, 'I am not advocating for promoting/evangelizing a particular religious point of view here'.
But as I also said: 'It seems to be a confusing fine line here.'
No where on the main page do I see the word 'atheist' and that you must be one/share their views.
On the main page it says: 'Discussion Forum' and 'a friendly, tolerant and informative environment'
and:
Be nice
We're a global community of people from many different cultures and backgrounds. Not everyone is going to share the same beliefs or opinions but everyone has the right to feel comfortable using and visiting the site.So, if I have a belief or opinion about the Bible, I should be comfortable sharing it while at the same time not pushing it to the point that I am right therefore you should believe me.
At the same time an atheist should by all means share why they don't believe but not to the point that because they have come to that conclusion that they are right, and all believers are fools for their faith.
-
73
JWN, 23 years posting Blondie
by blondie incan i call you friends, i think so after 23 years posting here.
i am dismayed how jwn is being "dominated" or taken over by a few posters, peppering the comments.
in the past, the admin did not approve of this and did remove some posters from jwn.
-
-
Duran
There is a huge difference between promoting and analysing.
I am not advocating for promoting/evangelizing a particular religious point of view here. I am just pointing out that when it comes to ex-JWs which this site is claimed to be for, that many ex-JWs/PIMOs have not stop believing in the Bible, etc, they have just stop beieveing in the WTS/GB. Because of that if they are here then that is going to come through when speaking/posting here.
analysing the doctrines that once held us all captive is helpful.
Agreed. But for many analyzing and finding out WTS/GB doctrine is BS does not = thinking the Bible is BS. I know that you believe that it is, and I can understand why you feel that way, but the captive part was to the WTS/GB, not to the Bible.
Again, I am not saying believe the Bible or not, I am just saying that I think there are more ex-JWs that still believe in the Bible, etc. then those who became atheist, so that when coming on an ex-JW site it is not surprising to see these ex-JWs still talk about the Bible and belief in God as it pertains to the future as there is even a topics for that here.
News & World Events
Current Affairs, current news and major world EventsPolitics & Current Affairs
Political debate and other current affairs discussions -
73
JWN, 23 years posting Blondie
by blondie incan i call you friends, i think so after 23 years posting here.
i am dismayed how jwn is being "dominated" or taken over by a few posters, peppering the comments.
in the past, the admin did not approve of this and did remove some posters from jwn.
-
-
Duran
This is not a place to promote religious beliefs.
Bible Research & Study Articles
Critical analysis of the WatchTower Bible & Tract Society publications and the bibleBeliefs, Doctrine & Practices
What Jehovah's Witnesses believe and why they do what they doIt seems to be a confusing fine line here. If you are an ex-JW, it would seem that you believed in Jehovah, Jesus and the Bible and that the WTS/GB being the ones that were chosen to teach about them.
Then it seems that because of many different factors having to do with the WTS/GB, that it causes many to stop believing in the WTS/GB, which in turn causes them to become an ex-JW.
Stopping believing in the WTS/GB does not = stopping believing in Jehovah, Jesus and the Bible.
So, is this site truly for ex-JWs or is it only for ex-JWs that no longer believe in Jehovah, Jesus, and the Bible as a result of their stop believing in the WTS/GB?
I had always thought that this site was made up of all people that are ex-JWs or PIMOs but had varying degrees of belief in the Bible, Jehovah and Jesus.
I thought the common hatred/anger had to do with the WTS/GB, not the Bible, etc. Even the strongest atheist here, if they were JWs at some point, then they themselves read the Bible and prayed to Jehovah in the past.
I get that the disappointment and wrong doings of the WTS/GB led to the anger/hatred of them. I even get that that leads to the disbelief in God and the Bible for some. But I don't understand why those ex-JWs are against the ex-JWs that have not lost their belief in the Bible, etc.
One of the most effective ways to show that the WTS/GB are full of shit in what they teach is to use the Bible (Scriptures) along with their own publications.
If someone points out the BS from the WTS in regard to 607/537, 1914/1918, etc. they get a LIKE from the atheist. If that same someone while pointing out the BS of the 42 months with 1914/1918, says that those 42 months are still future, then it is a DISLIKE because the atheist does not like that this someone still believes in the Bible even though they showed that the WTS/GB were wrong in what they say.
-
47
2024 Annual Meeting Doctrinal Change
by Listener ina change to their doctrine came from jackson.
this isn't a transcript of his whole speech but i thought i would try and get some of his main speech in writing.. at around 1hr26 minutes he starts talking about some dangerous thinking in feeling there is some wiggle room in regards to the schedule for the gt.
but you see, we need to be careful about what we are thinking about the number of anointed ones left on earth.
-
-
Duran
July 2013 Watchtower which says “In the larger fulfillment, the “standing” will occur when the United Nations (the modern-day “disgusting thing”) attacks Christendom (which is holy in the eyes of nominal Christians) and the rest of Babylon the Great. The same attack is described at Revelation 17:16-18. That event will be the beginning of the great tribulation.”
In 2018 they made this change,
Clarification: Conditions in unfaithful Jerusalem—such as idolatry and widespread corruption—remind us of Christendom, but we no longer refer to Christendom as the antitypical Jerusalem.
So, if the is the case what is the holy place/Jerusalem that the UN/DT is supposed to stand in/attack?
-
47
2024 Annual Meeting Doctrinal Change
by Listener ina change to their doctrine came from jackson.
this isn't a transcript of his whole speech but i thought i would try and get some of his main speech in writing.. at around 1hr26 minutes he starts talking about some dangerous thinking in feeling there is some wiggle room in regards to the schedule for the gt.
but you see, we need to be careful about what we are thinking about the number of anointed ones left on earth.
-
-
Duran
I said this already elsewhere:
When using the word anointed from JW world, they are referring to those chosen to rule with Jesus.
The time of the 8th king and taking the MOTB has not come yet, therefore no one has been forced to take it or refuse it.
No one from the WTS from its start in 1879 to the present that have died already could have been chosen to rule with Jesus according to what is said about those chosen to rule with him, at least where it refers to the MOTB.
[4 And I saw thrones, and those who sat on them were given authority to judge. Yes, I saw the souls of those executed for the witness they gave about Jesus and for speaking about God, and those who had not worshipped the wild beast or its image and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand. And they came to life and ruled as kings with the Christ for 1,000 years.]
Partaking means nothing in regard to being chosen to rule with Jesus. If one was not killed for their faith in God and in Jesus or living during the time of the 8th king and was then killed while faithfully refusing him, they are not of the anointed to be chosen to rule with Jesus.
[9 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those slaughtered because of the word of God and because of the witness they had given. 10 They shouted with a loud voice, saying: “Until when, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, are you refraining from judging and avenging our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” 11 And a white robe was given to each of them, and they were told to rest a little while longer, until the number was filled of their fellow slaves and their brothers who were about to be killed as they had been.]