Shocking and sad how Andersons and other can believe such nonsense and how they even spread it as "truth".
Most shockingly stupid nonsense letter I ever read, and respect for Andersons just fell some 98 % ...........
TheOldHippie
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Read a story of child neglect and abuse among JWs in S. Africa that was sent to me.
by AndersonsInfo ini regard the information below as true until proven false because of corresponding with a young man in s. africa for a few years whose story i posted on my website: http://www.watchtowerdocuments.com/stories/caleb.html, "freedom from an unsafe haven, by caleb.
" although some of the accounts of abuse of children in s. africa in the story below are older, calab wrote me details of abusive treatment meted out to young people in his area that he chose not to put in his story for fear he could be identified.
calab in now in university in another part of africa and very happy after breaking the chains that engulfed his mind.. barbara.
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Did anything significant happen in 1934?
by Paralipomenon inlooking at the 607/587 bce issue, i was wondering if the bethel could spin some new light to avoid embarassment and buy themselves an extra 25 years or so.. if it was 1935, they could claim that the call to close the doors to heaven was actually the real date of jesus' invisible reign and tie up two embarassments with one flash of light.. best i could find though, nothing really important happended then.
anyone else with better jw historical records think of an "out" for them?.
once 2014 comes, they are in for a major explanation.
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TheOldHippie
The rather well-known German guy with the moustache and strange hand movement started his actions ...........................
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Watchtower Growth by CONTINENT and other Statistical Gems
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TheOldHippie
"What becomes apparent is a strong negative trend for the Watchtower, as converting Bible Studies into publishers is dropping rapidly. In the early 1970’s, 0.8 Studies and 200 hours resulted in a growth rate around 10%. In the early 1990’s Studies had increased to 1.0 and hours to 220, but the growth rate had fallen to 7%. In the late 2000’s, 1.0 Study and 220 hours only converts to fewer than 3% growth."
Two things make this difficult to analyze: Firstly, that one does not have to be baptised to be a publisher, and therefore many studies start publishing, drop out, may start again, drop out, and so it is extremely difficult to compare baptisms-publishers-growth. One of the biggest branch offices a few years ago stated that 3/4 of the publishers in that country were baptised. Secondly, you would have to find out the age composition of the publishers. In areas with little growth, one would expect an increasing average age and therefore an increasing death rate or increasing rate of publishers ceasing to be publishers because of health/disability reasons. In areas with a bigger growth, average age would decrease and the death rate decrease - but then again drop outs would be not because of age but because of leaving. Continents have huge differences within themselves, too. Africa, as mentioned, with a Moslem North and a Christian centre/South - Europe with a wealthy and predominantly Protestant West/North and a poor and Orthodox East and a in the middle and Catholic South - Asia with Buddhism and Hinduism and Shintoism and China, and therefore with widely different views on life and fate - USA with its different cultures as to Caucasian/Latin/Black cultures etc.
The more one looks at figures like these, the more difficult it is making a meaningfull statement.
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CO visit. New light
by 2tone inif you want to skip to the new light or understanding, its underlined for you pleasure.
i think some will find this interesting.
we had the co tonight.
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TheOldHippie
What he meant "obviously" would have to be that they appoint them. The branches give them their districts.
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CO visit. New light
by 2tone inif you want to skip to the new light or understanding, its underlined for you pleasure.
i think some will find this interesting.
we had the co tonight.
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TheOldHippie
This is not exactly a tape recording from a talk, is it? And this is not exactly the copy of a manuscript, is it? This is what a critical person (and by all means, it is 100 % all right to be critical!) remembers from the talk a couple of hours after it was given. How 100 % focused was he? His mind did not wander off slightly just 1 % of the time? He managed to listen to every word and pin them down exactly as they were spoken afterwards?
How easy is it not to listen to a talk, to fill in a bit for oneself, to color it a bit more afterwards, to give oneself a reply to one's question about what he really said at that specific time in the talk when you did not 100 % get his meaning but filled it in with what your own critical mind figures he ought to have said if he were to live up to the idiocy which you in fact think the whole thing is - etc., etc.
ONE person's reference to a talk ought not be enough to have a hundred others start shaking the world. Some of it is old stuff - two crowns, well they've always said he started off with a victory and then rode off to fullfill his victory in Armageddon. GB representing the FDS is old stuff too. So a CO wishing to fresh up his talk meets mister critical mind - and ...... here we go.
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TheOldHippie
Printing such brochures is done as a rule here - and contrary to what you imply, "nothing happens". It is a common thing. And Barr was perhaps the last of his kind - and very gentle and mild.
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1984 WT Cover, one more arrow in our quiver
by FatFreek 2005 inwe certainly don't want to allow watchtower the luxury of forgetting.
for your private campaign, right click on the image and follow the menu item of your choice.
len miller.
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TheOldHippie
Sorry smiddy, not 42 generations are listed, but 41 (have a look and try to find who is double counted ...............)
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Disputation study on Ex Jehovah's Witnesses
by Aaac inthe first finnish disputation on ex jehovah's witnesses has been accepted at turku university.
20 ex jw's and the finnish watchtower spokesman were interviewed in this study.
here is the abstract in english.. .
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TheOldHippie
Why is it that so many sociological studies are written in a language so dull and uninteresting that one falls asleep in the middle of the first paragraph, or, if one manages to keep awake, totally forgets what is the object of the study? This summary to me bears the mark of a junior student who tries at all costs to use all the words and explanations he has learned, to desperately try to squeeze all facts and opinions uttered into the patterns etc that he has learned. It is written in such a manner that it looks like a joke.
I am in no way trying here to discuss the points made - I am just thinking of the way it is presented, which is in a way so as to frighten off any reader. Why not have a look at "Street Corner Society" and other classics? I have a BS in sociology and have worked in the field for years - and this summary was definitely not among the highlights of sociology .....................
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More Young People Are Leaving The Organization!
by minimus ini've heard that another 2 people have left the "truth" as soon as they could get out.
both girls were elder's daughters.
they aren't elders now because they were somewhat problem teens.
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TheOldHippie
"I've heard that another 2 people have left the "Truth" as soon as they could get out. both girls were elder's daughters. They aren't elders now because they were somewhat problem teens. Now, they're older and no longer JWs. This is a dying cult."
So one person hears that two people have left - and THAT constitutes proof final it is a dying organization? Dearest minimus, don't you think that is a tiny piece of jumping to conclusions based on a somewhat thin basis?
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Why on earth would WT use a FEMALE lawyer to defend it in Australia case?
by hamsterbait inhow many of us here find the use of a female to conduct the defence unusual?.
the wt religion is notoriously misogynistic.
anybody with a penis is preferable to do a non menial job.. why the change here?.
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TheOldHippie
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