When I confronted my elders with the UN issue, they did not deny it at all. Just stated it was not a big issue at all, and really ok.
InquiryMan
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Will the Watchtower answer truthfully?
by Ariell ini told my mother about the un scandal.
of course she knew nothing about it.
me: mom, it's on the official website.
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two young jw girls knocking at my door
by kilroy2 intwo young jw girls form the indian river congergation came knocking at my door yesterday.
at first i thought that they were mormons.
they said that they were dubbers.
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InquiryMan
Even as a youth JW I was aware of the 607 vs 586 controversy....
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Swedish JW df'ed ...................
by TheOldHippie inin case nobody else has heard it, the swedish jw who was the "main personage" in the television program aired a month or so ago, was df'ed yesterday.
the branch hung up upon him in the program and asked him to write a letter, giving his story how he had been abused etc.
the branch overseer told the reporters how sorry he felt for him, and that he had been helped, and how they wanted to help him in the future, too.
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InquiryMan
Along with two other topics, the exposé on JWs and abuse, was the three programmes on Mission Investigate that stirred most attention last season. On Juy 24th, a review will be made with a follow up and those three cases.
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Swedish JW df'ed ...................
by TheOldHippie inin case nobody else has heard it, the swedish jw who was the "main personage" in the television program aired a month or so ago, was df'ed yesterday.
the branch hung up upon him in the program and asked him to write a letter, giving his story how he had been abused etc.
the branch overseer told the reporters how sorry he felt for him, and that he had been helped, and how they wanted to help him in the future, too.
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InquiryMan
The main Evening News Programme on the main Swedish TV Channel carried a report on the latest developments. There was TV coverage of the man who stepped forward in the programme Mission/Investigate (showing views from an assembly hall etc.) with comments on the developments leading to his being disfellowshipped and a brief resume of his story. The "Victim" was then interviewed on his DF. On the TV Programme, it was shown parts of a committee meeting filmed with a secret camera on the charge that he had been seen smoking. To this, he did show remorse. According to the victom, the committee members have had no contact with him after the meeting that was shown on TV. They neither called him nor visited him and he was not called for another meeting either. This monday two elders approached him in his place of work informing him that he was disfellowshipped. It was even said to him that he by participating in the TV Programme showed that he no longer wanted to be a part of the congregation. New accusations were not made. The "DF" was also explaining to the TV viewers the implications of being disfellowshipped - shunning from friends and family and that one even might risk DF if befriending a DF person.
In the end of the report, a photo of the Swedish Branch coordinator was given, and a statement of his was referred. He stated that the Disfellowshipping had nothing to do with his appearing on the TV programme, but due to confidentiality the reasons had to be kept secret.
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Swedish JW df'ed ...................
by TheOldHippie inin case nobody else has heard it, the swedish jw who was the "main personage" in the television program aired a month or so ago, was df'ed yesterday.
the branch hung up upon him in the program and asked him to write a letter, giving his story how he had been abused etc.
the branch overseer told the reporters how sorry he felt for him, and that he had been helped, and how they wanted to help him in the future, too.
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InquiryMan
I guess they’ll be notified.
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What is the WT view of donating to charity?
by sonofapreacherman in.
i have been completely out of touch for over a decade, but i recall that the general sentiment was that charities are often corrupt or inefficient, and too often have some association with false religion..
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InquiryMan
Throughout my years as a JW I’ve contributed to charitable organizations like Red Cross, Amnesty International, Save the Children Fund, various health organizations etc.
Never felt that was a problem...
Other witnesses I’ve known have done likewise.
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Were you married at the Kingdom Hall ? How bad was your wedding reception ?
by run dont walk ini'm just wondering...... i remember going to some wedding receptions for couples who got married at the kingdom hall,.
and i hate to be mean but, super boring, and bad, how bad you ask ??
ok here we go ..... - the worst had to be one couple played kingdom meolodies for their wedding dances, i couldn't believe it.. - no alcohol (i'm sure we all experienced a few of these), reception was over by 9:30.. - no music at all, just a gathering of people, and they ended the reception with a prayer, i thought i was at an assembly.. - food, like if you can't afford to get married don't, like frozen stuff bought at your local grocery store, and still in the package when you got up to the tables, how tacky.. - you could always tell a couple who couldn't afford much, when you had to drive 50 miles into the back woods to find some dinky little community hall they rented for $100.. - i remember one where the bride was pregnant, i was really surprised they allowed them to use the kingdom hall.. - another classic was, they had this band (of all jw's of course) and man they were bad.
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InquiryMan
None of the above descriptions fit to my experience of witness weddings. They have all been joyful events, mostly with nice personal talks in the Kingdom Hall, good food, nice music (live or recorded, rockn’ roll, hit music, good oldies and disco), nice entertainment (sometimes of really good quality), moving personal speeches/songs, alcohol, although not in abundance, but still not marked with puritanism...
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June 2203 K.M. anyone?
by Lisa Lefteye in.
can anyone tell me what the first service meeting song was for june 16 and june 23rd?
lisa
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InquiryMan
55 and 95 respectively.
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What "RULES" Did YOU Want To BREAK?
by minimus insince the organization has so many rules, did you ever just want to break a rule, just to do it?
one rule that i enjoyed breaking was the 15 to 20 minute rule that you were supposed to come to the meeting early.
i was regularly tardy.
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InquiryMan
Lucky us European witnesses. The R-rating of films were never enforced in that way here. Only principle - avoiding bad films. That’s it. To me, it meant avoiding e.g. occult movies etc. I hardly doubt anyone here would react on the Titanic movie... It was also rated as a film allowed for pre-teens. I did see the Matrix with a bunch of elders. One left, and no one made a scene about that. I wanted to leave, cause I thought it was too violent, stayed though. As a youth I did see, An officer and A gentleman. But we as a group all left at the time. Later one I heard a sister who had seen it several times with her daughter. No one made a big deal. I know people at Bethel watching James Bond-movies... I know pioneers watching film containing both sex and violence. Is that a reason for seeing or not seeing a movie? Of course not, people choose for themselves.
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What did you miss out on most, because you were stuck in JW land ???
by run dont walk in.
could of been as a child, teenanger, adult,anytime in your life, did you feel that being a jw (or jw parents) prevented you from doing things you really wanted to do.
why does the watchtower find it necessary to "rob" people of being human and enjoy things in life ??
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InquiryMan
Of course, we get the same literature as the US brethren, the assemblies are the same, but I’ll definitely say there are substantial cultural differences between witnesses in various countries, due to culture. E.g. in Denmark, even elders giving talks at District conventions may have a beard - unheard of in most other countries. In Sweden, most witnesses did not dance (even in weddings), I think salsa-loving hispano brothers would find that surprising. In Germany, most witnesses are pretty liberal when it comes to alcohol, whereas they might be very strict in other areas. In England, I even saw a brother giving a number two talk in the TMS, having a ring in his ear.... In one Scandinavian country, piercing and tattoos are not unheard of, although disapproved officially. The emphasis may be different on various issues, and some of the more "extreme" views are simply not enforced on a grand scale. It might also be due to the number of witnesses, that a JW sub culture have developed, that have certain standards that are enforced either locally or regionally.