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  Goodbye to the Board

  by dedalus in

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  2. friends

  im leaving the board, and am compelled to announce it.

  but there are a few things i want to say first -- some recollections that (perhaps incongruously) seem germane to my leave-taking of jw.com.

  1) my first post was also my first thread, written in the summer of 2000 (on h2o, actually).

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  trevor

  I won’t be posting on this forum anymore, won’t even be lurking...

  Dedalus

  By saying that you are leaving and will never post again, you are making a rule for yourself ,which you are now under pressure to keep. If you break the rule you will then have to ask yourself many questions and justify your change of mind. Isn’t that what we tried to get away from?

  What we deny ourselves we end up craving - then energy is used to resist. That energy can work against us and make us want to do the thing we could have stopped, if we had just moved to a state of indifference towards the thing we had once enjoyed.

  You are free to come and go at will, why limit your freedom? I hope you call in now and then.
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  OK believers, time to put up or shut up...

  by Gregor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  apparently, a large percentage of xjw's who post on this site have embraced some other form of god/jesus belief to replace the wt doctrine.

  most of them fall into the "i accept the lord jesus christ as my personal savior" class.

  they are still extremely attached to the old "forgiveness of sin through the shed blood of jc" line.

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  trevor

  But, if you're talking about the possibility that somewhere out there in the great unknown there is an intelligent, all powerful force/being

  You are describing the potentiality that has expressed itself and made all that is potential, possible and manifest. To guide the outcome would be contradictory.

  This ride is the real thing and any outcome is possible. That is what makes life the ultimate adventure.
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  What did YOU do during the downtime?

  by LittleToe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, if i'm not much mistaken jwd was just down for over 24 hours - the longest time i can remember in over four years of posting here.

  these things happen - c'est la vie.. so what did you do during this time?

  did you suffer the dts?

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  trevor

  I went down town to a very nice Chinese lady who is an acupuncturist. It all started out well with her massaging and stroking me but I must have upset her - because the next thing I knew, she was sticking needles in me. Talk about vicious.

  Anyway I ended up having lunch in a wine bar but I was leaking like a watering can. What are these therapists on!
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  What was the first thing Adam said when he set eyes on Eve?

  by ballistic in

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  according to the bible he decided to name her "woman".

  in the previous verses he had been on an exercise to name all the beasts of the field and birds of the air.. personally, if i'd been wandering around a paradise garden on my own for years naming animals and suddenly set eyes on a perfect naked woman, i think i would be inclined to invent the first swear word.. although later, when eve gave birth, adam said it had been "with the lord's help".

  so maybe he wasn't quite as spontaneous as i'd imagined, or maybe adam thought god was serious when he said she was a "helper".

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  trevor

  Hey - I have been wanting to meet another naturist all my life!
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  What sort of forum member are you?

  by greendawn in

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  what kind of a forum member do you consider yourself to be?

  are you trying to be dedicated, helpful to others, humourous, expressive, intellectual, or something else?

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  trevor

  I try to be helpful to others and humourous, but am often irreverent and have become irrelevant.

  I try to be satirical but this sometimes comes over as sarcasm. This is unintentional but my true nature leaks out as it does with all posters.

  Perhaps we give more about ourselves away than we realize?
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  FAMILY OF TERRI CROWE-PERRY

  by Sunnygal41 in

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  2. current

  just in case any of my nephews are lurking here, or their friends, cuz they live in waxahachie, texas, i will not be bullied into coming back to the organization of jehovah's witnesses.

  joshua, alexander, david, this tactic of the jw's is bullshit, and will not work on me.

  i want to be your aunt, but, i want it to be on terms we all can agree on.

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  Sunnygal41

  that only makes me more determined to tell them to stick it where the sun don't shine.

  You are putting up a very brave fight and are determined to not be beaten.

  May I suggest that the way to cope with all this is to step outside of the vortex you are caught up in. Become detached, indifferent, occupied with another dimension of living that has no interest in, or time for people of the Jehovah’s Witness mentality.

  I know it is not easy to stop thinking of them but it is necessary. You must reclaim all the emotion you have invested in them and reinvest elsewhere.
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  How long did it take you to get over it?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  one of the posters here - before i knew she was a poster here - in fact before i knew of this site at all, sent me an email early on in my exit.

  she likened the whole leaving thing with grieving over a dead loved one - said it took most about two years to work thru all the phases of that loss - denial, anger, etc.. i think she had it about right - that's about how long it took me.

  but without jwd it would have been longer.

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  trevor

  Many of you have expressed the, grieving depression and anger process that we as humans go through when we suffer and emotional loss of this magnitude. It does take a few years to ‘get over’ that.

  I don’t thing that we ever ‘get over’ the experience. We will always be different for it, which is the benefit that comes from our experiences in life. If we look back at all the challenges we have faced and overcome on life’s road we can realize that it is those struggles that have made us the complete and mature people that we are.

  Perhaps we adjust to our altered lives and eventually ‘go beyond’ the whole thing. It is then that we can look back and see how far we have come and how much we have grow.

  You are all courageous people. Never underestimate your achievement.
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  Do you believe in perfection?

  by LittleToe in

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  if something meets the standard for which it was designed, is that a reasonable definition of perfection?.

  like when the first rudimentary wheel was built, and was surely perfect for the job?.

  discuss

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  trevor

  My English teacher told me that there was no such thing as perfection because that would mean that there would be no room for improvement. I disagreed with her and said so.

  From a human point of view, which is the only view we have, if something completely fulfils a need, then it is perfect for that moment. There is , such a thing as a perfect moment. Things will continually advance and the process produces many perfect moments and items. Of course, accepting something as perfect is subjective and based on the opinion of the one who makes the judgement.
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  Do you have a motto in life?

  by lovelylil in

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  does anyone out there have any wise words for us to live by?

  a favorite motto?

  please share your wisdom if you don't mind.

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  trevor

  We only have the present moment - anything else is a trick of the mind.
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  Do you think that my college professor is a "racist"?

  by booker-t in

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  i am in a dilema at school that i need some feedback on.

  my geography professor is a young caucasian man in his mid 30's.

  he is very knowlegable about the other countries in the world but he always seem to make negative statements about blacks, hispanics, asians and native americans.

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  'Racist’ is just a label. It is often used by minority groups who want to stop majority groups putting across their point of view. We all have out hangups and I feel that we should be free to vent our feelings, we can then be challenged and debate follows.

  It is through debate that progress is made and opinion are changed. Once censorship is used to make people afraid of speaking their mind the balance in society is lost and people in power are able to manipulate the population. Government is seeking to do this now and unless we resist and insist on open and frank debate about issues that concern us, our freedoms will be lost. We had a belly-full of that in the Jehovah’s Witnesses cult.

  Let the teacher rant, then discuss his views with him. Either he is right or wrong or most likely somewhere in between. He probably enjoys the challenge of defending his views. He will benefit from open debate and so will those that get things out in the open and see it through.

  That is what real education is all about.

  Edited twice due to a superb Rioja!