Posts by trevor

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I'm going to try some hypnotherapy to destroy the JW mindset

by Star tiger in

i got to try something, i know all you great people have commented previously that you've got to do your time working through it, but i need to try for myself a quick answer, i think that because i got into the jw mindset so easily through my parents, that through a hypnotic state i may be able to destroy the damage due to the gb, and begin my life a new, i will give you updates as to the results, peace to you all!.

star tiger.

ps i am glad they do student rates, lol!!

trevor

Star Tiger - Hypnosis is not magic. Hypnotherapy is not the same as stage hypnosis. A competent hypnotherapist will ask what damage you consider the GB has done to you?

What you want your new life to include?

What you are willing to do to achieve those goals?

He or she will listen and help you to be aware of your emotions and what has caused them. Then help you to accept and move on. It takes time and can be both revealing and disturbing. We change when the pain of staying the same is greater than the pain of changing.

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This Years Memeorial and MY heartbreak

by PSacramento in

jw
friends

so...this years memorial came and went.. on saturday my mom called to invite my wife, myself and my two little girls to the memorial on sunday, i said thank you but said that we won't be going.. on sunday my older sister called inviting us also.. we didn't go, since my eldest daughter asked about it, i explaine dit to her and asked my wife and her if they wanted to do it at home and they said yes.. so after dinner, we all partook of our lord's sacrifice and i explained to my daughters how the taking in of christ's body and blood is symbolic for become one with christ and god.. we always remember christ and his sacrifice and last meal whenever we eat and "say grace" but, becuase of the whoel memorial meal thing, we decided to do a little more.. i read from luke and john.. it was very nice, very special.. then this morning at 8:30 am my mom calls and reams me for 40 min over the phone.. why anyone would think that i or anyone else would want to be a part of an organization that fills people with som much venom and spit, is beyond me.. she basically said that she gives up on me, that i am taken by satan, that satan is working through me and leading me and tha her heart is borken for my little girls.. my mother.... my heart is broken, there is a pain in my gut....

trevor

PSacramento

The thing is, your mom is worried about you dying at Armageddon. If you were and atheist, that would be bad enough. But as a Christian you have found an alternative faith. She can’t offer you hope, because you already have your own hope. So her fear and sense of frustration manifests as anger and criticism.

That is how she shows her love, in the hope that her opposition to your decision to not be a JW will change your mind. She loves you and is afraid of losing you.

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God \ Universe

by ballistic in

jw
friends

hi there, i don't claim this is true, it just came to me just now, perhaps you can point out any logical errors etc i've made or any other conclusions?.

.

there may be or may not be a god.. there is definately a universe.. the universe may have been created by god or may have come into existance of it's own accord.. neither the universe nor god can come into existance at a particular point in time as there was no time prior to the universe - it didn't exist.. only at the universe's creation did time begin therefore god never existed for a certain amount of time prior to it.. my conclusion is that god is the universe or the universe has always existed along with god?.

trevor

Wow! That's far out man...

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A reason christs ransom makes no sense to me

by Aussie Oz in

do you remember the old jeff bridges film ''the last starman''?.

basic theme was an extra terestrial energy life transmogrified into a human and impregnated a woman with a seed that would become the savior of humanity.. hollywood is an old hand at using good v evil sort of messages that have ideoligical ties to the bible and the 'need' for mankind to be saved from themselves.. what gets me about this particular film is that the savior to come was there for all humanity.

no conditions were placed on how many from what nations could benefit, nor was salvation only for those who 'believed' or were smart enough to read visions or hidden messages etc.

trevor

You can't just go around forgiving people - that's a Christian thing. The God of the bible was a Jew and insisted on circumcision, the 10 commandments and all that jazz. You got to admit that despite all his faults - he is to die for!

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God \ Universe

by ballistic in

jw
friends

hi there, i don't claim this is true, it just came to me just now, perhaps you can point out any logical errors etc i've made or any other conclusions?.

.

there may be or may not be a god.. there is definately a universe.. the universe may have been created by god or may have come into existance of it's own accord.. neither the universe nor god can come into existance at a particular point in time as there was no time prior to the universe - it didn't exist.. only at the universe's creation did time begin therefore god never existed for a certain amount of time prior to it.. my conclusion is that god is the universe or the universe has always existed along with god?.

trevor

Some good points.

The difficulty arises when we try to nail god down and explain ‘god’ in human terms, as per bible and other holy books. I don’t see 'god' as person. The word ‘god’ has so many negative connotations attached to it that it needs replacing.

The universe is manifest. Before it existed it was un-manifest but the potential for it to be existed. Although as humans, only what is physical is real to us. Potential is not nothing in a universe where all that can exist is contained in it, potential becomes a factor. I see ‘god’ as the un-manifest potential from which the universe has emanated.

This is how I see things but I am willing to be straightened out by greater minds.

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This Years Memeorial and MY heartbreak

by PSacramento in

jw
friends

so...this years memorial came and went.. on saturday my mom called to invite my wife, myself and my two little girls to the memorial on sunday, i said thank you but said that we won't be going.. on sunday my older sister called inviting us also.. we didn't go, since my eldest daughter asked about it, i explaine dit to her and asked my wife and her if they wanted to do it at home and they said yes.. so after dinner, we all partook of our lord's sacrifice and i explained to my daughters how the taking in of christ's body and blood is symbolic for become one with christ and god.. we always remember christ and his sacrifice and last meal whenever we eat and "say grace" but, becuase of the whoel memorial meal thing, we decided to do a little more.. i read from luke and john.. it was very nice, very special.. then this morning at 8:30 am my mom calls and reams me for 40 min over the phone.. why anyone would think that i or anyone else would want to be a part of an organization that fills people with som much venom and spit, is beyond me.. she basically said that she gives up on me, that i am taken by satan, that satan is working through me and leading me and tha her heart is borken for my little girls.. my mother.... my heart is broken, there is a pain in my gut....

trevor

PSacramento

We each have to settle upon our own view of things and find peace in our choice. How those close to us behave is their choice. It is a two way thing. However painful it is to accept the choices our loved ones make, freedom has a price. No price is too high.

I hope you find the happiness you deserve.

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The Lord's Memorial Day

by lovelylil in

jw
friends

* this thread is for the church and not to be used for debating christianity.

i would ask that those who are non-believers please respect the beliefs of others today.

thank you in advance.. for two millenia since christ's death, christians all over the world have been participating in what is known as the the last supper.

trevor

Tammy - just enjoy a glass of red wine and dedicate the occasion to Jesus.

I have no such excuse but will have one anyway - a sort of insurance policy.

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God \ Universe

by ballistic in

jw
friends

hi there, i don't claim this is true, it just came to me just now, perhaps you can point out any logical errors etc i've made or any other conclusions?.

.

there may be or may not be a god.. there is definately a universe.. the universe may have been created by god or may have come into existance of it's own accord.. neither the universe nor god can come into existance at a particular point in time as there was no time prior to the universe - it didn't exist.. only at the universe's creation did time begin therefore god never existed for a certain amount of time prior to it.. my conclusion is that god is the universe or the universe has always existed along with god?.

trevor

ballistic

Your take on things is as good as it gets.

We really don't know any more but being human we are each trapped in our word driven mind. So I expect many more billions of words will be used in an attempt to explain what you have said so concisely.

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Has your anger turned to pity?

by journey-on in

jw
friends

getting through the tough steps toward real freedom from the wts involves a lot of work for some.

many, start out angry that their authentic lives were hampered by a high-control group of men posing as god's organization.

we feel robbed of something we can't quite put our finger on sometimes.

trevor

An interesting question - one which I have answered a number of times on this board. My anger turned to pity but that emotion has also passed. We are each ultimately responsible for the views and attitudes we sustain for the long term.

I have accepted the path that rank and file Jehovah’s Witnesses have, for the present, have decided to walk.They too have had to accept my path. Regrettably those paths no longer cross. It has been a long journey but I have arrived at ‘acceptance’ without blame or recrimination.

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Listening to your "inner voice" lecture in college

by Coffee House Girl in

so i'm taking a business law course & this week the professor is off on a tagent about listening to your inner voice & the formula for life,.

1. be honest & ethical and work hard..then.

2. watch the opportunties come your way.

trevor

Good to hear from you Coffee House Girl, and know that things are working out for you. We all have an inner voice that guides us, often through feelings. We have our inborn instincts but also instincts based on what we have absorbed through our experience. Our inner voice becomes more reliable if we have taken in correct information.