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Edited by - InquiryMan on 9 October 2002 7:3:23
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as i went about my wifely duties today, i had a thought and would like the imput from some former brothers and/or elders, ms, po, co's.. since leaving the borg, has the way you view your wife/companion/daughter/sister/mother changed?
let me elaborate.
while being brought up a dub, i was taught that women were in subjection.
many sisters I know, just let the subordinate talk go into one ear and out of the other.
Never liked it myself either. Equality is the thing.
lets post somethings as a dub you dont say:.
luck, you dont say party, its a get together.
you dont go to church, its a hall
If I had been an American JW, Id be insane by now...
lets post somethings as a dub you dont say:.
luck, you dont say party, its a get together.
you dont go to church, its a hall
Quite a few of the things mentioned above seems to apply to American witnesses. By and large, European, at least Northern European ones are less militant and more relaxed.
(We do say good luck, or at least the equivalent of it, on noe one raises an eyebrow to that. It is common to say Good luck in service!).
The fuss about R-rated movies is not as big either (they are rated differently, and people are simply not that obsessed with it as their american counterparts.)
i was just thinking that holloween is just around the corner.
woulnt it be a scream to dress up in a dress and hubby in a suit and tie and go "door to door" for holloween???.
hehehhe!
Do American witnesses dress that bad? (:-
In a newspaper article (liberal paper) describing an assembly in a European country, the journalist described the atmosphere as resembling the 50s due to the family-friendly atmosphere (please do not mess comments with pe... into this as well, it is getting sort of worn out). The way people dressed, groomed and bijouteri was described as modern.
Most witness youths dress very modern, slightly downplayed at assemblied, but def. modern in leisure time.
as i have recently started to question everything i was taught, i started wondering about the grooming "laws".
one that never really made sense to me was that the brothers could not have beards.
where is that written?
Interestingly, in WT literature from the 50s, Jesus is even depicted without a beard, e.g. see Paradise Lost - Paradise regained book.
This rule may vary within a country and from country to country, depending on the makeup of elders and sentiments of congregation, and perhaps also of brothers brave enough to introduce it.
Goaties have become pretty common though.
In some countries, e.g. Denmark, the Netherlands and Ireland (as far as I have heard) beards are generally accepted, even for elders.
(Denmark and the Netherlands being very open-minded, liberal countries).
In Denmark, even brothers having beards may have talks in the assembly programs,
whereas in a neighboring country, having a moustache might exclude a brother for even
being a "microphone" servant.
Edited by - InquiryMan on 2 October 2002 13:52:56
Edited by - InquiryMan on 2 October 2002 13:53:46
i'm going to approach my family about the witnesses.
i may only get one shot at this, so it'll have to be good.
something short, fast, and effective, but with the possibility of further growth.
I would think twice before divulging facts on elderly ones. Also keep in mind that some have been content and also happy being in the truth.
I guess being in advanced years, it would be best to be left "alone", but if possible, give them all the love and support they need (if youre permitted to do so).
i see a number of board members alluding to the elders as antagonists.
this is amoral.
there is an inference that these ones ( elders ) can think for themselves, they cannot.
That is why I finally resigned.
However, most elders I know are decent, good people, although mentally stuck to WT mindset.
There are various degrees of dependende though. some are very robot, whereas others (at least in private)
are much more open minded.
Elders are not necessarily a homogenous group.
Please do not lump all into one category.
But, I guess in the end, the decent, thinking ones will finally step down.
i wonder what happens to the watchtower if a quiet pattern of passive resistance develops.. the average witness might not even be aware of it - they skip more meetings, take up.
college courses, pad more hours, and (the big one!
) fail to contribute!.
I am afraid your observations are correct.
I myself testify to this fact.
the latest question from readers shows a picture of kids playing poker for pennies.
the bottom line: christians don't do this.it endangers spirituality.
"christians who enjoy board or card games as recreation would be better advised to keep a penciled score or to play the game simply for fun without keeping score.
I read it too, and found it rather humerous. Even implying that giving points should be avoided, although it did state that points could be given. (Woow, what freedom).