the following is an extract from something i wrote 16 years ago soon after leaving the watchtower.
i am posting it because it may help honest jws consider how far their beliefs are at odds with new testament christians.
if they have "the truth" then their attitude to jesus ought to reflect that of the apostles.
Hey Cofty,
I am going to use this info for tonight's family worship. My wife is beating me up for not having any bible discussions in the last 2 years, let's see how it goes.... I have to figure out how to deliver this material in a subtle way and just let it sink in...
so i joined very recently and began posting and commenting without a formal intro.
been reading for a while, decided it was time to jump in.
mentally i am completely cleansed of this thing, but still have to maintain a minimal involvement for spouse and family.
Welcome my friend! Yes, many are waking up but have to stay quiet. You and I are on the same boat and although is agonizing to sit through a meeting or convention, the idea is to plan your exit carefully.
No matter what moves you take, this religion is setup for the player to lose and the house will always win. What I mean is, we will still lose family, friends, and our reputation. You have to tally up your losses and just prepare for what you will lose. If you chose wisely, the outcome can be a fulfilling life... and who knows? maybe leave a legacy behind.
dear brothers ans sisters.
i just received this mail in french..(thank you google to have translates it)..this mail is from a still inside brother who encourage to come back.
do you think its a fact or an other urban legend.
look up in the right-hand corner of this page.. find where it says welcome (name).. did you locate that?.
now click on your name and observe the new page loading takes you to a top blue bar with a menu.. it should read:.
active topics search members topics started .
thousands of animals have been slaughtered at a religious ceremony in nepal.
the gadhimai festival takes place every 5 years.
apparently some imaginary deity can be bribed by the sight of blood.. before getting too judgemental does it remind you of anybody?.
I read that article a few days ago and it just shows us how ignorant people can be. Now imagine if we could see these same pictures of Moses and his cronies doing the same immoral ritual. No blood can atone or pay for our mistakes in life, NO SACRIFICE. It reminds of what Sam Harris said, "Christianity is the worship of human sacrifice"
yes, god says all the time in the bible that it's no god upon him.. technically, doesn't that mean he's an atheist?.
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I think this website could help you with that question.
http://www.godwouldbeanatheist.com/
God by his own definition is an athiest.
I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God Isaiah 45:5
i have been perusing through the many boe documents i have recently received and noticed something interesting.
regarding ones who disassociate themselves, there have been many discussions on this board where people tell others not write a letter as you are giving away any legal footing you may have against the society.
well, it appears that there are two routes you can take without officially getting da'd, according to the society's own documents.
Funny how we get to see this happen in real life
breakfast of champions mentioned this on the elder appointment thread and it struck a chord with me.. is this term big in bethel?
obviously nothing in my bible says a thing about being 'seen' in serve-us or in other jw activities, but a long time bethelite went off on a visibility tirade that i remember distinctly during special servants/elders meeting when i was in.
i remember at the time thinking that the big j-dog in the heavens sees everything, so why the big fuss over the rank and file seeing us do stuff for the big j-dog?.
Among the Spanish congos they se the term "give support with your presence" and the result is the same.
breakfast of champions mentioned this on the elder appointment thread and it struck a chord with me.. is this term big in bethel?
obviously nothing in my bible says a thing about being 'seen' in serve-us or in other jw activities, but a long time bethelite went off on a visibility tirade that i remember distinctly during special servants/elders meeting when i was in.
i remember at the time thinking that the big j-dog in the heavens sees everything, so why the big fuss over the rank and file seeing us do stuff for the big j-dog?.
The major problem with the JW religion is that you are rewarded with “privileges” when you put on a good show. They never consider if the person shows genuine love, empathy, forgiveness, etc. if you have a clean cut appearance and you are a “YES” man, you will move up.
to give a little background, my parents are in their late 50s.
around a year ago, my elder dad got laid off from his job.
he worked as a auto mechanic making ok money.
Hey BU2B, is ironic how my dad (an elder) went to the social security office and just got his first check last month. Imagine someone telling him that he was going to reach 65 in this system of things 30 years ago. What I don't understand is how my parents continue to buy and sell land, own a business, a house, cattle, they got a loan to buy a car and yet he still looks at the middle east and thinks they will initiate the big A soon. Oh the double standards! On the other hand, my parents have money and are not willing to help me since I married a person who they did not approve
