Ex Mormons and Ex JW's both look at each other's religions a little wistfully sometimes and neither seem to understand the differences that make comparisons difficult.
The grass is always greener I suppose.....
Posts by TD
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16LDS statistics, by extension, may suggest that the JWs could be bigger with a more engaged membership.
by joe134cd ini was just watching this on you tube, about the growth of the lds church.
i think these numbers may support a number of theories that have been discussed on here.
(1) the jws are bigger as a religious organisation.. (2) jw membership is more engaged, as well as, more ethnically diverse.. (3) wt is been honest with its counting.
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Jehovah's Witnesses Started By Christiandom
by mrquik ina little background first.
my first father- in-law, levi peterson was born in 1889. he personally knew rutherford.
he started the newark, ny congregation.
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Russell plagiarized his belief in 1914 from John Aquila Brown, a Seventh Day Adventist.
Brown died 20 years before the Seventh Day Adventists were founded and the 1914 date actually came from Barbour.
He was however one of the first known expositors to claim that the 7 times of Nebuchadnezzer were a 2520 year prophetic period.
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Who is considered more bizarre?
by incognito2014 injws or mormons.
from a public point of view not from people within the religion as that would be obvious.. examples of extreme beliefs or behaviour would be useful..
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Nothing with caffeine.
Nothing with alcohol
Also pretty sure the DoC speaks negatively of corn. (Wheat for the man and corn for the ox...)
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Who is considered more bizarre?
by incognito2014 injws or mormons.
from a public point of view not from people within the religion as that would be obvious.. examples of extreme beliefs or behaviour would be useful..
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TD
Anyway - I always understood it was magic spectacles and not a hat, but the hat seem to be the focus and underpants!.
I believe it was what they call a "Seer stone."
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/seer-stones?lang=eng
The person puts the stone in a hat or a large bowl and then puts their face in it, (Think Harry Potter and the Pensieve...)
The stone then allegedly reveals to the practitioner the location of lost objects, buried treasure, yada, yada, yada.
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Who is considered more bizarre?
by incognito2014 injws or mormons.
from a public point of view not from people within the religion as that would be obvious.. examples of extreme beliefs or behaviour would be useful..
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TD
Depends on how well you know the two groups. Mormons appear more mainstream from a distance, but they are every bit as odd as the JWs
The belief in ancient American civilizations rivaling Greece or Rome at the height of their power is a good example.
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EVERY Religion has Hypocrites- even the TRUE One!
by MuchCloserLook inso, if you expect to find 'saints' with halos, you will never find real christians.. after over 30 years of being a jw, there are many things about the org that disturb me- yet no one else even acknowledges the only true god, as jesus referred to him.. not a 'they' or 'them' ('trinity')- but him!and he has always had the name jehovah (yehovah in hebrew)- even though the koine greek had no version of it when the nt was written.. so among the many things real christians have to endure- is often each other!
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Koine Greek had no version of God's Name- until later.
Just a minor clarification that hopefully does not detract from your point.
Foreign names are adopted into new languages via simple phonetic transliteration.
In other words, Greek speakers would have simply repeated what they heard Hebrew speakers saying in a manner not unlike an English speaker saying "Vladimir Putin" when he hears "Владимир Путин" or "Xi Jinping" when he hears "习近平"
So it's really not a question of whether Ancient Greek had a version of the name. It's a question of whether Greek speakers ever heard it spoken
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Need help. Please and thank you.
by lastmanstanding ini have a trove of old watchtower literature.
i know of course, and for example, to keep the three first volumes of the watchtower (bound) and a bunch of other items.
(and i handle them delicately.).
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I guess it really depends on the genre you're interested in
Failed predictions?
Quack medicine?
Bad science?
Environmental alarmism?
Political views?
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The irony of 2 Tim 3:16-17
by pseudoxristos inall scripture is inspired of god and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, that the man of god may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.. most scholars don't think paul wrote 2 timothy.. every time i here a witness quote this verse, i will be reminded of the irony.. -undisputed-.
1 thessalonians.
galatians.
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The only scriptures were the OLD TESTAMENT..
To echo what Half banana said above:
Why not The Book of Jubilees? Or The Assumption of Moses, which is a likely source for Jude 1:9?
How about The Book of Enoch or the Book of Jasher or The Epistle to the Laodiceans or The Life of Adam and Eve, or The Martyrdom of Isaiah or Paul's original letter to the Corinthians. (Referenced in 1 Corinthians)
The point is that we have no way of knowing what writings the early Christians considered authoritative. All the writings I mentioned above are either quoted or referenced in what we call the New Testament today.
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I think Limbaugh is out and out wrong on this
by JimmyYoung ini listen to rush most days for entertainment.
i agree with him on some issues and disagree on others.
but today he said something i believe is an out and out lie.
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If we’re still talking about the OP question - Rush isn’t wrong on that
I'm wondering if you actually listened to what Limbaugh said.
He claimed that the flu shot was not not a vaccine
It most certainly is a vaccine. (You do understand what the term, quadrivalent means right???)
And he is also right on the flu vaccine, we don’t know what the next strain of the flu will look like so we just kind of guess using last 6 months worth of flu strains.
Correct, but Limbaugh didn't say that. His misunderstanding of this fact was his rationale for claiming it wasn't a vaccine.
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Remember the Revelation book?
by wozza ini recall when it was released ,that's when i was a drone, how excited i felt at the prospect of reading it and formulating ways to sell it at the homes in my area.. i thought, finally a book to explain the last book in the bible and indeed one that the churches seemed to want to leave alone!.
i sold quite a few probably because of my enthusiasm and can still remember clearly the first day when i went knocking on doors with it ,and it's been decades since.. but over time it lost it's shine and my mind started to question the explanations in it due to the scene of other things being changed in the jw beliefs.. do you remember they flogged that book so many times in the book studies even when it was found to have "newer light " eclipsing it!.
who else remembers the printed pages with the official corrections to insert into the book ,so many that the book collapsed to be of no relevance anymore really.....what an embarrassment!.
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Maybe if you overlook the fact that Babylon was a city-state and the difference between Babylonians and Persians is debatable..