Posts by tdogg

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'Lost' redux

by Rex B13 in

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being lost...is of course, the usual state of things here.

what's surprising is that they (the lost) think that pulling scriptures out of context, isolating mosaic laws mean't for one purpose and one time, is somehow refuting scripture.. they like to ignore the fact that jesus is the revealed yahweh and he sets the mark, not any organisation nor any pious individual.

we relate scripture to him and we interpret scripture by his life amongst mankind.

tdogg

Rex you are entitled to your beliefs and I try to keep and open mind and learn from what people post here. But I would have to agree with Larc that there is a "strong undercurrent of hate" in your words. Everything you say has a venomous tone to it.

Your rebuttal: "Nope, that is completely unbiblical." So then you apparantly are completely biblical. Your posts do not come out of love as one who would call himself a "follower of Christ", instead you appear belligerant and spiteful. This in itself would be okay except that you do it as a spokesman for Christ, the Prince of Peace.

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"GET THE WBTS OUT OF THE UN" Pickets

by MadApostate in

since it has been several years since i attended an assembly/convention, i don't know if some of you folks are still picketing such, .

the upcoming special assembly this sunday would seem to be a great opportunity to spread this un issue to the jw r&f.. can't you just hear the "buzz" in the hallways:.

"why are the apostates holding signs saying, 'get the wbts out of the un'"?.

tdogg

You may be correct. But after having read the responses on this site from some JW's already, you can see what their mind set is. Most will take the postiion that the society is not "really in the UN" and that they are just registered in it.
In my JW days I would have looked dubiously upon any pickiting. And I know that some will question, but the effectivness will be determined by who they turn to for answers. I am intersted to see the WTBS spin on this though I know it will be convincing for most of the R and F. You know that when they admit the Un thing there will be a convincing reason that they did it and will probably be set up very well with forthcoming articles. Hey they got out of the 1975 thing right?

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Update from Bethel....

by LDH in

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just received word from my parents who were visiting with a bethelite [8>] couple over the week end (circuit assembly).. my dad's on the defensive because i have begun to tell him exactly what i think og the wbts.. anyhow he wanted to let me know, per this couple, the jw are housing firefighters and even feeding them!

my response?

"good.

tdogg

My wife's aunt is in NY. She works near the Empire ST. building and has been a volunteer since the disaster. She has lately been at the armory and the mayors command center. I think I will ask her if she can confirm any of this 'relief aid'.

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"GET THE WBTS OUT OF THE UN" Pickets

by MadApostate in

since it has been several years since i attended an assembly/convention, i don't know if some of you folks are still picketing such, .

the upcoming special assembly this sunday would seem to be a great opportunity to spread this un issue to the jw r&f.. can't you just hear the "buzz" in the hallways:.

"why are the apostates holding signs saying, 'get the wbts out of the un'"?.

tdogg

I doubt the effectiveness of picketing. You would only be seen as fanatical, Satan inspired persecuters intent on spreading lies to the people of God. There may be a possibility however of raising a question in the minds of some who are new to the faith and not quite indoctrinated beyond reason. This could go either way though because when the new person would ask his teacher it would give them an opportunity to provide the JW answer as well as a demonstration of how Satan's forces are prevelent and active, even right outside the convention.

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JW Response to NGO/UN info

by Andrew Farrell in

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following is the response of a jw to the information regarding the un/ngo status of the watchtower society.

it seems not all will see with clarity the hypocritical position of the organisation in this matter:.

andrew,.

tdogg

I think you will have to concede the argument that the society is registered with the UN to protect the interests of the preaching activity. That being said you can then point out the fact that the society is actually seeking protection with the UN, the very organization they condemn. Then it would follow that God is not able to, or willing to provide such protction so that the society had to seek protection from the Great Harlot. One may initially close themeselves off to this argument but I guarantee this will linger in their skull for a long time.
Just remember how many little doubts it took for most of us to accumulate before we could finally see the light.

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So, who REALLY were/are the "Nephilim"?

by AGuest in

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may you all have peace!.

once again, i have received a 'writing' on my heart, which i am directed to share with any and all who will 'receive' it.. for many years, the wtbts and others have taught the "nephilim" to be the offspring of angels who had relations with the daughters of men, half-breed beings that wreaked havoc in a violent way in the earth during the days of noah, just prior to the flood.

that, dear ones... is an error... and a lie.. by the spirit of my father, the holy one of israel, jah of armies, that is in me by means of christ, i say to you that the "nephilim"... are spirit creatures, ancient beings... 'of old'... princes from the spirit realm, the 'wicked spirit forces'... that came to the earth to 'fell' earthling man in the days of noah.. these being are those that i saw standing to the left of my father's throne, shrouded in darkness, and 'egging' on the 'battle' between to the two brilliant cherubs on the ark, the 'arkangels', which i related to you previously on h20.

tdogg

Wait..hold on a minute...Im having a revelation too!! Hmmmmmm, Ommmmm, Ahmmmmmm, ....ooh. Nope sorry, false alarm it was just gas.

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Exercise--Is It For Christians?

by comment in

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excerpted from a future issue of the watchtower:.

in modern times, great emphasis has been laid upon diet and exercise, particularly in western lands.

people are often impressed by the physiques of athletes and movie stars presented in the media.

tdogg

This is a bitter subject for me so I can only crack a tiny smile at this.

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Is God a SF giants fan?

by Stealth in

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did anyone else notice barry bonds of the san francisco giants thanking god after he hit home run number 67?.

could god have been to preoccupied with bonds breaking mark mcguires home run record to answer the prayers of thousands who perished in the wtc?

tdogg

The bengals winning two games in a row is certainly a miracle. The mormons here in Utah would have to disagree on which college God favors and they'll tell you so.

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Demonized Wall Paper!

by D wiltshire in

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years ago i studied with a couple, that told me of an elder that studied with them years before.. they were having marital discord at the time and this elder was famous for finding demon posessed objects.. so this elder while conducting his study and talking about their marital problems asked them if perhaps they may have inadvertently brought home a demon posessed object, and that this was the cause of their domestic problems.. well they went through their whole apartment with this elder to see if they could find anything, but were unsucessfull.

finally when in the kitchen the elder said he felt strange and that something in the kitchen must be causing it, they looked and looked but nothing.. but when the elder touched the walls of the kitchen, he felt the presents of something there on the walls that could be the causing of their problems.

so they dung into the wall of the kitchen and found that it was painted over a couple layers of old wall paper.. guess what was one of the pictures they found on one of the layers of wall paper?.

tdogg

Totally believable. I knew a simmilar elder who had a brother pitch his "demonized" furniture off the landing in his second floor apartment.

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I NEED ADVICE DESPERATELY!!!

by concerned fiance in

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here is my situation: my fiance is now 27 years old.

he was raised as a jw from the age of 2 through 18. at that time, his whole family left the "truth" except for his older brother who had already married another woman from the faith.

for the past 9 years, he has been living his life to the fullest, but still loving god, praying often and he is a truly honest and moral person.

tdogg

I think you are on the right track. Let him research these things now, before he goes back and will no longer be able to look. The freemind website has helped me look honestly at many issues. If you both are really in love, it will be worth going through this. At least you will find out how strong your relationship is.