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  Have you ever been on a congregation picnic?

  by LostintheFog1999 in

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  were you ever on a congregation picnic?

  i was on several occasions.. the arrangements were often announced from the platform after the closing song and prayer by the last elder up on the platform.. sometimes it was included in the service meeting announcements as "on saturday we're meeting at 10.00am at the kingdom hall for field service, and after field service for anyone who wishes, especially for the younger ones, we will be having a congregation picnic meeting at the beach carpark on seaview road.".

  well, according to the new elders manual you won't be hearing those words again.

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  When I was much, much younger there was a picnic and usually a softball game every Sunday evening after the meeting.

  Very different era
  
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  Viruses Killed The Woolly Mammoths.

  by LostintheFog1999 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i can remember the original turquoise coloured evolution book produced by the organisation and the numerous public talks around it.

  mind-blowing to a gullible youngster growing up in a jw family.. the flood of noah's day when thousands of tons of suspended water fell from the atmosphere and on hitting the cold poles instantly plunged the woolly mammoths into a deep freeze, to the extent that the last mouthful of grass was still there in the mouth in mid-chomp.

  you can quickly see why a kid with a fertile imagination was transfixed by those apparently up-to-date scientific discoveries as presented by the wt org!.

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  The "frozen animals" studied by Вектор include the woolly mammoth, woolly rhino and several others.

  The inference seems to be that the presence of the virus means the animal in question died from it.
  
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  Viruses Killed The Woolly Mammoths.

  by LostintheFog1999 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i can remember the original turquoise coloured evolution book produced by the organisation and the numerous public talks around it.

  mind-blowing to a gullible youngster growing up in a jw family.. the flood of noah's day when thousands of tons of suspended water fell from the atmosphere and on hitting the cold poles instantly plunged the woolly mammoths into a deep freeze, to the extent that the last mouthful of grass was still there in the mouth in mid-chomp.

  you can quickly see why a kid with a fertile imagination was transfixed by those apparently up-to-date scientific discoveries as presented by the wt org!.

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  The last paper I read blamed extinction on a scarcity of vegetation during the glacial-interglacial transition.
  
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  Clever Misdirection

  by TD in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was looking at the (mostly) wrong answers to a riddle that's making the rounds on social media and thought it was a good example of how something simple (in this case, grade school math) can be distorted with words.

  the riddle goes like this:.

  i bought a cow for $800.. i sold it for $1000.

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  The second one I didn’t try to get to terms with, seems more tricky.
  

  If the manager had said, "Okay. The three customers ended up paying $9 each. You have $2 and I have $25" it wouldn't be any fun at all.
  

  
  
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  drinking wine in the Kingdom

  by enoughisenough in

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  something jumped out at me that i never paid attention to while reading further into matt 26...in vs 28, he tells them his blood is to be poured out for the many for forgiveness of sin.

  but note vs 29 but i say to you: i will no menas drink again any of this product of the vine until that day when i drink it new with you in the kingdom of my father.

  cross reference luke 22:18 for i tell you , from now on, i will not drink again from the product of the vine until the kingdom of god comes.. what is the point of all of this: matt 26:29 " i drink it new with you " mark 14:25 " drink new in the kingdom of god.

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  Wine has never been considered Chametz.

  --Not trying to be argumentative. I'm just a guy who lives in a climate comparable to Palestine, who grows grapes and makes half-way decent wine sometimes.
  

  It takes pasteurization, glass bottles, and refrigeration (After the bottle is opened) to prevent fermentation. Otherwise, the window for unfermented grape juice is pretty narrow.
  
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  drinking wine in the Kingdom

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
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  something jumped out at me that i never paid attention to while reading further into matt 26...in vs 28, he tells them his blood is to be poured out for the many for forgiveness of sin.

  but note vs 29 but i say to you: i will no menas drink again any of this product of the vine until that day when i drink it new with you in the kingdom of my father.

  cross reference luke 22:18 for i tell you , from now on, i will not drink again from the product of the vine until the kingdom of god comes.. what is the point of all of this: matt 26:29 " i drink it new with you " mark 14:25 " drink new in the kingdom of god.

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  The JW's are correct in pointing out that Passover in Palestine is 6 to 7 months after the grape harvest in a climate comparable to Tucson, Arizona.

  The SDA's might not approve of wine, but it tastes a helluva lot better than vinegar
  
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  Password Leakage?

  by Nikolaus in

  1. forum
  2. tech-support

  i got a message that my password on this site has been part of a leakage.

  is this known?

  where can i change my password?.

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  What sort of a message? Did it originate from a legitimate source, (Like Google's password manager, for example) or was it a random pop-up?
  
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  Andrew Tate on the news

  by slimboyfat in

  1. social
  2. current

  i hadn’t heard of this guy, andrew tate, until a few days ago, when he was mentioned on novara media (which is practically the only news i watch).

  then i saw a clip with him where he explained why he moved to romania: he said he ‘likes romania because the police are corrupt and you can pay them off’.

  (practically a direct quote) i thought to myself at the time that sounded a bit complacent!

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  The exchange between Tate and Greta Thunberg (On Twitter) where he posted the picture with the Jerry's Pizza box in view was priceless. Especially her response: "This is what happens when you don't recycle"
  
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  Clever Misdirection

  by TD in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was looking at the (mostly) wrong answers to a riddle that's making the rounds on social media and thought it was a good example of how something simple (in this case, grade school math) can be distorted with words.

  the riddle goes like this:.

  i bought a cow for $800.. i sold it for $1000.

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  Good answers

  Both riddles attempt to trick the reader into committing an accounting error.

  Here's an actual example (From Facebook) of how the "I bought a cow" riddle does that:

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  First, the riddle says I bought a cow for $800. Thereafter I sold it for $1000. So I make $1000-$800 = $200.

  Now the 3rd statement says I bought it again for $1100. Here if you see, I have bought the same cow again for $1100. So I had a loss of $100 as previously the cow was sold for $1000 and bought again at $1100.

  Next statement of the riddle says I sold it again for $1300. So now I have made $1300-$1100=$200 in this transaction.

  So I made $200 – $100 + $200 = $300.

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  The problem with the explanation above is that the $1100 figure has been subtracted twice, which in this case, results in a $100 error.

  On an actual balance sheet, you would have Sales of $2300 and Expenses of $1900, giving a bottom line of +$400

  The misdirection in the second riddle is entirely in the last line, where the manager adds the $2 to the $27 to arrive at a completely meaningless figure.

  $30 was collected, of which $3 was given as change and $2 was kept as a tip leaving $25 as the actual cost of the meal. The order in which the $3 and $2 are subtracted doesn't matter as long as they're both subtracted.
  

  The point here is that even the simplest of things can be obfuscated. Math cuts through bullshit like a machete, but misdirection takes many other forms.
  

  
  
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  I don't get it.

  by LostintheFog1999 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am a historian and the period of english history from henry vii to elizabeth i is my specialist area.. i was talking to an ex-jw about the time when tyndale first translated the bible into english with his intention that everyone from the ploughboy upwards would be able to read and understand the scriptures.

  it dawned on us both that this was a significant point in english history.. just having access to the bible in hi their own language allowed the common man to understand what god wanted him to understand.. it was and is, so simple.. why then oh why then do jehovah's witnesses think that they need a fds to explain it to them?

  when in the 1600s just having a bible written in english was enough for people to understand the word of god?.

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  Because there's more to religion than moral lessons and ancient history

  Nearly all religions (Not just the JW's) invoke a claim to authority that doesn't automatically follow from a plain reading of the Bible