Posts by prologos

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The Annoyed Id

by Terry in

relax and see if this makes sense....... .

id /id/nounthe part of the mind in which innate instinctive impulses exist.annoy /?

'noi-/verbcause irritation or bother: "annoying habits".

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Similarity in words are revealing. after all we think in words as in logic.

off topic question terry: have you checked the timeline of the Sanderson story in the July wt against your prison persecution?

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July 15th Study Edition Is Up..

by confusedteenager in

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not sure if anyone mentioned this yet, but yeah.

they just posted up the new watchtower...with the confusing new information.. time for me to go dive into this "new light" and try to see what sense it makes.

of course cedars already nicely did a run down for us.. .

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no, that is a termite colony!? that the way they want

the R&File, a mindless hoard, Great Crowd of pre-programmed, unquestioning workers sacrificing themselfs for the Inner Party.

of course it is a BROKEN termite hill is it not?, and as such it is accurate and prophetic.

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Cowardly Governing Body waits 3 years after Raymond Franz death to publish NuLite on FDS

by Calebs Airplane in

in the early 80's raymond franz had already exposed the embarrassing fact that all of the annointed around the globe aren't really "represented" by the governing body as everyone around that time was led to believe (by what had been published up to that time).

when ray finally brought this to light (in crisis of conscience), the gb practically went into radio silence on this subject, then waited only 3 years after ray's death to admit that they consider only themselves worthy enough to hold the fds title.

narcisistic power-hungry cowards!

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In the successful science community (or the patent process) a new paper, application would never be accepted if you do not cite prior art, all seminal work by others.

here shamelessly information is claimed as original, when in fact all these ideas and better ones were available to them from many sources, letters they should have kept on file.

In the real world, all this would be rejected, as of course will be in due time, by NEWER LIGHT or Reality catching up with them.

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The July 15 Watchtower and all its new light is only...

by sosoconfused in

making people cling to the organization more.

when i found out it was up i told so many people frantically that there is a new study article up and that it had so many changes.

my mother started crying saying how happy she is to be a part of an organization that is truly directed by jehovah... only the true faithful and discreeet slave could have such insight.... another person began to say how great it is to see the celestial chariot on the move.. .

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Good news in that wt. :

The anointed ie. the GB will not make it into the new system, the 1000 year paradise, for they will have the reward during the GT.

bad news: with the overlapping generation, which is still new/old /unchanged light,-- that may be 50+ years away.

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Questions Regarding the New Light on the FDS

by Ding in

it's my understanding that the old light regarding the faithful and discreet slave was that in 1918-1919 jesus appointed the faithful and discreet slave over all his house.. but under the new light, it's a two-stage process.. now the "truth" is that in 1919 jesus appointed the governing body to provide spiritual food in due season and the gb will only be placed in authority over his domestics during the great tribulation.. all of this is wt nonsense, but in order to get jws who believe this stuff to think about the implications, my questions are:.

1. what will the future appointment authorize the governing body to do that is not yet authorized?.

2. since under the old light the governing body has wrongly believed they have had this authority since 1919, doesn't this mean they have been wrongly exercising authority that jesus hasn't yet given them?.

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and why, as the july wt says, did rutherford appoint himself (more or less) and disssolved the existing "Governing body" of 7 brothers? was he then, after that soup d'etat, not alone, himself the F&DS?

did a governing body not re-appear until the 60s?

was it not the rutherford/Franz duo the tail that wagged the dog?

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The Annoyed Id

by Terry in

relax and see if this makes sense....... .

id /id/nounthe part of the mind in which innate instinctive impulses exist.annoy /?

'noi-/verbcause irritation or bother: "annoying habits".

prologos

terry ditto, just to show you are not alone, if you care look at post 668 of "How many anointed were there?".

I deliberately did not correct a spelling error on the 3d line down, calling the anointed anoied. close to anoyed.

Keep writing we will keep reading.

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How Many Anointed Have There Been?

by konceptual99 in

has there ever been any research done to indicate how many individuals have claimed to be anointed since 33 c.e.?.

basically, all the congregation from 33ce to (say) around 90ce was, then it dropped down to indiividuals until growth from 1870ish.. the whole congregation of that period from late 19thc until 1935 was anointed and since then it has been dipping then growing.. there must be an allowance for those that would not have been anointed through that period.. have any estimates been done?

is the pool of individuals in the first centuary and the modern day history so big as to completely blow the number of 144000 out of the window?.

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k 99: what do you mean by "anointed"? the WT BtS term refers to the remnant on earth of the ones destined to rule closely with Christ in heaven, and

the answer of course is 144 000. and

Heathen is right, to qualify you have to die executed by the Ax Rev. 20:4

( Mussolini's Faschists had as their party symbol a bundle of wood kindling wrapped around an AX) showing their roman- based power to execute opposers by beheading and/or burning.

Hitler used the Guillotine, a mechanized ax.

Wt is wrong saying you can die peacefully in bed as long as you are a partaker, you will rule next to Christ.

All christians are anointed, that is what the name means.

billions took communium (partook of the emblems) during the ages.

the count is meaningless. It is less than 80 per year since pentecost 33. the rest of all christians would be the so called "earthly class" since they did not know the "Newest light" of the July 15 2013 Wt. (they did not have the truth)

but the answer is:

144 000. In chaper 7 it speaks of the SEALED ones. not anoied ones.

unless the book of Revelation, like the talking snake, the cloned lady, vegetarion lions, the everest-covering flood, Jonah and Jaws, talking ass, self-starting pregnancies etc usw are all made up. then the answer is:

its all the cheap italien meat product.

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Questions for Believers about the Soul

by cantleave in

at what point do you believe the soul is made / inserted?

in which of the gametes is the soul or the information for the soul stored, sperm or ovum.

is it inserted at fertilisation, some other point during embryogenesis or is it during fetal development?

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if God is a "God of the living", where are the "departed" alive, in his memory?, his book of life ?, a data bank?

very important personality issues are resolved during our sleep.

the good thing is that we might get answers later as indicated by this sign in FL business:

Is there life after death?-

try to hold up this place and

find out.

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Sheeps and Goats... People or Nations?

by DeWandelaar in

for jw's the scripture matthew 25:31-33 was always a very import issue.. i was reading this scripture lately in the new international version where it writes the following:.

the sheep and the goats31 when the son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne.

32 all the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.

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The context indicates that it is not whole nations who are examined and judged. but individuals.

The US residents, the nation is not judged wether or not "Obama - care" provided adequate health services for poor re - tired window washers, although caring for the sick is part of the basis for judgement.

The goats will be judged as individuals because they did not put enough house 2 house work time in when they could have. they did not support the GB, newly minted as the FDS of 1919 vintage.

There will be community responsability of course for national governments not allowing sales of WT literature.

The sheep will inherit a kingdom in existence since Abel, without a ruling king, because that had to wait until 1914.

a nation of sheep. not now, but then, at the GT.

we dont know who the sheep are, because we dont know who the sealed ones are (and probably never will, because like sinners they will have to die) to go to heaven.

Keep it simple, do good to all, of all backgrounds, because you are helping a fellow creature.

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For All Jehovah's Witnesses: When did Jesus begin ruling as King?

by Darth Rutherford in

to all jehovah's witnesses, here is an easy question you can answer... when did jesus begin ruling as king?.

watch tower answers:.

following his resurrection, jesus ascended to heaven and waited at gods right hand until 1914 to begin ruling as king.

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as in the wt 81 quote by Searcher: Col. 1:13 "--transferred (past tense) US into the KINGDOM of his SON of his love."

Can you be the king of that kingdom and not rule as King? but:

are not prayers still offered: "---let your Kingdom come--" future please?

There is enough kingdoms to choose from to create many churches.

the one of 1914 is made up.