Posts by think41self

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new Poster--Finding out I'm Adopted

by WhatNow in

i'm a "long time listener", "first time caller".

i've been eavesdropping on this site for a couple of months now, trying to detach from my beliefs engrained in me for forty years (since birth).

i've finally got the time and the ambition to share my story with you all, since you've so gratiously shared your story with me (electronically).. i'm a 4th generation jw, or perhaps i should say "i was a ..." (old habits die hard).

think41self

WhatNow,

Yes, you are my new friend!

And it appears many others here are accepting you as such. Isn't it wonderful?

And your comment about finding our "special purpose"! ROFLMFAO

That has been a favorite family joke of ours since that movie came out. But since I already know what to do with "that" special purpose, I agree that we do need to find another means of finding fulfillment and satisfaction. There are many, many ways. Art, music, literature, volunteering to help an organization with a worthy cause, etc....

I also have no relationship with my mother, or any other family members except my sister....and my life has never been better.

Take care, look forward to hearing more from you.

Tracy

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Song parody: The Brady Bunch

by Seeker in

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friends

[ok, i figured out a way to do it.].

here's the story of a man named russell.

who was cooking up some very odd teachings.

think41self

Seeker!

ROFLMAO

For this one you deserve a nice tummy rub, and maybe a brushing of your fur afterwards.

think41self

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Newcomer - Old hand retiring from JW's

by Celtic in

hello to onen hag oll (one and all).. my name is mark from the westcountry of the british isles, kernow (cornwall) to be precise, very, very rugged and magical celtic country full of myth, legends and ancient magic.. i was brought up within the borgy bogie balderdash, 3rd generation, father, wt overseer and local and regional assembly, convention organiser.

my parents are still both in as well as my older sister and her family.

i was disfellowshipped in april 1995 for anger and swearing.. the journey since has been a tour of magic and mystery, in search of healing and self-belief and empowerment enabling.. i work in community regeneration issues, especially social exclusion and am a full member of independent uk government 'think tank' the community action network (can) www.can-online.org.uk.

think41self

Mark,

Mischievious, moi? (batting eyelashes innocently at you)

"To all things positive and happy farting". You are twisted man, verrrrrry twisted. I like it!

"Bottoms up"? Nahhhh, won't touch that one.

Tracy

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new Poster--Finding out I'm Adopted

by WhatNow in

i'm a "long time listener", "first time caller".

i've been eavesdropping on this site for a couple of months now, trying to detach from my beliefs engrained in me for forty years (since birth).

i've finally got the time and the ambition to share my story with you all, since you've so gratiously shared your story with me (electronically).. i'm a 4th generation jw, or perhaps i should say "i was a ..." (old habits die hard).

think41self

WhatNow

Thank you so much for sharing your story with us. Yes, I agree that in principle many of our stories sound similar, but then again they are all unique. The way you told yours, and the thoughts and feelings you experienced were told very eloquently. You have my heart felt sympathies for the agonies you have suffered. But, my new friend, good news! You are now on the road to recovery.

Keep reading and posting on the board. Keep searching for answers yourself. Don't be afraid to look at anything and reason on it with your own mind. That is the greatest freedom, and something no one will ever take away from you again!

As for your son who still wants to go, I totally understand that. When you are a teenager, you desperately want to believe you have all the answers, and faith can help you cope with life's stresses. Help your son find the answers himself and support him in his seeking, even if it takes him back to the hall(for awhile). My boys were 12 and 13 when I was df'd, and we had soooooo many deep and thought provoking discussions on our beliefs and actually reasoned on them! My kids now view it as a cult, as it rightly is, and feel empathy for the people imprisoned in it, most of their family, but would never go back to it.

I wish you well in your seeking for answers, with your children, and with your new love. You deserve to have all the happiness life has to offer. So go out there and enjoy it.

think41self

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I Got An Email From A "Brother"

by silentlambs in

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first email........ yes, don't be a silentlamb.

speak out when people are doing the.

molesting, not years later.. that is ridiculous for an adult to say that when they were a child, someone molested her/him.

think41self

SilentLambs,

You are truly a kind soul, to ask for help in reasoning with such a one. Anyone who would use the reasoning he has, that you shouldn't be alone with anyone's children but your own, that you need two or more witnesses to any complaints, that it is the adults who convince the child that they are traumatized.....OMG! I don't want to reason with him, I want to lock him up in a dark room for a month.

He sounds like he himself is in denial, as either a perpetrator, or a victim who doesn't want to admit anything bad happened. And his line of reasoning totally falls apart when it is the parent or other trusted family member who is the one doing the molesting! [8>]

I personally wouldn't waste my time on him. But then, you're a better man than I am.

think41self

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Convention Apostatizing Brings Gestapo Response

by outnfree in

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friends

my flyers merely said: if as a jehovahs witness, a member of your family has been molested information is available for further information see: www.silentlambs.org or call 1-877-wtabuse.. nothing overtly inflammatory, actually more like a public service announcement.. i guess thats what most of the local organizers and friends thought in my neck of the, woods for the first two days of the district convention!

but once the 'friends' realized that the website i was promoting with my flyers and moving car billboard was not an approved wt site, the powers that be got ... well ... pissed is the word!.

nobody bothered me on friday as i went smiling about my posting flyers on the light and utility poles on the routes to/from the convention site.

think41self

Outnfree

You go girl! I wanna be just like you when I grow up.

If even one person gets the point of what you were trying to do, it was worth it. And I agree with everyone, next time, video camera.

As for the "brothers" blocking your car, OMG, they should be glad you had your son with you, or I'm sure you could have thought of something. Talk about Gestapo techniques.

You did good, sweetie.

think41self

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Help! Help! My son wants to tell elders about me

by LostMyReligion in

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friends

i am floundering!.

today my jw son told me that he had seen an email in our family account written to me from an exjw.

it contained very little, but enough to let him know that i was in contact with outsiders about my doubts and feelings.

think41self

Hi Lost,

Boy, oh boy! You have my sympathies, talk about hitting below the belt!

I understand entirely what you are saying about being true to yourself, and therefore not wanting to tell your son that it was all a mistake, and you will never talk to those people again. Or, you could tell him how you really feel and live with the consequences. It is especially hard when you are hit with it unexpectedly and don't have time to mentally and emotionally prepare for it.

It seems the decision must be based on which one is harder for you right now: Telling your son the truth and living with him "telling the elders on you", or deciding that he should not have the power to decide that for you, and telling him whatever you want that would convince him you are not "going over to the other side". Both are difficult, and only you can decide which is more painful. But rest assured, your son will feel he is acting out of love for you by turning you in, so that the elders will have a chance to "save you". There is a good chance he will talk to them anyway, no matter what you tell him. That is what he is programmed to do. In which case, you will then have to "lie" to them also to avoid being df'd.

I personally would not have any problem whatsoever lying to those prying, nosy, ignorant men who are misguided in their diligence. But that is for you to decide. Good luck with it, whichever way you go, and let us know how it turns out, please.

think41self

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Newcomer - Old hand retiring from JW's

by Celtic in

hello to onen hag oll (one and all).. my name is mark from the westcountry of the british isles, kernow (cornwall) to be precise, very, very rugged and magical celtic country full of myth, legends and ancient magic.. i was brought up within the borgy bogie balderdash, 3rd generation, father, wt overseer and local and regional assembly, convention organiser.

my parents are still both in as well as my older sister and her family.

i was disfellowshipped in april 1995 for anger and swearing.. the journey since has been a tour of magic and mystery, in search of healing and self-belief and empowerment enabling.. i work in community regeneration issues, especially social exclusion and am a full member of independent uk government 'think tank' the community action network (can) www.can-online.org.uk.

think41self

Dear. Dear Celtic,

I can already tell you are going to fit in "mahvelously" around here, with that sense of humor.

I am glad that things are going well in your life now. The journey is grand, isn't it? And I'm always glad to meet another positive thinker,(we have all the fun, you know).

Think41self
aka Tracy, the disgustingly cheerful one!

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I'd like to tell you all my unique story...

by AngelofMuZiC in

my name is joanne, and i'm 19. my earliest memory is of the kingdom hall.

it all started when my mother, who is now 62, was walking down the street and some witnesses stopped her while they were street witnessing.

my mom had a really tough life, and was looking for answers and a solution to her problems.

think41self

Hi Joanne,

Thank you for sharing your painful experiences with us, and I too hope you stick around.

I will say I am glad that the Witnesses were somewhat helpful and kind to your mom. There are some very good and loving people in that religion, and their inner kindness was used for your benefit. It is too bad it didn't stay that way, but that is the way of control groups, you have to be a follower, not a thinker.

I hope you find understanding and acceptance here, as so many have
P.S. Angelofmuzic....from Phantom of the Opera? Loved that!

Think41self

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My Story******Short Version!

by think41self in

i was raised a poor white child in the deep south...ok, florida, where i still am.

i was the typical slightly self righteous witness, miss goody goody, left school at 16 to pioneer, which i did for 4 years, met a guy and married him.

he had 2 kids from a previous marriage and we had 2 kids of our own.

think41self

Hi Frank

I knew you were from the south....but Georgia?? Oh well, I guess you can't hold that against anyone.

Miami is an interesting place, it feels like you're in a third world country when you are there. If they cut up Florida and start moving it around, then all the Yanks might start coming to Georgia to retire, so you might want to re-think that one.

Nice to know you a little better, I enjoy reading your posts.

Tracy