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  Pomo because of Proclaimers book, 1995 generation change and Daniel prophecy book

  by Gorb in

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  have some time thinking about my recent and less recent personal history because of the summer holiday.. the 90's crossed my mind.

  the years i became pimo.

  a friend, a room mate during the 1993 moscow international convention, went to university.

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  Great sharing all these story's. Thanks!!!

  Gorby
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  Pomo because of Proclaimers book, 1995 generation change and Daniel prophecy book

  by Gorb in

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  have some time thinking about my recent and less recent personal history because of the summer holiday.. the 90's crossed my mind.

  the years i became pimo.

  a friend, a room mate during the 1993 moscow international convention, went to university.

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  Same for me. It took some years to become PoMo for me and for my wife. We moved to another city and became submarine witness first and later fuly PoMo.

  Got a management position, and the corporation I work for gave me 2 University educations, so with aditional education had a study periode of 10 years.

  And before you know it, you are a 30 years furter at the scale of time.

  Better then ever and saved our children for watchtower abuse, our goal. So, after 4th generation our family has done away the sect influence.

  Gorby
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  Pomo because of Proclaimers book, 1995 generation change and Daniel prophecy book

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
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  have some time thinking about my recent and less recent personal history because of the summer holiday.. the 90's crossed my mind.

  the years i became pimo.

  a friend, a room mate during the 1993 moscow international convention, went to university.

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  They introduced it with the words "some witness thought..."

  That line was the end of my loyality to them.

  Gorby
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  Pomo because of Proclaimers book, 1995 generation change and Daniel prophecy book

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
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  have some time thinking about my recent and less recent personal history because of the summer holiday.. the 90's crossed my mind.

  the years i became pimo.

  a friend, a room mate during the 1993 moscow international convention, went to university.

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  @slimboy the revelation book was studied when I just was baptized (4th generation), and became MS a few weeks later.

  I can remember I was not a fan of the book.

  My thinking proces started because of the 1995 generation change in combination with coming out of age with JW friends that went to University.

  The best nights, with discussion and thinking theories. I was scared like hell because of this proces. It was all worth it.

  Could write a book about it.

  The 1995 generation change made a hugh impact because my father tried to convince every householder of the 1914 docrine, 607 and the 2520 years. I was brought up with this docrine. And then, in 1995, the Watchtower wrote that some witness thought that this was the case.

  Gorby
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  League of Nations as the disgusting thing that causes desolation

  by xaminewt in

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  2. bible

  so, the organization says the “disgusting thing that causes desolation” in daniel 11:31 is the united nations being set up in 1945, but in daniel 12:11 when they interpret the 1,290 days they say it’s the league of nations in 1919. please could someone play devils advocate and tell why this could be anything but inconsistent?

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  Al this years and numbers are meaningless to me.

  Watchtower doctrines.

  Gorby
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  Pomo because of Proclaimers book, 1995 generation change and Daniel prophecy book

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  have some time thinking about my recent and less recent personal history because of the summer holiday.. the 90's crossed my mind.

  the years i became pimo.

  a friend, a room mate during the 1993 moscow international convention, went to university.

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  Gorb

  Have some time thinking about my recent and less recent personal history because of the summer holiday.

  The 90's crossed my mind. The years I became PIMO. How?

  A friend, a room mate during the 1993 Moscow international convention, went to university. We discussed during long evenings and nights with wine and CoC by Raymund Franz. We were both MS and there was a 3th brother, with no status who was realy a free thinker. I'm thankfull, they learned me think.

  Because of the started thinking process, a hard time started. The 1995 generation change and the finger pointing of the society to blame the rank and file. This 4th generation JW lost the ground of staying loyal.

  Then the Proclaimers book gave a rare look inside of all the early jw scandals of Russell and Rutherford. WH Conley became the 1st watchtower president instead of Russell. The United Investment Corporation was Russells other base of income. Rutherford was a pain in the ass. Grilled the German bethel official for saving the jw.org property from the Nazi's. Played the german anthem at the Berlin convention. Wrote the declaration of facts and accussed the Jews in a letter to the Reichsfuhrer. The Olin Moyle trial. The 10 persons at his funeral, not his wife and son.

  Then the Daniel prophecy fineshed my believe in jw.org doctrine. It was al undocumented fantasy, made up to throw sand in the eyes of the rank and file. The revelation book, the Assisi religion leader gethering, the UN scandal, the Aid Afrique subcorporation of jw.org, the selling of the Brooklyn property to Kustner including a interview online between Yared and the JW president.

  Reading all this events, how much does a JW need to say goodby to it all.

  My wife became just like me POMO and we saved our children for a jw upbringing with all the dangers of abuse.

  We feel better then ever!!!

  Gorby
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  Sad observation

  by Gorb in

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  reading about jw.org rules changes these days gives me a sad observation.. everything what "is" today, can be gone tomorrow.. that makes it all worthless.

  you were an elder, searching for evidence, and proof to df a person.

  because he or she was not humble enough.

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  Reading about jw.org rules changes these days gives me a sad observation.

  Everything what "is" today, can be gone tomorrow.

  That makes it all worthless.

  You were an elder, searching for evidence, and proof to DF a person. Because he or she was not humble enough. No second change given.

  Because you thought you know what was right for the organization.

  And now, it became all worthless with the DF policy change.

  How can you life with your self, elder, with all the hurt you created. All the emotion, the pain and maybe suicide attempts.

  How can this settled without cleaning the elder / co / do and further leadership?

  The backbone is rotten.

  Gorby
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  New reinstated family member

  by Jayk in

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  a 1st cousin(a) of mine just called me about one of my great aunts(b) getting reinstated.

  (b) has been disfellowship for as long as i can remember.

  (a) has always stood on the fence with his beliefs.

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  I think it is most wise to accept people choices in life.
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  How many JW in the 1920's

  by xaminewt in

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  2. bible

  i'm trying to find out how many jw there were globally in 1924, 1925, 1926, 1927 and 1928. the watchtower of 1926 says that there were 25,000 in attendance at the magdeburg convention for the public address, but the same watchtower say that one the last day of the convention there were 15,000 present, so i assume at least 10,000 were interested persons - non jw.

  the watchtower 1955 says: "for this year of 1927 the number in attendance at the spring memorial internationally was 88,544, yet of these only some 18,602 were active as house-to-house kingdom announcers".

  these statistics would seem to imply that the majority of jw in 1926 were at the magdeburg convention.

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  Big part of the early JW population were white elderly people.

  G.
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  Olympic games/ jw.org keep on the watch

  by Gorb in

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  the main article on jw.org is about the succesfull olympic games 2024 in paris.. many withness watch all the sport episodes of the games, but jw.org comes with a sour story about the games and not reaching real peace.. again jw.org is on the wrong side of history a d doesn't feel the public anx jw opinion.

  the closing remarks of the ioc president bach, thaf the games will not reach peace but plant peace in the hart of people was a strong message.. the organization and message of the games is all that jw.org wants to, but can't.. very sad and narrow minded, as ever.

  gorby.

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  The main article on jw.org is about the succesfull olympic games 2024 in Paris.

  Many withness watch all the sport episodes of the games, but jw.org comes with a sour story about the games and not reaching real peace.

  Again jw.org is on the wrong side of history a d doesn't feel the public anx jw opinion.

  The closing remarks of the IOC president Bach, thaf the games will not reach peace but plant peace in the hart of people was a strong message.

  The organization and message of the games is all that jw.org wants to, but can't.

  Very sad and narrow minded, as ever.

  Gorby