moshe i took this off another thread but posting it here now - in some of your recent posts you sound like someone with a serious dislike for women in general. Im sorry if you have been hurt/manipulated in the past. We are not all like you say we are...Your comments are extremely offensive and hurtful to me as a woman, and Im sure Im not the only one here who feels that way. See posting guideline number 2 and please, think before you post. Best wishes to you. Sky
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Are you prepared to apologise even when it is not you fault?
by usualusername inare you prepared to apologise even when it is not you fault?.
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breaking up is hard to do
by fresh prince of ohio inbackground: i joined the jws when i was 21, left about 11 years ago.. up until recently, i had never been in a relationship that went longer than a few months.
and that was just one.. i've been with my current for the past 3.5 years.
she's, just, okay.. i've never felt like, oh, i love her so much.
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breaking up is hard to do
by fresh prince of ohio inbackground: i joined the jws when i was 21, left about 11 years ago.. up until recently, i had never been in a relationship that went longer than a few months.
and that was just one.. i've been with my current for the past 3.5 years.
she's, just, okay.. i've never felt like, oh, i love her so much.
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drink the alcohol AFTER you break up with your GF, she at least deserves the respect of a sober discussion!
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breaking up is hard to do
by fresh prince of ohio inbackground: i joined the jws when i was 21, left about 11 years ago.. up until recently, i had never been in a relationship that went longer than a few months.
and that was just one.. i've been with my current for the past 3.5 years.
she's, just, okay.. i've never felt like, oh, i love her so much.
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Sorry to say, you have already hurt her.
You need to be honest so she can move on - if you pretend to love her when you dont, you are stopping her from moving on and having a relationship with someone who loves her back equally, not just sticking around because he's scared to be alone.
Be kind but honest. Apologise for leading her on for so long. Id cry all night too if i wasted 3.5 years on a guy who didnt love me back - unrequited love SUCKS. It is not self pitying to be upset about that!
Please dont jump into another relationship too soon - sounds like you might be better single for a while. You sound like you're just as needy as you say she is -concentrate on developing FRIENDSHIPS first, if you can maintain a few of them for a while, then you might just be able to have a healthy romantic relationship.
Wishing you and her all the best
Sky
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AUSTRALIA | Jehovah's Witnesses and Watchtower Society Appear Before Child Abuse Inquiry | Thursday 11 April, 2013
by jwleaks injehovah's witnesses say it is not their responsibility to report child sex abuse to police unless mandatory reporting legislation is in place.. a victorian inquiry on thursday heard that when a jehovah's witness leader hears allegations of abuse they are directed immediately to contact the society's legal department to check their obligations under state law.. jehovah's witness legal counsel rachel van witsen said elders were not expected to know their legal obligations.. "this is done to ensure elders fully comply with any legal requirements that may be applicable in the state in which they reside," she said.. "in victoria if there was mandatory reporting the immediate advice would be to report that immediately.".
the society's director terrence o'brien said the decision to take the allegations to police lay with the victim.. "without mandatory reporting we don't feel that as ministers of religion that's our obligation to do that," mr o'brien said.. however, the organisation would encourage the victim to report it and would co-operate fully with police, he said.. ms van witsen said elders would make an exception if they felt the child was threatened.. "we would report that to appropriate authorities," she told the inquiry.. "we're about stopping child abuse.".
two ministers have been removed from the society for child sex abuse in 40 years of records, the parliamentary inquiry heard.. http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2013/04/11/20/59/jehovah-s-witnesses-stay-in-line-on-abuse.
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I know of many decent elders who would definitely encourage reporting, but others that see things differently and would want to keep it all hush hush.
Im all for mandatory reporting in all states. That way, they are legally compelled to report even suspicion of child abuse/neglect etc. Same as school teachers. The WTS should be erring on the side of caution here, if they are really "about stopping child abuse", then why wait for the law to compel them to report. I guess they are worried about defamation.
Where is it in the elders handbook that they should encourage victims to go to the police?? That direction needs to be there. And elders should be reminded of it!
I know of some witnesses who see the elders as the final authority and want them to act as policemen, because that is the way they have been led to feel by all the brainwashing - there needs to be a WT article about this.... are you reading this WTS??!! Some witnesses take the WT as gospel and they wont do anything unless a WT encourages it!!! YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE PEOPLE!!!
Rant over.
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Are you prepared to apologise even when it is not you fault?
by usualusername inare you prepared to apologise even when it is not you fault?.
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Yes, in the "Im sorry that things are so tense between us... can we talk about it/make up now please? I miss you" way
but not in the im so sorry i did wrong (even tho i didnt) way
Just this weekend I bawled my eyes out to my husband and my mum (seperately) and said, Im so sorry that this hurts you, I hate that you are upset. I just cant be a hypocrite and remain active when I dont believe it all anymore.
I am genuinely sad for their pain and stress, but im not sorry for my actions.
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The joyfulness of being grandparents. LOL
by jam ini get a kick out of our kids when they freak out, they can,t.
understand why there children misbehave.
hello , have you forgot.
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i have to remind myself all the time they're just kids and not to expect so much of them!
Mine are holy terrors and little angels all at the same time!
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The CO 'encourages' Julia to meet with THREE elders- the latest episode in the best-selling drama, The Fade of Julia Orwell.
by Julia Orwell init was yesterday morning and hubby and i were having a huge sleep in.
it was just after ten, and with me being a bit flu-ey i was quite capable of staying in bed longer.
hubby was feeling it too, and we were pleasantly drifting in and out to the sounds of birds.. then suddenly, cloomp, cloomp, cloomp up the front stairs, then "rap-rap-rap" on the front screen door, that rapid-fire, strong knock of the practiced door-knocker.
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"princecharmant"?? Hardly a prince with that comment. People come here for support and advise, not that kind of sarcasm. I dont think Julia is getting any kind of "kicks" out of this, she is probably just as relieved as I was to find an online community where she could uburden herself and not feel so alone. Her story is helpful to others here, even if its not to you, please dont discourage her.
Sky
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Men & Women - How true this is!
by SkyGreen inhttp://s80.photobucket.com/user/dot_rpg/media/man-woman-switchboard.jpg.html .
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http://s80.photobucket.com/user/DoT_RPG/media/Man-Woman- Switchboard.jpg.html
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just curious. How about blood?
by never a jw ini have never been a jw, but i have lived literally surrounded by them since i married my wife, almost 20 years ago.
since i never raised a fuss before, i guess i was also brain-washed into thnking that their religion was harmless and the leaders were well intended.. i have been reading your comments for many months and have come to realize how harmful the religion is.
your comments have been mostly about the pain inflicted by shunning, deception in the literature, and the views on higher education.
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Thanks for that reference StoneWall, Ive bumped that thread.