Interesting how the image of the squatting 'brother' cleaning the scuz out of the KH toilet is immediately followed by another of JWs preaching at the door of a householder. Are the filmmakers trying to make a metonymic connection there of some sort?
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This is the freakiest thing I've ever seen
by just n from bethel inhttp://www.jwbrothers.org/videos/1684/.
title edited, per posting guidelines.
scully.
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Teavana (.com). They have lovely teas in many varieties. It's tea nirvana.
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Who will struggle in 2011? The Uneducated (and those with Awake! degrees)
by truman indespite the watchtower's drumbeat of anti-higher education rhetoric, they are tragically misguiding their followers about the relationship between a college education and job prospects.
i ran across this tidbit in my internet travels:.
who will struggle in 2011http://finance.yahoo.com/news/who-will-struggle-in-usnews-1712944905.html?x=0.
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Yeah, that degree from the Awake! university looks real good on a resume. Not.
I agree that being poor CAN teach valuable lessons to those who are willing to learn. I have learned a few that way. Learning to desire less of the consumer products that lead many to a long-term ride on the debt merry-go-round can be good for the individual and maybe for the planet as well. Being frugal is a good old-fashioned value, as I see it.
The education issue, on the other hand, is about much more than simply putting oneself in a position to have a better income (although that is no small concern for families trying to get by in a depressed economy). Education is not just about acquiring job skills, but about learning to use the tools of critical thinking.
As I see it, the WT org. fears losing people’s theocratically beclouded minds to critical thinking much more than it worries about losing their bodies to well-paying jobs. Nevertheless, demanding they be uneducated and poor keeps them dependent and needy for an emotional anchor, and the WTS is happy to put one around their necks with a heavy chain.
@ Alfred: That elder you describe sounds like he will be an ex-jw soon.
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Who will struggle in 2011? The Uneducated (and those with Awake! degrees)
by truman indespite the watchtower's drumbeat of anti-higher education rhetoric, they are tragically misguiding their followers about the relationship between a college education and job prospects.
i ran across this tidbit in my internet travels:.
who will struggle in 2011http://finance.yahoo.com/news/who-will-struggle-in-usnews-1712944905.html?x=0.
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Despite the Watchtower's drumbeat of anti-higher education rhetoric, they are tragically misguiding their followers about the relationship between a college education and job prospects. I ran across this tidbit in my internet travels:
Who Will Struggle in 2011
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Who-Will-Struggle-in-usnews-1712944905.html?x=0
"The undereducated. The value of education has never been clearer. The unemployment rate for people who never graduated high school is 15 percent--depression-level joblessness. For high-school grads with no college, unemployment is 10.4 percent, and for college grads it's just 4.9 percent. Unskilled or low-skilled jobs in manufacturing, construction, and other fields will return slowly, if at all, since many of them can be outsourced to other countries where labor costs are lower. That makes education the single-biggest determinant of career success."
Such information does not mean that a motivated and talented person who lacks a college degree cannot be successful. My own son, who was raised as a JW and homeschooled by me, has worked his way up from forklift driver to a management position in his company's IT department. The WTS gets no credit for his achievement, however. He left at the end of his teens (and opened the door for my own exit). He has a quick mind and has worked very hard. And he had a boss who recognized talent and gave him a chance.
Still, most who follow the WT's plan for minimum education and subsistence employment will be struggling in 2011 and beyond. I have another son who is still a JW (and just as quick-minded as his brother). His situation is much less rosy--and, sadly, inclined to stay that way.
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Special Assembly: CO admits the grip is tightning.....
by yourmomma inwhat im about to post is the exact words from the co during the last talk of the most recent special assembly day.
even though im out i still try to keep up with what is being said just cause i find it interesting, and alot of stuff i find funny, but this stuff is starting to get scary, and i fear for my friends who are still in.
here are the exact words:.
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I just listened to the section where the speaker condemns college as worthless for getting a job. Wow! It seems to me that he is being very, sneaky about what he is saying there. He says that in 2009, only 19.7% of college grads in the U.S. “got a job.” The other 80% are, according to him, “flipping burgers.” Is that not a job? Maybe not a great one, but it is a job.
He betrays his duplicity in his own words when he throws away this quick qualification for his statistics: “in their field.” It seems he is trying to take a stat that shows many college grads not finding employment in their fields and paint all these people as completely unemployed.
Furthermore, he words his diatribe in such a way that it seems to apply to ALL college graduates in the U.S. in 2009, not just those who graduated that year. And where is his evidence for the mass hiring of college graduates by MacDonald’s and Burger King to flip their burgers? The whole speech is a mass of deceitful rhetoric full of logical fallacies and misinformation.
As for me, I am a person who graduated with a BA in 2009, and I am employed in my field—part time, but that is because I am in graduate school working on my master’s degree. When I finish it, I expect to be able to find the level of work I want in my field. And I am an English major.
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The Emerging Internet God
by metatron inlet me explain................. there is an old joke that directs us to consider what the future will be .
a bunch of scientists create the greatest computer of all time, containing all human knowledge.
they ponder what to do with it.
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@ Besty
Are you asking about memes? They are cultural particles, mind viruses, thought genes, and other various socially transmitted information that is replicated and propagated through social interaction. When people only contact a small groups of others in a lifetime, transmission is limited. Mass communication speeds up and amplifies transmission. The internet and cyberspace offer cultural bits and ideas unlimited storage and instant transmission. I am just asking how long before the internet is talking to itself and the human users are beside the point.
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The Emerging Internet God
by metatron inlet me explain................. there is an old joke that directs us to consider what the future will be .
a bunch of scientists create the greatest computer of all time, containing all human knowledge.
they ponder what to do with it.
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This internet god may already be an oracle, but what will be wrought when it wants to be a creator or a destroyer of worlds?
As for me, I tend to worry that the memes are about to evolve from their dependence upon biological repositories and leave us behind
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A Lesson Missed: What One Man Can Do
by metatron ini am amazed at the events surrounding wikileaks.
it is amusing too, to see an old plot device in fiction now brought to bear on national governments - 'kill me and information will be released automatically'.
this is not to say i approve of everything julian assange has done - but i think it is possible it could have a profound good effect on world peace ( believe it or not!).
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I was just thinking of the uncanny parallel between the reaction of the U.S. gov't to the documents leaked/released by wikileaks and the reaction of the WTS to the leak of their confidential document, the new elder's book. Both reacted in alarm, threatened legal sanctions, and clampled down, or tried to clamp down, on the sources of dissemination. The information wants to be free, but those whose power is threatened by that freedom sure do not want it. The wikileaks docs by themselves are unlikely to be the ruin of the U.S. government anymore than R. Franz's book or the distribution of the elder's manual will topple the WTS. What scares them though is the loss of control over their 'own' information.
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strange comment from elder at the meeting today
by Evidently Apostate intodays watchtower was especially nauseating but during the study one of them made the comment concerning the big a " jehovahs timetable is not contingent on all nations being saturated by the good news".
the study conductor reafirmed his point and then continued.. wait a fuggin minute!
there are 1.4 billion chinese on the earth and only 40 million profess christianity.
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At a talk I remember from a number of years ago, probably in the 1980s, I heard a Bethel speaker offer an explanation for the lack of WT/JW success in Asian countries by calling upon John 21: 3-11.
That tells that after Jesus’ death, Peter went fishing all night but caught nothing. Then the resurrected Jesus came and told them to cast their nets on the other side of the boat, where they caught “multitudes” of fish.
Supposedly that means that some fishing spots are just empty, but Jesus knows where the fish really are—in the Western nations, of course. So then, all you JW fishers of men, stop worrying about preaching to all those Chinese and Indians. God knows they aren’t going to listen anyway. Just keep knocking on doors where Jesus (the GB) tells you.
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Video of Public Talk
by Pig infor those interested in jehovahs witnesses or those wanting to return to the kindom hall, this video is to give you a realistic look at what goes on at the meetings.
enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxmjm0muvvs.
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I must say, that was brilliant.