the watchtower seems to have lost track of one of their favorite endtime players - the king of.
how could they let such an important component of their prophecies vanish.. .
growing up in the 50's and 60's i fully believed the watchtowers scheme for interpreting daniel.. and it was quite believable back then.
Just a small addition: There is in the literature and in talks mentioned the possibility that Russia or forces within Russia as it is stated, will appear as the infamous King, so the Russian connection has not been completely shelved. (And the Putin-Orthodox connection is a mean one.)
But as you state, all the way down to the end of the 1980s, it fit oh! so well.
i know gayle has already started a thread on the latest november 15th watchtower article that mentions the article on donations, but i thought a thread with a more specific title might be in order just to drive the point home for any lurkers.
i hope gayle doesn't mind!.
i've been banging the drum for a while now about what i view as the obvious signs that the watchtower is in a state of decline.. i have written the following blog articles on the subject.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/branch-closures-and-fire-sales-a-growing-trend-for-the-society.
There are two brochures,
i know a very young brother that got married in june of this year.
they are now divorced that fast.
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Some are more easily shocked than others ..................
i went to the last day of the dc here in west palm beach, just to make my mother company.
wow, what a difference can a year outside the lie can do to perception.
it was the same crap as you'd expect but there is a plot twist: the speaker was so into the talk he was actually starting to shout and wound up mentioning that they now know how many angels will be needed to destroy everyone at armaggeddon.
Not mentioned, must have been one speaker's own calculator.
dear randall.
good morning!.
here is the daniel of brazil (former bethel).. this week at the forum of former jehovah's witnesses had an interesting news!
"In addition, three members of the Branch of Brazil were invited to special training in the United States during the months of July and August 2012."
No reason to tie that up to the upcoming ZO visit. Branch members are regularly called in for training, there is a new Branch servant school. If Brasil has a high percentage of df/da, then that specific Brasilian problem will be discussed at the meeting, but don't expect anything global to come out of that. Different countries - different problems - different solutions. While much is centralized, much is also left for the different countries and different congregations. There is a balance between interference and no interference.
just wondering if anyone around here has managed to find any audio recordings of speeches or lectures given by pastor russel or joseph rutherford.. also would like to know if anyone has discovered any available recordings of "wbbr" which was formerly the radio station of jehovah's witnesses.. if you've found any mp3 format recordings please let me and readers of this thread know by posting available material.. thank you !.
i found a lecture titled "religion as a world remedy" by judge rutherford:.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqnfueadssu.
As for Rutherford, you could search at ebay.co.uk (or ebay.com) and you will find that almost all of his speeches as well as recordings have been made available on CDs - mp3 - and are for sale for very little money. When it comes to Russell, the Photo-Drama of Creation is likewise available on CD/DVD, and there are parts of it where Russell appears "live"; some of the Angelophone Records are also available, and on some of them, brief lectures by Russell were combined with the songs and hence available.
Just start searching and PayPal-ing!
dear randall.
good morning!.
here is the daniel of brazil (former bethel).. this week at the forum of former jehovah's witnesses had an interesting news!
Changes in or dropping door-to-door is no reason for a special meeting or course. It is stressed on a weekly basis that one should look for alternatives to d-t-d work as people are not at home etc. And changes in conventions or meetings or other organizational stuff is no reason for special meetings. I don't think this is anything but a normal course, but IF something special is to be discussed, then it HAS to be something "theological", some doctrinal change, as all other things are easily dealt with thru letters or talks and are unimportant as such. A pioneer school of one week's duration is to be held in December, likewise in January, so there are no signs of any revolution at the doorstep.
I wonder how many times I have read here that the CO arrangement is going to be dropped "next year" .............
andover townsman, andover, ma.
july 26, 2012. dalton column: lawsuit concerns one of town's most interesting yet forgotten.
bill dalton.
JW never released the New Jerusalem Bible. They released the Byington and the KJ versions. (Apart from a few other releases back around 1900.)
what power does "the european court of human rights" have in a case like this.
can they actually tell france what to do??
this is touted as the top story on http://www.jw-media.org/ and i am not sure if i am catching up on old news or not.
And if you look at the top left corner, you will see the date: July 5, 2012
what power does "the european court of human rights" have in a case like this.
can they actually tell france what to do??
this is touted as the top story on http://www.jw-media.org/ and i am not sure if i am catching up on old news or not.
To the question, Yes, the European Court of Human Rights have the right to decide and to tell member states what to do. The member states must comply. There is no "what if they don't?", they must. The Court is the highest appeal court for all European nations, and organizations and individuals can appeal to it. If the appeal is allowed by the Court to be treated, the result is binding.
The French case is not on taxes as such, as claimed by some here, but on taxes placed on gifts. The French state claimed a 60 per cent tax on all gifts given for a number of years, and it should be noted that the WTB&TS was the only organization from which such taxes were claimed, so it was a clear cut case of trying to liquidate an organization. Whatever one might feel about such an attempt, the Court has now nullified the attempt. Last year, it was nullified, and the WTB&TS and the French state were asked to come together and discuss how the state should free the mortgages it had placed upon WTB&TS property (closing of brach office, convention halls and some Kingdom halls). The state refused to discuss, though, and therefore the Court now ordered it to follow the Court's decisions.
