Posts by TheOldHippie

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Update today on Candace Conti vs Watchtower case

by Watchtower-Free in

http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.

TheOldHippie

What does this mean:

letter dated 11/18/13 from Joseph Herrera requesting denial of Watchtower appeal

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credit to vidqun for the direction given.. the watchtower november 15th qfr http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20141115/ blows the selection process/timing/individuals clean out of the water!.

simply put, ask any witness these questions:.

who is represented by the 'two witnesses' in revelation chapter 7?

TheOldHippie

I was under the impression that the beast of ch. 11 is Satan's worldwide political system - and that is the one which kills the two wotnesses - whereas the beast of ch. 17 is the image of the beast, i.e. UN. I've got to check it out.

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Revelation, its Grand Climax.... remember when?

by wallsofjericho in

i remember being at the assembly in 1988?

when this was released.

everyone was so excited that we finally had a simple explanation of revelation with pictures.

TheOldHippie

I think the Revelation book is a light year ahead of Isaiah I and II though .............................

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Jehovah's Witnesses child abuse and judical comittees, YLE TV1 News 11/1/2014

by tunnistaja.ee in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnoslbdatzc.

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TheOldHippie

The Northern European branches are very sensitive to what the public is told thru newspapers, television etc., and normally rather quickly respond both thru information to the congregations and thru articles/letters/interviews in the media.

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Watchtower Library On CD . . . ?

by SnarlingRaven in

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can anyone please direct me to a download of the watchtower library on cd?.

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matty.

TheOldHippie

ALL Library CD's have gone back to 1950 when it comes to th WT. None of the older stuff has been deleted.

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What really woke me up: I started noticing most JWS are weirdos..

by kneehighmiah in

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thankfully my parents are converts so they aren't wierd.

seemed pretty popular by all accounts.

they are "popular" jws even now.

TheOldHippie

"When I was about 14-15 I realized that I was already smarter than most of the r/f in the congregation," .

Yeah, sure. ALL 14-15 years old idiots believe they are smarter than the rest of the world. Super-egos believing they are outsmarting all others.

You have to show up with CONSIDERABLE weightier arguments than that one.

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The person(s) who does the monthly JW broadcast on JWTV.

by Space Madness in

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is the guy who does the october 2014 jw broadcasting the same person who does the november 2014?.

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TheOldHippie

No.

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JWs - A View From Outside

by Joe Grundy in

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i never was a jw (i make this point in - almost - every post) but having been brought up ('raised' for our us cousins) in a non-conformist fundy sect with 'rapture' aspirations, it wasn't that different.. i still have extended family members in it, or in that mindset, but we rarely discuss religion.

in particular, my sister and bil lost their son (my nephew) some years ago when he was just 13. their comfort is that he is in a 'better place' and i don't want to challenge that to them.. i keep up with all things jw here in this forum and maintain my academic interest and these are just my thoughts as an outsider, for what they are worth.. ime, those people who have heard of jws tend to lump them in with mormons and other crazies and have no knowledge or interest in them - other than to warn neighbours when they are about.. where i live should be prime 'witnessing' territory but they rarely come round, even in the recent leafletting campaign.

they are not as effective as the people who regularly call with the latest menus from the local curry/chinese/kebab houses.. on the occasions when jws have called, despite invitations to come in and have a cup of tea, etc., none has ever wanted to engage in conversation, far less progress to an invitation to a kh meeting or start a bible study (and i always present myself as an 'imterested householder').. my conversations with people in general and friends in the real world lead me to conclude that few people have heard of jws, those that have regard them as a minor irrevelant nuisance and that there is no interest in their message or beliefs.. a few months ago i did a 'drive-past' of the million pound seafront property in bangor, north wales that wt recently bought for use as a 'translation office' (ha ha!).

TheOldHippie

Crazyguy's thoughts were mentioned by a CO in a talk. And he said that if JWs were running an advertising business, they would have been fired, 'cause people don't know anything about them.

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Lowering the standards: The sign of a cult struggling for survival

by Hidden-Window in

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many of the recent changes in the jehovah's witness organization are a clear sign of a cult that is struggling for survival.

the internet has change the scenario in a very dramatic way.

many of us who for years struggled alone with doubts and cognitive dissonance thinking that we were the only ones, that we, as individuals were the issue, now know that there is a large community of individuals who see the organization as what it is, a mind controlling cult that is not only false, but also dangerous.. the governing body clearly understands the consequences of this awakening.

TheOldHippie

the laughable 30-hour auxiliary pioneer service, the 15-minute of service reporting,

I don't think these two things have anything to do with the other points, where I fully see your point. The 15 minutes thing has to do with aged and sick people and is not a lowering of standards, just a way of making them feel part of it all. The 30 hours thing is limited to three months a year and also falls within the same group as the 15 minutes thing.

Where the lowering applies, is to the magazines and brochures. Illustrations, fewer pages, broader margins, ball points, very simplified points. And it applies to the disappearance of the nicest meeting of them all, the book study.

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WT recent public news release showing emergency support for MEMBERS only.....

by EndofMysteries in

under news alerts on the borg website, i noticed 2 stories, 1 about the bus crash in honduras, and it's interesting that it seems that non jw agencies have helped out when you see this statement...."we appreciate the outpouring of support from the community and the various agencies that have come to the aid of those affected by this tragedy.

so on this instance, it seems the wt welcomes aid from outside sources.

now the 2nd story, is about the hurricane in mexico, and we have this statement...."in the aftermath of hurricane odile, which hit the coast of baja california sur on monday, september 15, 2014, jehovahs witnesses from the surrounding area provided food, water, and medicine to their members affected by the storm.

TheOldHippie

A couple of days ago, there was unanimous support on this board that the news of the accident would NEVER be published on jw.org. Oh, that was so utterly wrong, so terrible.

Now the news HAS been published, but oh, that was so utterly wrong, so terrible, because of wrong wording, and focus is in an instant moved to who gives support to whom etc.

So it's the same old story - whatever they do, it's wrong.