AMNESIAN - will your own husband be attending the Memorial again this year?
gingerbread
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Memorial Attendance: The Single Most Impactful TTATT "Witness" to Family and Friends
by AMNESIANO inanyone who has awakened to ttatt and conscientiously left the organization--especially a once-prominent individual from a prominent multi-generational tribe of jws-- after decades of devout, high-profile "serve-us," who continues to put in an annual appearance at the memorial thoroughly subverts and undermines, by this one act, any hope s/he may entertain that his/her departure will stir family or former friends to question the whole watchtower bamboozle.
by this one concession s/he assigns him-/herself by every single jw to their handy and dimissive purgatory: the "spiritually-weak.".
nothing blasts a louder, clearer, and more deliberate message to the jws who personally knew you and those familiar with your jw bona fides that you are not merely "not making the meetings" or "spiritually-weak" but that there is a conscientious reason you have rejected the entire watchtower society life than choosing to forego what they know you know to be their one-and-only holy and sacred event of the year, the lord's evening meal.
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This years Memorial talk outline
by gingerbread inperhaps i've missed seeing it.... can anyone provide a scan or link to the 2014 memorial talk and the following sunday's public 'special talk'?.
ginger.
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gingerbread
Bump.
Anyone ??
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Is it normal to feel you have betrayed your spouse when you learn TTATT?
by BU2B ini am trying to look at it from a believing mates perspective.
they married you as a jw expecting you to continue as one.
if you have kids, she enjoyed the stability of both spouses being united.. when you learn ttatt, you find out the wt is a dangerous mind control group and lies to its members and is hypocritical.
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gingerbread
Once you accept the fact that the 'Governing Body' members are not being used by Jesus, are not anointed with a future as heavenly kings/judges and that the organizations beliefs are based on fallacious premises and distorted conjecture, you'll feel betrayed by the Watchtower Society.
You then realize that you no longer answer to them - you don't have to and you won't.
Your lives are in your hands. And that's a good thing!
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Watchtower cover models
by Laika inthe jws have a cart at the train station near my work and today they're featuring the april watchtower and awake magazines.. have you seen these yet?
have the society discovered the worldly technique of using attractive cover models to sell their products or something?
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gingerbread
I haven't thought about this in years...
A sister was featured - with photos - in an Awake a few years ago. My brother 'dated' her when they were in their late teens. One night - past midnight - I had the mistaken opportunity to catch sight of them on the deck outside. She was topless...and they were real.
What a FINE example!
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Anyone going to the memorial this year?
by Pyramid God ini was invited by my parents, and even though i have nothing but contempt for this religion, things have been good in our relationship so i was considering going just to appease them.
anyone else?.
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gingerbread
We will. The kids aren't. Going to sit with the in-laws. We haven't walked into the hall for a few months. And Mr. Ginger has a beard.
Should be interesting....
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Gerritt Loesch life story .... Total hypocrisy
by Skinnedsheep inas written in the july 15 2014 wt.
what gerrit used to believe and teach.... the roman catholic teaching of apostolic succession claims that there is an unbroken succession of popes in a line extending all the way back to the apostle peter.
(the church misinterprets jesus words that are quoted at matthew 16:18, 19.
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gingerbread
I just finished reading this article on JW.org.
What a grand delusion he weaves - and believes. It's the age old JW story of a single 'worldly' guy who hears the 'truth' and decides to devote his whole life to the organization.
How many times have we heard the stories of sleeping with out any heat, trudging through snow at night to use the outhouse, relying on the 'brothers' to support you - all sacrifices in order to pioneer. If you tell a line of b.s. enough, you'll eventually believe it.
The comment that he didn't take a taxi to the brother's home - where he'd be staying while 'serving' the congregation - and walked instead because he didn't want to appear uppity ... I think I just gagged a little.
I'm suprised his arm isn't broken ... after patting himself on the back so much!
ginger
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Reverse Witnessing - Will NEVER work!
by MissConfused inits been a while since i spoke up.
after a lot of 'tactful' questioning, i have come under the conclusion that witnessing ttatt with dubs will never work.
there is nothing called reasoning with them.
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gingerbread
Pick your battles wisely. Be patient. Show them - by your example - that a person can be happy, content, positive and productive without the Kingdom Hall.
ginger
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What is the point of Judicial Committees??
by quellycatface ini've had 2 jc's, both resulted in reproof.. but.....in church, the vicar asks us do reflect quitely on anything that we have done that we're not happy about and to ask for forgiveness in our heart.
knowing that jesus will forgive us, if we are sorry and have faith in him.
good.
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gingerbread
It is used under the guise of 'readjusting' a person through love using the scriptures as the source of encouragement.
Anyone who has ever been involved (on both sides of the table) in a judicial investigation or committee know that is a lie.
It was established to 'keep the congregation clean' - meaning to expel any who continue to break God's laws : as pre-determined by the Watchtower Society.
Disfellowshipping is the worse thing that can happen to a Jehovah's Witness. It destroys everything.
The Judicial actions are a public display of power and control - and public humiliation of anyone who has broken the 'rules'. An elder that keeps a relative or friend out of a judicial committee is also a way to demonstrate power and control - over the other elders.
ginger
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I don't find this stuff amusing anymore
by sparrowdown ini would just like to get this off my chest.. during the public talk last sunday the speaker (bro holden m'groin) said in public talk: .
" if you ask any 16yr old girl what she wants out of life, she would probably say a home, a family etc etc" (because obviously this is still 1955).. anyway that got my attention i thought " hmm....where is he going with this?"..
bro holden m'groin goes on .
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gingerbread
This kind of self-righteous 'preachin' confirms the bias that good Jehovah's Witnesses are better than everyone else in town.
The facts prove otherwise.
And any woman who comes into 'the Truth' with a sketchy past will always be looked down upon.
ginger
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I made my daughters cry last night.....
by Ugottabefresh in...when i told them i didn't believe anymore.
they cried like i'd never seen before.
my oldest, 10, pleaded with me that she'd do anything to get me to keep going to meetings ("i'll get a's on my report card!").
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gingerbread
Pick your battles wisely.
And be honest with yourself - treat your children like you would have liked to be treated at their age. If they ask about how babies are born you wouldn't go straight to explaining how forceps are used or the risks of an epidural or how the doctor performs an episiotomy.
If you're mad at the Org. or "the kid's mother", don't use the kid as a pawn.
Just some 'motherly' advice...
ginger