Posts by Halcon

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Money Is The Answer For Everything - Eccl. 10: 19 (NASB)

by Sea Breeze in

do jehovahs witnesses believe eccl.

10: 19 is literal or is limited in application in some way?

money is the answer for everything - eccl.

Halcon

LongHairGal

And the change of attitude for everyone is of no fault of their own. What else were you supposed to do now that the horizon was so uncertain.

And yet, not too long ago... perhaps 2016... a couple of elders still came up to me and essentially judged me for working on meeting nights during my company's 4th quarter rush. I told them sorry peeps, but I gotta support my family. They proceeded to give me the old not enough faith schpeal to which I responded don't worry I'll be back to weekday meetings by January.

To be fair, some elders I knew were totally fine with that. Unfortunately, the judgemental ones by definition were always the loudest.

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Money Is The Answer For Everything - Eccl. 10: 19 (NASB)

by Sea Breeze in

do jehovahs witnesses believe eccl.

10: 19 is literal or is limited in application in some way?

money is the answer for everything - eccl.

Halcon

I think after 1995 the attitude of JW towards money drastically changed. So I believe that yes, they consider the verse these days as quite literal.

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Is there really a Bible rule against sex without marriage?

by Halcon in

regarding the poster from jw headquarters, who claimed that the gb would eventually loosen the rules regarding sex.

the question is, is there really a bible rule explicitly prohibiting sex without marriage?

because this would be the only possible reason why loosening those rules would even come up in a discussion.

Halcon

Additionally, private consensual intimacy and sex between adults of the opposite sex will be a conscience matter, as long as vaginal sex and pregnancy is not involved and as long as the activities are not broadcast openly to other members of the congregation. If a married person is involved, they must receive permission from their spouse and then respect their mate's decision if they refuse to permit it, otherwise a judicial committee will be formed and repeated attempts will be made to help that one gain "repentance.

There are two things that I believe are implied from the above. First (in the absence of vaginal sex) oral and even anal sex is a conscious matter. A conscious matter? That's huge.

Second, if a married person DOES receive permission from their spouse to have sex with someone else...is this now a conscious matter as well?

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The TWO new things to come this year for J.W Org !

by Phizzy in

while having my first strong black coffee of the day, i was thinking about what may be to come next as the org.

rapidly goes mainstream, and this is what i came up with :.

1) they will introduce for sunday, the after meeting fellowship, a time for just chatting but with the added bonus of coffee and snacks.

Halcon

However right now, I'm finding that the private conversations after the meeting much more interesting, with many of our good folk, making up their own wish lists of changes.

I heard the same thing at the memorial after dinner. It turned into a game of sorts hehe.

Birthdays are apparently high on the list for everyone. Wearing jeans and dress shorts to the meetings came up. College, being a doctor, being a cop. Men wearing long hair too. The blood thing was not mentioned.

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Is there really a Bible rule against sex without marriage?

by Halcon in

regarding the poster from jw headquarters, who claimed that the gb would eventually loosen the rules regarding sex.

the question is, is there really a bible rule explicitly prohibiting sex without marriage?

because this would be the only possible reason why loosening those rules would even come up in a discussion.

Halcon

Regarding the poster from JW headquarters, who claimed that the GB would eventually loosen the rules regarding sex.

The question is, is there really a Bible rule explicitly prohibiting sex without marriage? Because this would be the only possible reason why loosening those rules would even come up in a discussion.

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The TWO new things to come this year for J.W Org !

by Phizzy in

while having my first strong black coffee of the day, i was thinking about what may be to come next as the org.

rapidly goes mainstream, and this is what i came up with :.

1) they will introduce for sunday, the after meeting fellowship, a time for just chatting but with the added bonus of coffee and snacks.

Halcon

An episcopal church service I sometimes watch online always has the priest reminding everyone that there is coffee and snacks after service so everyone stick around.

Its a mainstream thing so this is certainly possible.

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Thoughts on Likely Upcoming Changes in the Org.

by Phizzy in

i am thinking that the "ten year plan" that some have spoken of is the most likely scenario.

the org.

has to both attract new members and retain as many existing ones as possible.. so i think they will let the recent changes "bed in" for a while, maybe a year ?

Halcon

To remember the significance of the 1995 change, a person would have to be at least 40 years old.

I'm 45 and I certainly remember. It was pretty monumental even to a teenager like me back then. It was also incredibly strange. I kept asking 'so Armageddon isn't coming in the next two years three years max??'

I remember going out to dinner with friends and their parents. The parents would carry that watchtower and read it over and over, quietly expressing disbelief. Those folks were probably in their 40s and 50s then... l can try to imagine how they felt...sentenced to this system of things?

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JW Expanded Volunteer Activities?

by doinmypart in

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i think the gb needs to expand publishers' volunteer activities beyond door knocking.. gb has shifted away from door-knocking to more varied forms of witnessing and no longer counting time for publishers.

my prediction is that the gb will start encouraging jws to participate in broader community volunteer efforts: clean-up drives, food banks, senior citizen support, and other non-proselytizing activities.

this move could help them gain goodwill with government agencies and the public.. expanding volunteer activities could significantly shift how jws are perceived by the wider community.

Halcon

I remember when I left JW mentally, one of the first things I wanted my family and I to do was volunteer at food banks and animal shelters. And that I wasn't going to care if JWs judged me. That seems so strange that I'd be judged for something like that.

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The coup against Tony Morris in order to make major changes?

by Badfish in

it’s been a long time since i’ve kept up with anything jw-related.

but just a couple days ago, i heard about all the new changes—beards, shunning, etc.

i was surprised, so i asked an old friend who i hadn’t spoken to in ages what happened.

Halcon

Tony's excursions to the local ABC stores really were 'heaven sent', IF the rest of the GB was looking for a way to oust him.

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June 2024 WT: Don't talk about Anthony Morris

by neat blue dog in

the latest study edition mentions hypothetical scenarios of jws who are no longer serving at bethel or no longer elders, etc.

and says we shouldn't speculate, as defaming them could border on slander.. we could unintentionally defame someone by spreading negative information.

..... would it be proper to speculate on the reasons why these adjustments were made and to share that opinion with others?.

Halcon

If we base it on recent patterns, we may be about to see a number of governing body members get unloaded.

Perhaps more likely, it could be that JW is about to do away with circuit overseers or even doing away with a body of elders. Have just one 'pastor' per congregation, just like mainstream church.