Posts by scratchme1010

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I am getting disfellowshipped

by CitizenofEarth in

maybe some of you remember me, maybe not.

for general information i am now 19 years old, and living by myself.

for the past 1 year (more like 1.5 years) i have been quietly fading out of the hypocrisy of this organization, but since i still live in the town i grew up in it has been hard, and filled with different challenges.

scratchme1010

Do you have any suggestions for points i could bring forth under the judicial meeting. I know i will get disfellowshipped, but i wont go silent out, and i plan to record it for my family to hear. If i could bring up some valid points i could make show some willing souls what really goes on in there.

Keep in mind that:

The power that they claim to have is made up. They have absolutely no power and no authority over you.
They are not there to help you; they are not your friends. They are there to solve their problem of having you around. They cannot care less about you.
Think about your own self when you were 100% convinced that you were in the truth, and that there wasn't anyone who could tell you otherwise. Would you have listened to what you'd like to tell them now, then?

That said, I'd also like you to know that different people approach JCs differently, depending on their circumstances and the kind of relationship that they want/have to maintain with their local congregation. Some people don't want to be shunned by loved ones and prefer to play their game because it's in their best interest. Others ignore, others gives them the finger, and others like me, put a show to get a cheap thrill out of seeing them hearing what they want to hear.

It's up to you, please acknowledge your own unique experience and relationship with that organization. I strongly suggest you to consider your own unique situation. As much as they try to convince us that we are sheep, we are in fact, human beings.

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Brotherly love in action..

by Jrjw in

i'm so upset and angry at the same time.

i move in less than 2 weeks and was supposed to be getting help off "brothers" to move and one of them was driving the van and now the elders have had a meeting and told the brothers they can't help coz i'm separated from my (abusive) jw husband and with moving it puts the chances of reconciliation (of which there was zero chance) even further away.

where are these stupid rules that they come up with.

scratchme1010

I'm so sorry. See it as a great opportunity to start looking for real friends, and for people who can provide you with unconditional support. Trust me, a lot of s know pretty well about that shit they put you through.

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Shoud individuals be held responsible for their INACTION?

by nicolaou in

jw
friends

if you see someone about to be struck by a car or otherwise step into harms way but choose not to call out a warning or act in some way to prevent disaster, are you responsible for any harm caused?.

what defence, if any, can be offered for choosing inaction?

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scratchme1010

Forget the law for now, I'm going for the morality of the question.
Imagine a hypothetical situation where saving a life requires almost no effort from you and presents you with no personal risk.
If you fail to act should you be held morally responsible for any harm or fatalities?

I don't do "what if" scenarios. They are completely useless.

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They have nowhere else to go!

by Crazyguy in

i think the overwhelming problem with trying to wake up friends and family is they have nowhere else to go.

i mean these people all their friends are jws a lot of them their family is jws.

if they wake up or agree with you in anyway they know instantly that they loose all this, many will even loose jobs.

scratchme1010

Crazy guy, you are absolutely right IN SOME CASES. I was a born in, and it took me a little longer to figure out what would be a safe next step for me to take.

As I have shared many times, the WT not only teaches people how they should behave and be, and what decisions to take, and what/how to think, and not to trust their "independent way of thinking". Part of their brainwashing includes make them believe that if they leave, there's absolutely no other place to be, no people you can trust, and what awaits us is a horrible fate.

Some believe that crap, some find proof of it by perception, and some, like me, see through the nonsense and venture life on their own.

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Were visits to the library an important part of your childhood?

by compound complex in

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friends

greetings, fellow bibliophiles:.

i remember how sad i was, as a little child, when our beloved carnegie library was razed (unsafe, structurally).

the same tragedy occurred when we moved to a new town and that similar architectural treasure was demolished to put up a new and gleaming building of steel and glass.

scratchme1010

In my case was more about lack of access and my parents' lower literacy level, which influenced their decisions around giving us access to additional resources. I was in a mediocre public school system that didn't promote any kind of additional extracurricular activities, and librarians who couldn't be more lazy and careless about actually doing their jobs.

The JW angle was only one of many in my case.

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Shoud individuals be held responsible for their INACTION?

by nicolaou in

jw
friends

if you see someone about to be struck by a car or otherwise step into harms way but choose not to call out a warning or act in some way to prevent disaster, are you responsible for any harm caused?.

what defence, if any, can be offered for choosing inaction?

.

scratchme1010

If you see someone about to be struck by a car or otherwise step into harms way but choose not to call out a warning or act in some way to prevent disaster, are you responsible for any harm caused?

Legally, no, unless I am in a place where I am bound to do that as per their policy, best practices, or legally, such as a hospital.

What defence, if any, can be offered for choosing inaction?

That the person in the accident was Kellyanne Conway.

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Creepy, creepy movie "Wanda Nevada"

by James Mixon in

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friends

wanda nevada (brooke shields) a 13 year old girl and a man 30 some years old (peter fonda) not only expressing their love for each other, but forming a relationship and end up running away together, yes a little creepy.

couldn't sleep last night so around 4 o'clock it was on....the movie made in 1979 what the hell was hollywood thinking when making this movie, a love story romance/westerns......

scratchme1010

Pull your head out people.

No pun intended?

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Calendar of Jehovah's Witnesses

by Downtowner in

i was with my mom today shopping and she is still in the organization.

she is elderly so she doesn't do as much as she used to.

we went to the store and she purchased a calendar and on the way out she said that she finally got a calendar for this year.

scratchme1010

Definitely not the same organization as it was at the end of the 20th century.

Yes, but it's their same stupid decision making process, which is not based on innovation. Personally I don't miss anything and can't care less about what they do or change, but I feel for those elderly JWs that are going through so many changes. They have to feel uncomfortable.

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How the Governing Body breaks people

by krismalone in

we all have likely heard the expression "to break a person" and usually it's in relation to kidnappers, bullies, pimps, human traffickers and cult leaders.. when a person is broken, their spirit, goals, aspirations, pursuits, self esteem, critical thinking and dreams are taken away.

what fills that vacuum is despair, depression, low self esteem, lack of self confidence and individuality.

the victim now believes that they are not worthy of enjoying life and following their dreams and personal satisfaction through personal achievements.

scratchme1010

I think that people's experiences are different, and people's reactions are different. I don't feel "broken", but I was traumatized by some things, being a born-in.

I have seen people who have been devastated and have attempted suicide after sessions with the elders. What I think the WT does is nothing about people's mental health, and their practices trigger and precipitate people who have issues that they can't handle.

They are extremely irresponsible when it comes to the well being of their people. They just don't care. Some people end up broken because of it.

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My wife and I just had a wonderful experience today.

by smiddy3 in

my wife was looking through some old diary`s that we have lying around and found a ph.# of an old friend (jw) that we knew over 15 years ago .we were always curious as to what has happened to her as she was a dear friend for many years when we were in the "truth".

so she rings the number (,do you still have the same # that you had 15 yrs ago ?

) and this friend was a bit of a "gypsy" type so she wasn`t expecting much when she rang.. to cut a long story short we all had a good conversation we had been trying to find out about her all these years with no success and she was also trying to find out about us all these years with no success ,we had moved interstate.. nothing was said about religion though i suspect she is still associated with the borg.

scratchme1010

My wife and I just had a wonderful experience today.

First thing that came to mind was some impure thought.

Both my wife and I are very happy that this dialogue took place today and look forward to cementing this relationship again.

If she was a little loose when it came to the strict rules of the JWs, it makes sense that she misses you and wants to reconnect. That is wonderful. She's a much better person that he rest of the congregation.