Welcome Lawrence
I cannot even imagine what you have gone through. Thank you for posting here and sharing some of your story with us. It does empower others.
Tracy
good to see you online bud .
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=37734&page=2&site=3#511186.
wish it was in happier circumstances
Welcome Lawrence
I cannot even imagine what you have gone through. Thank you for posting here and sharing some of your story with us. It does empower others.
Tracy
before i confess to my rediculous weakness, i just want to assure everyone that i've been out for over 20 yrs - disfed for apostasy - that's true apostasy, as i stopped believing in god.
i (& hubby) were disfed in 1981. never met another apostate or read anything apostate when we left.
thought our way out unaided.
DannyBearalicious
I agree with you....yucky citron flavor! None of that in my recipe. I'll make it for you sometime.
Tracy of the once a southern belle class ahhhh to be young again.
the subject of dreams has been talked about frequently as part of the recovery process when something traumatic or life altering happens.. i just thought it might be of interest to share the path of my dreams over the last year, to those who may be going thru leaving the organization.. all my life i had the armeggedon dreams, but i was always safe.
when i left the borg, i still had the armeggedon dreams but this time i didnt make it.
and i was responsible for my family too.
Hey LyinEyes
Interesting post. I agree with you, we work through some of our feelings and strong emotions in our dreams, through our subconscious. And it can be different for every single one of us. I haven't had a "borg" dream in ages, my husband still has them frequently, but the tone is changing. He is also reaching the "empowerment" phase where even in your dream, you are the one to walk away....taking emotional control of your life again.
My sister also had Armageddon dreams for years, I very rarely did. I think that's an interesting case study right there. So many witnesses are made to feel that they are not good enough...you know, with the whole "what should you be doing in the last days of this dying system" mentality...I think that's where the Armageddon dreams came into the picture for her. Poor kid....I had them just once or twice, I can't imagine being afraid to go to sleep at night for fear of your dreams.
Anyway, thanks for sharing your dreams with us...I found it interesting!
Tracy
Edited by - think41self on 29 September 2002 11:29:34
before i confess to my rediculous weakness, i just want to assure everyone that i've been out for over 20 yrs - disfed for apostasy - that's true apostasy, as i stopped believing in god.
i (& hubby) were disfed in 1981. never met another apostate or read anything apostate when we left.
thought our way out unaided.
Hey Marilyn
I'm another one of those strange people who like fruitcake...so even if you were one, it would be fine with me.
Dannybear...you don't have to order it from Georgia...my sister and I have killer recipes for fruitcake that no one ever thinks of using as a doorstop!
About your post Marilyn, I found it very interesting to contemplate. My reaction is the total opposite of yours. If I am watching some news clip and they show the JW's at a convention...or if I hear a tape of a few minutes of a watchtower study...I am totally repulsed! I look at those people in their seats and all I can see is the intense boredom on most of their faces...and the sickly sweet dumb ass answers to the watchtower questions.....arggggg, it literally makes me wanna hurl!!
That doesn't mean I don't also have fond memories of times, places and people in my life. I was raised a JW so of course those memories are dub related. But there is no pull attached to those memories. I don't know if that's a difference in the way some people think...or how your emotions are tied in to memories....not sure what the difference is, but it's interesting to think about.
Thanks for sharing with us....as long as you resist that pull baby!!!
Tracy
Edited by - think41self on 29 September 2002 10:49:42
Edited by - think41self on 29 September 2002 10:51:39
i kind of thought maybe he would change after becoming a jw, .
was, and how no boys would ever like me.
soon after that day, he asked me if i would like to babysit his 2 kids that weekend for an evening, as he and his wife were .
((((Vita))))
Thank you for sharing your story, I'm glad you finally felt comfortable enough with us to do that.
Yes, I remember when you first came here, and could totally relate, we all went through that period of doubt when we left...doubt and fear...not exactly comfortable emotions.
I am so sorry for what you went through...you and all the people who have been re-victimized by the elders masquerading as a caring group of men. It makes me angry all over again to remember the kind of control they have in people's lives, and the damage they do with it.
But you know what else it makes me feel? RELIEF!. I am no longer under that control, I am no longer as judgemental and self righteous as the average JW....the way your parents and elders were with you.....and I will never treat my children with such disregard for their feelings because of a bunch of old men in Brooklyn.
So you actually have reason to celebrate Vita...you can have a healthy relationship with your son and husband, you are free of the control of that cult...you are FREE. And by sharing your story you are helping others who are leaving to cope with it and heal faster. Good job!
Tracy
Hey Larry,
Thanks for the pic!
Tracy
firstly, i'd like to say..... i got the all clear!!!!!!!
for those of you who didn't know, i have been tested for the spread of my cancer to my glands.
i had a lump underneath my arm which had to be removed.
Hi Sirona,
That's GREAT news! I am so happy for you!
And your lesson is valuable for all of us...live each day to the fullest....we escaped one trap, let's not waste time on any more trivial things. People are important...the friends we have and the love we share...that's it, bottom line. Thank you for inspiring me again.
Tracy
they are tears of joy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
let me share with you my great news............................ someone from this board has given me the greatest gift i have had in a very long time!!!!!
i recieved an email last night from someone asking me if i could find a place to stay they would buy my ticket so i could be at the march on the 27th.
((((Jesika))))
That is so great Jesika...you deserve to be at the march. Make sure you get to meet up with my little sister while you're there, Safe4kids...she's worth getting to know!
This is why I still believe in the basic goodness of the human race. Thanks for sharing this with us Jesika.
((((Hamptonite))))
Tracy
just wondering about some of the profile pics...i think its nice to know a bit about the person you want us see, or the person you don't want us to see.
so what were you thinking when the pic was taken, how long ago, and where were you?
mine was taken last month, just after my 36th birthday.
Mine is a picture of myself and my favorite sister Dana....aka Safe4kids.
I picked it because I think I look younger than her in this pic and that kind of thing drives her crazy.
The little crowns are cute, aren't they Beck?
Tracy
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i'm a true believer, never doubted, just got lost somewhere alone the way, need help getting back, looking for a woman, to help even out my ruff edges, in nyc 47 love life and want to keep it.
hate being a sinner.......
GRITS....you mean all this time I thought you were a bud and you were a babe?
*smacks self in forehead*
Well hellllllllooooooo babe
Tracy