Posts by Longlivetherenegades

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How Many of Jehovah’s Witnesses Are There Worldwide? FAQ Are You A Jehovah's Witness in REALITY

by Longlivetherenegades in

from the faq as captured on the website with this question (how many jehovah's witnesses are there worldwide?

) led to this question of mine who do the organization sees as a jehovah's witness?

the organization answers: .

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@ alanv.........As with anything JW related, you cant look deep into the subject

Fastest way to see the veil behind the curtain called JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION is to go beyond the surface

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How Many of Jehovah’s Witnesses Are There Worldwide? FAQ Are You A Jehovah's Witness in REALITY

by Longlivetherenegades in

from the faq as captured on the website with this question (how many jehovah's witnesses are there worldwide?

) led to this question of mine who do the organization sees as a jehovah's witness?

the organization answers: .

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@ Phizzy....Again, the Org wants it both ways, you are not a JW when they say so, and yet you are a few minutes later if they say so !

That's exactly how it is

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How Many of Jehovah’s Witnesses Are There Worldwide? FAQ Are You A Jehovah's Witness in REALITY

by Longlivetherenegades in

from the faq as captured on the website with this question (how many jehovah's witnesses are there worldwide?

) led to this question of mine who do the organization sees as a jehovah's witness?

the organization answers: .

From the FAQ as captured on the website with this question (How many Jehovah's Witnesses are there worldwide?) led to this question of MINE who do the ORGANIZATION sees as a Jehovah's witness? The ORGANIZATION answers:

1. We count as Jehovah’s Witnesses only those who are actively preaching the good news of God’s Kingdom each month(baptized publisher or unbaptized publisher)

2. Do you count THOSE ASSOCIATED with your ORGANIZATION who do not preach?

Although we do not include such ones in the number of Witnesses, we welcome them in our congregations.

3. By contrast, we count as Jehovah’s Witnesses only those who preach to others and who report that activity, not those who merely identify themselves as Witnesses.

What EMERGES from the three points above?

Someone that is not reporting but a baptized member and not dead. Is that person a Jehovah's witness or NOT?

Since the ORGANIZATION say they count only does actively preaching as Jehovah's WITNESSES, then someone that fades away is not a Jehovah's Witness despite being a BAPTIZED PUBLISHER and his baptism identify him as ONE.

This lead into the second baptismal question

Second baptismal question.

Do you understand that your BAPTISM identifies you as one of JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES in ASSOCIATION WITH Jehovah’s organization?

Look at the second question in that FAQ article again below....

Do you COUNT those ASSOCIATED with your organization who do not preach?

The answer according to the organization is......Although We DO NOT INCLUDE SUCH ONES in the NUMBER of WITNESSES,

Do you see the usage of the word ASSOCIATED? An invitee who attends the MEMORIAL GATHERING is not a Jehovah's Witness same as a baptized publisher who do not report his activity too is not a Jehovah's Witness

but from the second baptismal question, the following can be said....

as a result of baptism many come into ASSOCIATION with the ORGANIZATION and are SEEN as now as a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS by all.

So, what is this all about?

1. It means despite baptism and recognizing your baptism IDENTIFIES you as a JW. You will not be counted as a JW when you fail to report and should you do so consistently the status remains the same.

2. From the first point on that FAQ aricle, they count unbaptized publishers who actively preach as JEHOVAH'S WITNESS without baptism. In essence the second baptismal question and baptism does not count or made less important in such case.

Who then really is a Jehovah's witness looking at the way they play with words relating to...... Who they see and count as Jehovah's witness and who they don't see and count as Jehovah's WITNESSES

So when RETURNING to JEHOVAH as this week watchtower study article is based. Those willing to do so should be ready to RESUME their WORK as SALES MARKETER. It seems that's the ONLY BASIS for RETURNING since an unbaptized publisher is equally a Jehovah's Witness like you without baptism doing well in the SALES MARKETING business.

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Beards are depicted as normal in heaven but not on earth

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the watchtower—study edition | august 2020. study article 32. walk humbly and modestly with your god.

jesus is depicted in the heavens.

next to him stand some of his co-rulers.

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1 Timothy 6: 15For, At just the right time Christ will be revealed from heaven by the blessed and only almighty God, the King of all kings and Lord of all lords. 16He alone can never die, and he lives in light so brilliant that no human can approach him. No human eye has ever seen him, nor ever will. All honor and power to him forever! Amen.

Since JWs believe that this particular scripture is talking about JESUS CHRIST, the question is WHY and HOW can they still draw pictures and images of JESUS CHRIST in there MAGAZINES. How can you draw someone in a brilliant light not approachable. No man can see, nor ever will

Thinking out loud anyway.

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GB teaching - Gays and Lesbians will be resurrected as Gays and Lesbians

by Listener in

the final talk of the saturday afternoon online convention is given by lett, sporting a creepy looking combover, which for some reason, looks creepier than normal.

he talks about how those resurrected will need to come into line with a new moral code otherwise they will be destroyed.

he uses an example of gay people having to turn away from their inclinations even though they may feel that they are perfectly acceptable.. this demonstrates that the gb feel that being gay is a taught behaviour rather than an imperfect unnatural desire, otherwise they would be growing out of that desire as they develop towards perfection, as they teach.

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A lot of "Watchtower says" in that video. Hardly you see Bible verses quoted to support the talk from start to its finish. Lett was just saying "watchtower says" repeatedly throughout. Who noticed this?.

None about what JEHOVAH says or Jesus says.........its all watchtower says concerning what is in the SCROLL.

JWs cannot do greater work than what Jesus did now. That particular words of Jesus will be fulfilled in the new world.

The Goodness have only been preached for decades not centuries at present time but in the new world it will be preached for centuries. In reality what that mean is JWS are the only one preaching the good news. The total preaching work done by the First century Christians and JWS in total amount to DECADES not CENTURIES.

All knowing and self righteous talk written all over it.

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So according to wt. Doctrine, If you die one day before Armageddon...

by nowwhat? in

you will be resurrected.

but if you live one more day when armageddon starts you will die a horrible death with no chance of a resurrection.

makes sense to me!.

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@waton 😂😂😂😂😂😂

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JW Stumper Questions - List You Best Here

by pale.emperor in

hi guys.

sooner or later we're going to get a jw knocking on our door.

just like when we were jw's doing the knocking, it's good to have a question prepared to get them thinking about their own beliefs.

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What a thread? JWs badmouth those who persecutes individuals who leave their formal religion to join WTBTS

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My letter of disassociation, what do you think?

by James Jack in

dear brothers, july 27, 2020. in 1919, the president of the watchtower society made a bold prediction, “millions now living will never die”.

that quotation was constantly repeated by the organization till the year 2000 when they realized that everyone in attendance at that assembly, who listened to j.r. rutherford repeat those words, are dead.. that teaching has guided my life.

statements were repeatedly made at assemblies, conventions and in print that there was no career in “this system of things” so you don’t need a job with benefits or retirement, your fulltime job is to “preach the good news”!

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DA letter From my own view is giving you all the power. You simply LEFT on your own and there is a document attached to it. @ JJ keep your personal copy of the letter.

Any other member that ask for reason or gossiping around for you LEAVING send him or her back to the elders to retrieve the letter they have with them and read the reasons in there.

If the person said they refuse to hand it out, tell him or her that the letter is your letter not a letter from the GB or branch. Why are they keeping it.

That will instigate the mind that the elders have something to hide. After all when they make there usual announcement, the reasons are not included

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Thoughts on Sunning and blood Doctrines.

by Phizzy in

i have a couple of thoughts on the blood and shunning doctrines, both of which have been covered well before.

here, and on j.w facts.com and elsewhere.. but i would like to point out the following, the only scriptures they can use in reality for their blood doctrine are the verses from acts chapter 15. o.t verse are really out of the question, and dishonest to use on their part, as they do not follow most of the injunctions in there!.

the context of acts 15 is a council of the apostles and others in the jerusalem congregation, to decide what they should ask of gentile christians in the way of behaviours and practices etc, as jewish christians were demanding they comply with the mosaic law, or were, at the very least offended if they did not.

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Still Totally Add. Loool

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Honest assessment of my life

by silent3 in

my old account was silent and i had to create a new account which kind of bums me, but here i am.. over the years i've really experienced some rough times emotionally and spiritually which led me down many paths.

being angry most all of time with a few outbursts really started to make me take stock of what was wrong with me.

further i started really going back and trying to figure out where i went wrong.. so i revisted all my previous posts on here.

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Silent3 said......."I've looked and found no other place in the world that consistently works as hard to produce spiritual information to help us be optimistic.

In reality its still all about the WHERE not the WHOM. While Jesus CRITIC the works and ways of the religious leaders of "JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION" he didn't for ONCE forget the WHOM. His disciples too never FORGET the WHOM?

Silent3 said........I want the best for my wife and family and instead of rolling around in the mire of negativity always finding fault and taking a perpetual negative view on spiritual things,

A very good thing to do in terms of what you want for your family. Concerning the negativity part, a PhD THESIS was shared on this platform how the JW ORG is a SURER ORGANISM that anyone willing to stop some certain BAD HABITS can subject themselves too and I can say they will indeed drop some of those bad habits as long as they continue in SUBJECTION but they will pick up some equally bad ONES along. Part of such is what Ander Andersen highlighted. Read it and read carefully. Your initial NEGATIVITY was BORN from the WHERE.

Silent3 said..........I want to approach things in a positive light where no anti-depressants are required to feel good"

Very nice and watch out for the negativity and continually DEPRESS it.

Silent3 said I wish you all the best and please remember

Another chapter and journey for you.

Silent3 said........it all starts with personal prayer every day and setting some small spiritual goals for yourself. Once you start getting educated on the real life, good things start to happen.

We will love to enjoy some of the education as it concerns REAL LIFE whenever you are free to share.