Posts by TheOldHippie

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GB and partaking

by Crazyguy in

i was told that before 2007 there were a couple of gb's that did not partake and that after the 2007 change now they all partake, is this true??

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i think the talks have changed during the last handfull of years. Whereas they a few years ago were boring in the sense that the larger part of them was about the fact that those present should NOT partake - more or less - then after the 1935 understanding change, they do not discuss that question THAT much any more. They say that the vast majority do not partake, that it is not likely that there are partakers present - but they do leave it more open to the ones present.

As they should. However, that again should not keep us from thinking what we like about some of the ones partaking. We have some more or less "special personalities", and only very few do not question their partaking. But then, that is their business. Must be strange, though, if they find themselves surviving right here on good old Mother Earth and not being caught up ...... Oooops! So I will have to live with my husband for all eternity, and I thought it would only be for a few years .....................

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David Splane in Calgary Alberta July 1st for special talk

by hoser in

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i heard from a reliable source that governing body member david splane will be giving a talk in calgary where all the flooding was last week.

TheOldHippie

He'll do his David and Goliath talk - you can find it on the net. It is a good talk, he is a good speaker.

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Interesting Genetic Research Published on Dog Evolution

by cantleave in

some interesting work has been published this month in nature and reported in various blogs and journals.

it is work that gives more evidence to support the fact of evolution.

a team of swedish scientists led by evolutionary geneticist erik axelsson from uppsala university have identified genetic changes that could have been responsible for the transformation of wild wolves, into the ancestors of our beloved pet dogs.

TheOldHippie

Wold to dog is not evolution, it is adaption, it is not macro-evolution, it is micro-evolution.

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Are individual Governing Body members humble?

by Londo111 in

when reading the watchtower publications, that seems hard to believe...especially now that the governing body has declared itself and itself alone the faithful and discreet slave (something that neither the apostles nor russell were), directly appointed in 1919 by christ, the unique channel of god upon who our salvation depends.

and such statements do not even scratch the surface of the arrogant and grandiose proclamations that are promulgated from the top down.. .

however, a few people who have met governing body members have said how kind and humble they were.

TheOldHippie

Quite the opposite - Stalin was a MAN, with all the shortcomings belonging to being one, but utterly human, whereas Hitler was a freak.

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"Who, then, is the faithful and wise servant...?" - NEW ARTICLE

by EdenOne in

just wanting to let you know that i've published a new article on my website.. it's called "who, then, is the faithful and wise servant...?".

given the recent controversy about the "new light" of the wts / jw's about the subject, i decided to look deeper into it and came up with a surprising (even for me) conclusion.. i hope you enjoy.. eden.

TheOldHippie

You wrote an article and the conclusion was a surprise to you? ...................................

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DC Drama stirs up drama of it's own!!!

by DATA-DOG in

remember the drama about persecution,suffering, that a modern-day job experiences?

the jw's under ban in a " landmark ruling", our faithful brother conversing with job in the new world, it' all too wonderful!

especially job wearing pants and a tunic style shirt!

TheOldHippie

"I have it on good authority from someone who is directly involved with the dramas"

Yeah, sure .........................

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United Nations General Assembly Report on Objection to Military Service by Jehovah's Witnesses and others | June 3, 2013

by jwleaks in

jw leaks has published the june 3, 2013, united nations general assembly analytical report on conscientious objection to military service.. page 3, paragraph 4, of the report states:.

"the following non-governmental organizations responded: the associazione comunita papa giovanni xxiii, the centre for civil and political rights, the european bureau for conscientious objection, the european organisation of military associations, forum 18 news service, the german institute for human rights, human rights watch, the international fellowship of reconciliation, jehovahs witnesses, the quaker united nations office, the russian ngo soldiers mothers of st. petersburg, the union of conscientious objectors, and war resisters international.".

this 17 page report deals substantially with jehovah's witnesses.. .

TheOldHippie

Following that logic - if someone hurts you or does you wrong, should you then NOT turn to the judicial system, but solely rely on God to help you and in due time take revenge on the wrong-doer?

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United Nations General Assembly Report on Objection to Military Service by Jehovah's Witnesses and others | June 3, 2013

by jwleaks in

jw leaks has published the june 3, 2013, united nations general assembly analytical report on conscientious objection to military service.. page 3, paragraph 4, of the report states:.

"the following non-governmental organizations responded: the associazione comunita papa giovanni xxiii, the centre for civil and political rights, the european bureau for conscientious objection, the european organisation of military associations, forum 18 news service, the german institute for human rights, human rights watch, the international fellowship of reconciliation, jehovahs witnesses, the quaker united nations office, the russian ngo soldiers mothers of st. petersburg, the union of conscientious objectors, and war resisters international.".

this 17 page report deals substantially with jehovah's witnesses.. .

TheOldHippie

They are not referred to as a NGO, it says that " The following non-governmental organizations responded: the Associazione Comunita Papa Giovanni XXIII, the Centre for Civil and Political Rights, the European Bureau for Conscientious Objection, the European Organisation of Military Associations, Forum 18 News Service, the German Institute for Human Rights, Human Rights Watch, the International Fellowship of Reconciliation, Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Quaker United Nations Office, the Russian NGO Soldiers’ Mothers of St. Petersburg, the Union of Conscientious Objectors, and War Resisters International."

There are no capital letters in the phrase "non-governmental organizations", so they are just that - organizations outside of the government, non-official. But if you see the Russian NGO Soldiers' Mothers of St. Petersburg" they are careful to use the capital letters there in identifying the group as a "real" NGO.

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DATING THE BOOK OF REVELATION - new article

by EdenOne in

just published another article on my website.

i promised i would make a more complete study on dating the book of revelation.

as a result i published the article: dating revelation - solely with internal evidence from the new testament.

TheOldHippie

" John would have been released from Patmos in 68 AD (or shortly thereafter) and the time when he received this revelation and wrote it down would have been prior to 70 AD. John himself mentions in the book that he was at Patmos, when he received this revelation. Given the commentary of Paul about a distinguished disciple receiving visions of heavens and secret revelations in the year 41 CE, and assuming that disciple was John, then the visions of John began even before he was exiled to Patmos"

The two parts I have underlined, says it all to me. If one assumes things and states things would have happened - then all is possible ,,,,,,,,

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Mistranslated Scriptures

by Crazyguy in

i'm looking for help with a list of scriptures that the jw's mistranslated.

i'm thinking this may help to wake some one up.

i can think of rev 1:9 rev.5:10 and in luke were they changed the wording to say covenant from appoint or bestow, but that all i know so far.

TheOldHippie

But the question is not THAT easy, is it? If you say that something is a false translation or mistranslated - then compared to what? Or to which translation? Can we say that a translation is wrong, just because it differs from an older translation? Just because a translation - as a whole or of a certain passage - is old and/or widely used, it does not have to mean it is correct. For each and every NWT verse some would choose to call a false translation, one could just as easily point to other verses in other versions or translations and call THEM false translations. There is a huge difference between a translation which is different from how the verse is translated by other versions of the Bible, but where the transalation is within the realms of what is possible - and a translation where grammar rules and word meanings seem to have been deliberately broken or changed to force the verse to state what your pet opinion wishes it to state. John 1:1 is no example of the latter, and neither are 90 % of the so-called examples of falsely translated verses in the NWT. I think you should start by reading Jason BeDuhn's Truth in Translation.

We do not speak KJV English any more. Languages change. New manuscripts are found. Our knowledge about the world 2,000 years ago increase. If you do not speak NT Greek yourself, you really are in no position to utter an opinion on the matter, because you then have to rely on what experts say, and you have to "pick your experts", choose between them. As long as you do not master NT Greek yourself, all you have is hearsay.