JAM, YES YOU ARE RIGHT. TALLER PEOPLE ESPECIALLY WOMAN LOOK BETTER DANCING, ICE SCATING, BUT IT DOES NOT MEAN THEY HAVE BETTER TECHNIQUE, BUT THEIR LONGER SWINGS MAKES FOR GRACE.
SIZE MATTERS.
WE WILL FALL FOR THE TALL.
i have always heard women say that men can't dance.
it seems they are right most of the time.
peace,.
JAM, YES YOU ARE RIGHT. TALLER PEOPLE ESPECIALLY WOMAN LOOK BETTER DANCING, ICE SCATING, BUT IT DOES NOT MEAN THEY HAVE BETTER TECHNIQUE, BUT THEIR LONGER SWINGS MAKES FOR GRACE.
SIZE MATTERS.
WE WILL FALL FOR THE TALL.
the wt maintains that perfection was lost when adam and eve sinned.
neanderthals were a people of the same "kind" or species in the biblical sense, as is evident from our all carrying some neanderthal dna.. as the neanderthals came before adam and eve, they must have been perfect, and yet their remains show some horrendous signs of disease.. i wonder how the wt could possibly explain all this ?.
and where does it leave their doctrines of sin and univesal sovreignty etc ?.
the dating methods of the WT BtS inc. are far more suspect than those of the laboratories.
The former are proven failures.
How about the ice man 5000 year old? living within walking distance of the Neanderthal? its downhill!
i have always heard women say that men can't dance.
it seems they are right most of the time.
peace,.
In the old style couple/ballroom dancing, the man had to lead, the lady to follow. she HAD to be the better dancer to sense where he put his foot, what step he was using. It was always a pleasure to have a partner that just was your effortless mirror image, when your right foot/leg went forward her left food leg went backward, with just the right DELAY to feel contact and HEY!!!
I agree with the song, sang by a lady:
Anything you can do, I can do better, anything you can do. I do better than you.
Now I dance that catchy tune with my year-old daughter, when her legs grow like mine she will sing the above
truthfully.
that is the TATT
i know this is old news, but there are so many crazy rubber truck notions about outer space in the database....was wondering if a lot of people even caught the fact that they actually did find something real on the moon of mars.
unless buzz aldrin has all of the sudden taken a ride on the coocoo express as well..and nasa is conspiring to get more money..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilhro3kebqo.
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yea, and Nasa lost a mars lander because they put miles instead of KM in the computer. an they found a mars rock in antarctica.
Obelisk phobia of phobos, the orkney, stonehenge easter island connection.
ok, so i was check this out from the watchtower study edition september 2012 page 11 paragraph 14:.
the bible points to the time when as the last enemy, death is to be brought to nothing.
(1 cor.
this is the overlapping generation of th earthly class. remember the over lapping was of the "anointed" aka the sealed 144 000 remnant.
Now it will be the overlapping generation of the
" millions now living MAY never die" 1918
" millions now living WILL never die" 1919.
"millions that KNEW somebody older in 213 "will possibly never die"
Do they think there will be a medical breakthrough? or that
The talking snake will come through with its promise?
i am well aware that this thread could diverge into a discussion of the legitimacy of the watchtowers view of heavenly class and earthly class and what not.
... but that's not the thrust of my question.
i just replied to a thread about going to memorial and started thinking how after jesus started out no one talked about actually doing it after the initial time.
R 350:
Do we not understand that the ruling as Priest and king is future? in the heavens?
Did not peter reproach the Power hungry or greedy , for having already started to rule with out the apostles?
Was not the first intention of the nation of Israel to have NO KING? royalty only by popular demand?
Was it not the original arrangement to have every Firstborn of EVERY TRIBE & family to be the responsable priest? payment for discrepency in numbers?
Is it not clear that the sealing, anointing by the angels is hidden, even what spiritual tribe you are from is only known to them The angels? if any?
Will not the majority of the Billions of"Christians" (who might have believed in Santa Claus like early bethelites) be resurrected apart from the 144 000? on earth or wherever?
Is not the whole thing symbolic like the snake that talks is symbolic, in other words imaginary, in the mind only?
theres a clear difference between prophecies (predictions of future events) and laws(stuff you should and shouldnt do).. now since xians always says jesus fullfilled the law, how does one fullfill a bunch of requirements like dont murder, dont worship idols, shave your beard like this etc.. there are 613 laws in the torah, jewish rabbis have done all the hard work and we have a nice list on wiki.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/613_mitzvot.
im confused which of those some how select a unique individual to be the unique messiah ?
then again there were many messiahs, every king and priest of israel and judea was a messiah.
mp: inyour mind, Deutr. 18 contains instructions how to identify -- and deal with false prophets, :-- not fear them , --CUT them OFF--, and of course the reward for obeying the TRUE PROPHET.
it is the SCHTICK and CARROT like many Mosaic Laws,
would you consider that as one of the fulfillments by Jesus,
and other pretenders?
besides that we die because of the talking snake? and needed a schtick and carrot as a tutor?
i am well aware that this thread could diverge into a discussion of the legitimacy of the watchtowers view of heavenly class and earthly class and what not.
... but that's not the thrust of my question.
i just replied to a thread about going to memorial and started thinking how after jesus started out no one talked about actually doing it after the initial time.
S2S : This notion of WT man that all early christians were of the "anointed" or "exclusive 144 000 remnant" stems from their mindset that they possess the eternal truth and the spiritual conditions, definitions they imagine exist now, or rather 90 years ago, were also a fact then.
Every time there is a "new light" the COUNT of who was a TRUE christian obviously has to be redone to classify the deseased to theses new, and surely finally true standards .
cutting through all the clutter: if the sealed 144 000 ones are the "anointed" and
1) The sealing, anointing ENDS at the big "A" --(not 1935), and
2) The sealing started at Pentecost 33 or stephens martyrdom, and
3) The 144 000 are sealed OUT OF the 12 tribes of the ISRAEL OF GOD (the Earthly Class) as per Rev.7, then
4) the OS or "Earthly Class" must have existed since Pentecost 33 !!! and therefore
5) it is wrong to say all true Christians EVER were exclusively of the "anointed" 144 000. so we dont have to worry that there were only 80 anointed per year since Christ. among the billions and billions.
of course we are talking only about WT mental constructs here, that includes the talking snake, spare-rib cloning of the first lady, original and subsequent sin and other good stuff.
i don't really remember where i heard this... either at a public talk or a district convention or c.o.
visit or something.. .
my question is, has anyone else in there time with the org heard that said?
reminds me of the probably made- up story of the pioneer talking to a nun with the magazine presentation, and noticing a gold ring, had it confirmed that she considered herself to be a bride of christ.:
The pioneer retorted. :
"well ma' m here then is a letter from your husband."
The bible is a cool, stirring collection of STORIES,
for ALL members of the twelve tribes.
sealed or not.
i moved this comment from another thread to here as i felt it deserved its own thread.. one thing i've noticed is that the letters from paul often include the phrase "all the holy ones", such as at eph 1:15. some translations render this "all the saints".
it seems to be differentiating two groups.
those who are "holy ones" and those who are not.
The WT BtS inc mis-named the 144 000 as "anointed" because:
the only place in scripture where that group and the total of spiritual Israelites is mentioned
TOGETHER, IDENTIFIED SEPARATELY, is Rev. 7 and there the so-called "anointed" are called
"SEALED" OUT off the general Israel of God population.
All Christians are Christians. 144 000 are SEALED to die as martyrs "with the Ax", like christs sacrificial, un natural death.
A death that had its original explanation base of the talking snake.