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  The Biggest Fear From The Watchtower Organization Is ???

  by minimus in

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  i think the organization is worried most about how jws will stay loyal to their families even as it rejects the admonition of the gb and elders..

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  westiebilly11

  listen..obey.....and be stressed.....
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  WT ain't going out of business.

  by joe134cd in

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  2. bible

  i've heard this said in other posts, so now i'm going to combine it in one post.. the $28 million awarded to conti is only drop in the bucket for what they are worth.. there would have to be 100 s of successful sex abuse law suites before they would feel it.

  quite frankly i don't reckon there would be enough with the right circumstances to have a successful case against wt.

  having a dozen or so cases isn't going to break the bank.

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  westiebilly11

  yep..totally electronic and low overheads.....and only preaching work will be via street trolleys etc....
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  Will this Memorial be our last?

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  they just put up the march km 2014 on the private website.

  most of it is same-old-same-old, with info here and there about the memorial.. somebody here might post the march km for all to see, i wont.. i just wanted to share the paragraph from page 2 q&a anticle: will you seize the opportunity?

  upcoming memorial enables us to show gratitude .

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  westiebilly11

  ..to be expected....1914-2014...but disillusionism will set in come 2015...
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  How much money do you think WT actually makes a year ?

  by cookiemaster in

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  2. experiences

  i know that just recently they've made billions by cashing in their real estate from brooklyn.

  i also saw somewhere that only the uk branch, in a year, made 16 million pounds in profit with their stock portofolio.

  my cousin worked personally for a guy in italy, who was involved in the mafia , and was a jw, and apparently he donated at a single convention more than 1 million euros(probably as a way to wash his sins).

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  westiebilly11

  all that money sloshing around......and they are still tax exempt?....charity status?.....oh come off it!!!
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  Ray Franz

  by thedog1 in

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  2. friends

  am reading coc at the moment, about half way through.

  just finished reading some of the details of what happened in malawi and mexico years ago.

  which reminded me that in the early 80's a very well known elder in the country i was then living in went to new york as he had discovered all the discrepencies between what had happened in malawi and in mexico and wanted to know what the gb had to say about it.

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  westiebilly11

  I remember at the time how elders etc would discuss the malawi situation and made a big thing of it but never was mexico mentioned.....shame shame shame on the wtbs for their two faced duplicity...wish more elders etc then and now knew the facts as Ray Franz did....
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  How bad is the nepotism really with the appointments of elders?

  by toto555 in

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  2. beliefs

  i've seen brothers related or who are friends of elders who get appointed after only 6-12 months as an m.s.

  while they were other brothers slaving away for years.

  elders also who promote their sons and basically say to other young brothers "to heck with everyone else".

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  westiebilly11

  in the 30 years I was in after baptism I was never appointed...but I have seen whole family members (male of course) appointed in quick succession...usually alwasy done to 'entrap' youngsters who were on the verge of eyeing higher/further education....and most definitely nepotism...
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  Kingdom Ministry Feb 2014 has a couple interesting statements

  by RayPublisher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i thought the kingdom ministry feb 2014 had a couple interesting things in it:.

  1. a short talk encouraging the jw sales force to publicize the jw.org website at every opportunity.. 2. do not put out bibles on your table displays keep them hidden underneath.

  i thought they were so p-p-p-p-proud of their new nwt??.

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  nice one day to have real/bad experiences related instead.....much more realistic..
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  I regret my disassociation.

  by Zoos in

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  2. friends

  if i knew then what i know now, i might never have disassociated myself.

  i realize all i can do is speculate on what could have been.

  however, when i consider the number of people i might have been able to help by dropping little thought-provoking seeds, i really regret having jumped to the decision to disassociate so quickly.. ive read the accounts of several people on this forum telling of how stressful it is to be in the position that i just described above.

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  disassociation plays straight into their hands....you in effect remove a very useful platform to raise doubts/freethinking.....so wish I had stayed in longer and actively engaged in spiritual readjustment/enlightenment
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  Sneaky introduction advice from Dec KM

  by Splash in

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  2. beliefs

  it says on page 1 par.

  3 in the q&a item.

  "where people belong to a non-christian religion, or to no religion at all, it may be better to mention the bible on a return visit, rather than at the outset.

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  westiebilly11

  in my experience the quickest way to bring doorstep proceedings to a halt was to produce a bible.........in full view.....aaaarrrrggghh!
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  Let's Talk About Sex

  by cofty in

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  2. beliefs

  a old thread was bumped recently in which posters from 9 years ago raised objections to evolution basesd on personal incredulity regarding sexual reproduction.. i remember an elder in one of my old congregations saying something to the effect that "how could evolution be true, if men evolved before women...blah blah" you get the picture.. i have refreshed my memory of a chapter in nick lane's excellent book "life arising - the ten greatest inventions of evolution" and put together a summary.

  it would be great if others would add to it - cantleave, adam, tiktaalik, s&r, bohm et al?.

  here is my starter focusing on the problem with non-sexual selection.... if the driving force in evolution is the struggle of selfish genes to pass on copies of themselves to future generations, then sex seems counter-productive.

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  westiebilly11

  point re reproduction is interesting....could someone enlighten me on how a man and a woman' found' each other to reproduce?...at the same time?....sorry if I sound out of sync on this...