Posts by terafera

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Is homosexuality wrong?

by forgetmenot in

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i know that the dub's view is that it is totally wrong.

i live in an area where the majority of people think it is wrong.

i don't think it is wrong (but i am not a homosexual).

I watched that show you are talking about. I could tell it was protrayed in a certain light. You have to understand, you are watching a show that was written, produced and directed by a certain group with an agenda.

You are talking about the Matthew Shephard case. I noticed that while this was a horrible tragedy, they portray many in the town as ignorant, hicks. The ones pro-gay are spoken to with nice music in the background...in front of a college (as if to say they are educated), nice lighting.

The ones against homosexuality are interviewed in dingy areas, garages, run down homes, the music is dark and scary....

You have to keep your mind open and not be led by the director's view. I personally like to watch things that are 'neutral'. Just the facts and thats it. I like making up my own mind and not having a pro-agenda group sway me with sneaky tactics.

Again, that case was horrendous. But it paints over the homosexual lifestyle as innocent, which I think is not always the case. I think everyone should be able to have their own beliefs without fear of being harrassed, either for or against an issue.

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Is homosexuality wrong?

by forgetmenot in

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i know that the dub's view is that it is totally wrong.

i live in an area where the majority of people think it is wrong.

i don't think it is wrong (but i am not a homosexual).

terafera

A short question but needs a longggg answer!! I dont even wanna get into this one ...

BTW, while I dont feel it is our job to judge, we can make informed asessments in life. I feel homosexuality ecompasses more than just same sex partners. There are other aspects which includes morality, life style, emotional/physical/mental health issues.....

it is very indepth and complicated.

So I cannot give a short answer!

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Quickest memorial invite ever

by ashitaka in

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wifey's dad: hi, it's dad, how are things going?.

wife: ok. wifey's dad: is (his son) on his way home yet?.

wife: yeah, he left about twenty minutes ago.. {indiscriminate small talk, about one minute worth}.

terafera

Ashi, you and D8TA made some great points. I was never disfellowshipped, nor was I baptized yet I am shunned by everyone that is a Witness. It used to hurt..but I accept it now. I never spoke out against jw's or the belief system, but they figured I wasnt a witness, so I wasnt worth the time to talk to. One sister even said about me," she's over 18 and not baptized, so you better give up on her. All hope is lost." Doesnt sound like something Jesus would say does it?

I feel for your family and wife, Ashi. My family still talks to me, but my sister has told me it is only because I was never baptized, and if I had been, she would not talk to me. I thank God I didnt get baptized, because of this. She also said I could not visit my nephews or neices in my own home. God, I wouldnt do anything wrong with them...maybe teach them some manners, LOL.

Good post and topic.

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Count the F's

by sleepy in

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i want you to read his qickly count all the f's and give your answers.

no recounting allowed ok!.

finished files are the result of years of scientific study combined with the experience of years.

terafera

I counted 6.

What do I win?

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The "one-Scripture" Rule

by LDH in

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so much of jw belief is based on just one or two scriptures, while they ignore the thrust of true christianity!

here are some examples:.

1. the faithful and discreet slave--mentioned once in the bible.

terafera

Hi DB!

Very good points you make! Thats what I've always thought...the talk about not making a big deal out of a person, but like you say, I've heard of extremely lavish parties for people leaving for Bethel, graduating, etc. Whats the difference if its a small gathering for cake and celebrating another year of life? Very true...

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How do you feel when this happens?

by kenpodragon in

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i was heading to work today and i ran across a man holding a bible, not a witness.

he tried to start preaching to me, but i was moving away and not responding.

he kept talking and asking questions.

terafera

Well I opened my store and left him outside. I was working and getting things done, when suddenly he walked into my store and told me
God told him I needed to pray with him. I told him I did not see anyone talking to him. Well he said God talks to him inside, to which I told
him, "that is a mental disease and he needs help, I am not going to do something just because a voice in his head told him too." I have to
admit, I was laughing when I said that. Well he asked me if I believe in Jesus, to which I said "no" and he starts acting like he is going to
faint. I told him to get out the Oscars will judge him.

LOL I laughed at that.... sounds like you handled it just right! I never thought about it at the time, but I guess we looked like that...even though I wouldve never chased someone down. I was usually too embarrassed to open my mouth! [8>]

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Jehovahs spirit on decision to disfellowship

by chezza in

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hi all i was thinking about this the other day and how the elders say that they have gods direction when they have judicial meetings, if that is the case and gods spirit is directing their decision then why do they have the allowance for an appeal, after all if god is supposed to be directing them there would be no mistake in the decision right?

any thoughts people?

terafera

I dont know about you...but uh, anyone here have problems "DISTINGUISHING" diverse
ethnic people? Do you use this secret system of facial hair???

Thanks, D8TA, for letting me spew water all over my screen laughing!! My son thinks I'm crazy (well crazier than I am), and my neighbors are probably wondering why I'm screaming! LOL

Thanks for the laugh! That was too funny...

god, if I were in that room when he said it, I wouldve busted out laughing so hard.

This reminds me....

Once I was being talked to in an elders meeting by 2 very nice elders and the sister who studied with me. They were all trying to get me to see the point of getting baptized, and soon (the July assembly was coming up). So the sister, who is very fragile and cries easily, starts crying saying how her kids never went into the Truth. The elders turn their attention on her and she is bawling like a baby. I start to see the absurdness of the whole damn thing and start laughing hysterically. I couldnt stop...I just kept laughing, so hard I was crying and about to pee myself. Well the elders look at me crazily and the sister says she heard people under stress laugh to not show their emotions. They nod and say, 'oh' like they understand. I was really laughing because it was hilarious being around such loonies LOL.
Ahh...

Memories!

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Jehovahs spirit on decision to disfellowship

by chezza in

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hi all i was thinking about this the other day and how the elders say that they have gods direction when they have judicial meetings, if that is the case and gods spirit is directing their decision then why do they have the allowance for an appeal, after all if god is supposed to be directing them there would be no mistake in the decision right?

any thoughts people?

terafera

I think the reason behind the
"appeal" addition is that it "sounds" good when you're getting the axe, and that in
"democratic" countries, it lends a feeling of fairness to the issue. Just window dressing and
show, like the WTS Public Relations website........lies and innuendo.

Very true!!
I was never baptized, but the elders got wind of a false rumor about me. My mother who visciously lied about me, told stories that she 'thought' were true, but knew fully well they werent. Anyway, the elders told me I would be announced as unapproved association. They told me I could appeal it, and I did. I wrote a letter about how they had no proof, no witnesses, and the elder involved had personal agendas against me. I asked if only I could have another elder handle my case, then I would gladly accept any decision they made.

They never even considered it. They said 'No, we're not going to give you the appeal. The elder would think the way we did anyway." and announced me. I never felt it was handled fairly at all...but I get the sense that they were trying to look like they were fair and just.

HA!

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When I called Patterson yesterday.....

by LDH in

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i made a three way call, i had a family member on the other line.

i had told this person about the wtbs/un thing to which they stated, "bullshit.

i first called headquarters, they put me through to patterson.

terafera

Hi Grunt, nice to meet you!

Your post made me sad..its painfully obvious how much you love your parents and how you would do anything for them. How I wish they would open their minds a little more....or their hearts. Its so hard to..

I wish the best for you. I'm sorry about your daughter too. How are you holding up?

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When I called Patterson yesterday.....

by LDH in

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i made a three way call, i had a family member on the other line.

i had told this person about the wtbs/un thing to which they stated, "bullshit.

i first called headquarters, they put me through to patterson.

terafera

I borrowed these from quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com, thought they fit the situation and how jw's believe:

*** w57 5/1 284 Trust Your Proved, Faithful Brothers ***

We will realize that Jehovah knows what is going on in his organization, and
if he is willing to permit it, who are we to insist it should be different? If we
really have faith, we will know that if it is wrong he will straighten it out
eventually, and we are far safer inside his organization even with these minor
difficulties than we would be on the outside where only chaos and
destruction await us.

*** w83 1/15 27 Armed for the Fight Against Wicked Spirits ***

Fight Against Independent Thinking

... Yet there are some who point out that the organization has had to make
adjustments before, and so they argue: "This shows that we have to make up
our own mind on what to believe." This is independent thinking. Why is
it so dangerous? 20 Such thinking is an evidence of pride.

~~~~~

So really it shows how these people respond this way..they are being fed this constantly. I know myself, when I asked my mother if it might not be the Truth, she said that even if it wasnt, it protected us and did no harm. I dont really agree with that statement, in full.