Here's hoping he makes it out okay.
ThatSucks
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Amazing Survived Major Heart Attack
by AlanF ini just spoke on the phone to amazing (jim whitney) who is in intensive care in a chicago hospital.
on monday he had a major heart attack, had a stint put in an artery to unblock things and may have bypass surgery.
he's comfortable enough right now, but of course will have to make some big lifestyle changes.
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Dateline Discussed On JW Board - 3 Pages
by AngryXJW in.
http://www.jwzone.org/forums/showthread.php?s=ff95e0568f3b2969aed83e9623e3aad6&threadid=4555&perpage=25&pagenumber=1.
several "neat" quotables!!
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ThatSucks
It's simple SYN.
You said it yourself. Mind control. Thaty don't/can't think about it.
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Dateline and Perspective
by non_trias_theos intwo people can behold the same situation and conclude totally different things from their observations.
the pharisees saw jesus performing miracles and thought that he was empowered by beelzebub.
others watched the same thaumaturgic wonders and praised jesus as the son of god.
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ThatSucks
::: non: Your argument does not apply to non. Non does not use this line of reasoning. God could be triune even though the word does not appear in the bible. The concept might appear. But it does not and so God is not--trias.
:: suck: Actually, it does. Since to a catholic, the concept of a holy trinity does indeed appear, and is therefore supported in scripture, a catholic could use the very words that 'non' has muttered, in a slightly modified form of course, to essentially say what 'non' has said. Which is, absolutely nothing of consequence.
: non: A catholic can say whatever she wants to say. It dont mean it is so. Non believes that the concept of trinity does not appear in the bible. He does not use the line of reasoning with catholics that you accused him of. You were just wrong about that.
Actualy non does indeed use the same line of reasoning, because non believes that an organization is as clearly demonstrated in the scriptures as a catholic believes that a holy trinity is demonstrated in the scriptures. Therefore you both make the same mistake because neither a trinity nor an organization is clearly defined in scripture.
: non: Trinity concept not appear in bible. It is just like that.
Organization concept not appear in bible anymore than a holy trinity. It is just like that.
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Dateline NBC available as a QuickTime download...
by peterstride ini was able to digitize, and compress the entire dateline nbc show into the smallest file i could manage.
the sound is ok, the picture so so....but you'll get the full impact of the show.. the only program that i have that can send files is icq, so if you don't have icq, just go over to www.download.com, put icq in the search, install the latest version, get yourself a new icq number...and then add my number to your contact list.. my number is 161294253...or alternatively, you can find me under my e-mail address of [email protected].
cheers,.
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ThatSucks
uh...
Since dateline won't make video tapes for copyright reasons, aren't you guys, like... doing something possibly less than acceptible by authorities. ???
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Lies in the Dateline Show
by TheMatrix infirst lie: erica.
i dont believe erica lied about her abuse.
obviously it must be true, even mr. beliz confessed that he touched her inappropriately.
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ThatSucks
The artist formerly known as Dunscott, who is currently using the userid known as non_trias_theos said:
:: Whatz the matter? You do not like people to express themselves freely?
No. Sucks admits his fallible humanity at this point, Sucks would say that he doesn't mind anyone else expressing themselves freely, but when it comes to the artist formerly known as Dunscott currently using the userid known as non_trias_theos, he would prefer that he cease posting for Sucks is becoming quite nauseated and feels he should be able to read this discussion board without vomiting.
Now please afkadutunon, go apologize to someone who cares, for Suck's sake.
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Lies in the Dateline Show
by TheMatrix infirst lie: erica.
i dont believe erica lied about her abuse.
obviously it must be true, even mr. beliz confessed that he touched her inappropriately.
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ThatSucks
Dunnscott, will you please tell non to shut his trap and notify Greg in writing.
Thank you.
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One Question JWs Should Ask Themselves
by Eutapro indo i want to be like the ex-jws on this board?
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ThatSucks
It's funny how the artist formerly known as Dunsscott now using the userid non_trias_theos is so quick to the keyboard whenever someone like hawkaw takes a potshot at the pedo WT policy. Notice how he once again says absolutely nothing, since most members of this board already know that some ex-jw's would support 'such a policy' and (perhaps) plenty of witnesses that do not support 'such a policy'. The problem is, the witnesses who do not support 'such a policy' aren't going to do anything but sit by and let the witnesses who do support 'such a policy' go to town on innocent children, because 'such a policy' prevents the former from being stopped. Hence the plenty of jws who 'detest and abhor' pdophilia's lack of a will to fight what they detest, and wait on God to straighten it out.
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Lies in the Dateline Show
by TheMatrix infirst lie: erica.
i dont believe erica lied about her abuse.
obviously it must be true, even mr. beliz confessed that he touched her inappropriately.
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ThatSucks
TheMatrix said:
:: Third lie: Mr. Bowens
Mr. Bowens tells the reporter that the Organization is a “Pedophile Paradise”, even the reporter questions this by saying “Oh come on, a paradise?”. Mr. Bowens answers, and here is the key, he says “In my heart I believe that it is a Pedophile Paradise”. So there we have it, there is no proof, it is only in his heart that he believes this absurdity.
The next time a news magazine airs a story, you might want to pay more attention. Mr. BOWEN said that he belived in his heart that it was a pedo paradise, and we heard no further comment from him in this regard because THE REST OF THE SHOW GAVE THE EVIDENCE OF WHY HE CONSIDERS IT TO BE A PEDOPHILE PARADISE.
Jeez! Do you people not pay attention in school? Should they have given you a magazine and made you underline the !@#$ answers before you could get it?
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DATELINE: BLACK ART OF PROPAGANDA
by You Know inhardly anyone has an honest opinion about anything of importance that wasnt craftily pre-packaged and handed to them by someone else whose job it is to craft public opinion.
the intention of the media is to present the illusion of impartially informing, all the while pandering to prejudice and ignorance in order to persuade to a particular point of view.
datelines presentation of the watchtowers child abuse issue was a case study in the black art of media propaganda.. from the very beginning of the presentation dateline was intent on giving the public a negative impression of jehovahs witnesses by portraying us all as oddball crackpots whose religion revolves around the doctrine that we dont celebrate birthdays and that all non-believers are possessed by the devil and that we want them all to die.
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ThatSucks
You Know (how to cloud issues):
You are so full of ca-ray-yup. Your second sentence betrays you:
:: He is the one who hid the fact that he was secretly recording a conversation that the trusting brother would naturally assume was between two elders.
You are just pissed that the dirty laundry was aired. So your musings about dateline hiding anything are moot. You act like dateline gives a rat's ass about discrediting witnesses. All dateline cared about was reporting on a story that was from Bowen's point of view.
And your spewage about underhanded journalism is stupid and biased, because when dateline reports about pedohilia in the catholic church, you praise their efforts at getting to the bottom of things.
Why don't you take your axe and grind it up 'You Know' where.
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Dateline and Perspective
by non_trias_theos intwo people can behold the same situation and conclude totally different things from their observations.
the pharisees saw jesus performing miracles and thought that he was empowered by beelzebub.
others watched the same thaumaturgic wonders and praised jesus as the son of god.
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ThatSucks
JT (who I am glad to see back) said:
:: When the wt was asked to share thier side of the story , they said NO WAY, THEN they sent a 16mm movie film that they made in the basement in place of stepping up to the mike and on a whole scene and clearly state thier view
I've got to admit that it is very clever to let the show air and not make any comments. The leaders are then free to pick the show apart and systematically form a rebuttal and feed it to the rank and file and general public to cover the damage done.