Posts by sOOner

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"Hi Mom, this is your 'wake-up call.'

by TuningFork in

i'm coming in here this morning because even though i am learning not to be a victim in this shunning experience "again," i do have feelings and am very sad this morning.

you see, usually about every two weeks or so (at least), i would call my mom early in the morning and say, "hi mom, this is your wake-up call.

" little did i know just how much energy was carried in that message.

sOOner

My sister,

yes,we have cried enough tears and this has raked us to the core of our being.I also feel in my heart that mama may someday really see the "TRUTH" for what it is.A bunch of fundy dums ruleing her excistence by brainwashing her in to beliefs that are not even in the bible.Well,maybe the NWT but not the KJB.I went through many emotions concerning this...behaved in a not so loving way.I was angry that once again we are barred from her life and she from ours.I want to call and say mama "I really DO understand"When someone tells you that a GB has said that you will risk your very life in a paradise if the RULES are not followed...what choice is given.

Your loved ones or God.

Now read that sentence again...BRAINWASHED is the only word that comes to mind.

It only makes me sad for her,it does not change my LOVE for her.

Your words were encourageing to me as always~

sOOner

13

Starry Starry Night....

by TheSurvivor in

how many people here have had close friends or aquaintances in the truth take their own life?

i know that this may be a very deep subject, and i do not mean to dredge up bad memories, but i just ran across the lyrics to vincent aka starry starry night.

it was the first time that i ever actually read the words and it made me think of the jw friends that i have lost due to suicide.

sOOner

Survivor...

I have always loved that picture Starry Night by Vincent.The words to the song makes one think.

I have often thought that it took a weak minded person to take there own life,but NOW I think it takes in Reality a very strong person in a weak moment to end there life.

Those left behind can only imagine the depths of despair one must feel when they by there own hand take that last journey.

Into the UNKNOWN...

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ANYONE JOINED A NEW RELIGION?

by Mary in

jw
friends

for those who have left the organization, have any of you gone to another church?

or did being a jw simply turn you off religion altogether.

i feel i would like to still belong to a religious group (that's just in my personality) but of course, i would feel really guilty at first going in to "babylon the great".

sOOner

My very own inner heart religion

I~H~R

Didn't exactly join,been a part of me all along

I was never very adapt at taking orders

unless I was getting paid well:)

sOOner

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My mommy doesn't want me. . I need a hug

by StinkyPantz in

i sent my mom a letter not too long ago telling her that i wanted my family back.

well, i got a very unexpected response.

she basically said "no".

sOOner

My life has been in a void of sorts since the recent shunning.

I have come to this point...

I will love my mama to the end

Whether it be her end or my end

Does it really matter?

We are in different places

I do not begrunge her space

I can only imagine her pain

on shunning her 3 daughters hearts

I encircle with Love everyone that is feeling the pain of being shunned

May our hearts understand

and mend

sOOner

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Disfellowshipping Changes

by UnDisfellowshipped in

jw
friends

paraphrase of the watchtower 1955, page 607:.

quote from the watchtower august 1st 1974 issue, page 465:.

quote from the watchtower august 1st 1980 issue, page 19:.

sOOner

This thread has brought much closure too me.I have recently been shunned and I can only feel empathy for my dear mama.She has been pulled once more through the mire of what the GB says...in retrospect I am thankful for the almost 10 years we had as almost REAL blood mama and daughter.She showed me love and shared meals with me,we shopped together.I stayed in her home on yearly visits.This is after being totally shunned from 81-93.She must be so confused and so afraid she has displeased her Jehovah.My heart actually aches for her.

sOOner

20

My First Rock Concert....

by TheSurvivor in

now in my 40's i went to my first and most probably last rock concert last night.

i took the wife and kids (if you can still call them that with the youngest taller than me) to see the "motor city madman....ted nugent.

i guess that i am just not the rock and roll type.

sOOner

IMHO R&R is Rock and Roll~

Personally my druthers were Sex~Drugs~and Rock&Roll

Of course I have passed the need to sedate myself with drugs.

If you can't FEEL you have nothing to feel guilty about~

(as in NOT being a dutiful JW)

It has a whole new meaning to JW's~ R&R (Rest and Recuperate)

Your strengths are needed for future recruits

I loved concerts.

I was trampled,drugged and otherwise had a blast.

sOOner

23

I am new to this site.... I wish to tell my story.

by Cyn in

my name is cynthia... i have had depression as a child ( undiagnosed ) father was possibly bipolar and mother is depressive both undiagnosed.....my journry into the org along with how the depression became a mental breakdown , which i thought was jehovah removing his spirirt.

my sruggle with the elders......and the many ways and people i sought help from.....well it is all a long story......... included in it.

jws i have known with mental health issues.......breakdowns.......psych docs have had discussed this with........ i would like to relate my story.....i was so ill..nearly catotonic i did not go to a hospital but if i relate how i felt.........it was clear...... how i was afraid of crossing the street because the green light may have been really a red light and i was told so often by the elders that my thinking was wrong...... ie " they were showing love by isolating me ( a depressed person) because i needed to be active and i was not complying..they said they tried ll that they coudl when in reality it was i always i that reached out to them ( thinking they were chosen of god)...... well..i just gave a sampler....my story is very long...i have been tenatious i read so much ( even before becoming a jw ) about depression and dysfunctional families... i was a teacher did not gte my ma ..people here know why i am sure..... well...before i write this story of mine...i would like to ask..if i can do it in intallments........those i relate my story to say i should write a book..........i am not " out of the woods yet".........by the way.......i came to the point that i could not leave my room..... i live in nyc and i was able to speak to bethel elders including g. gangus.... i was very sincere......naive idealistic.............i asked qiestions thinking that surly god understood ...that my motives were good... .

sOOner

Greetings and welcome Cynthia...

We share a given name and many similiar situations.Life's journey's can only be well written in installments.<G>

After all everything in our life didn't happen in one day.

We are the product of "The Days of Our Lives"

I am interested in your life's journey.

sOOner

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Great News! and...Old Memories

by Sentinel in

my husband's oldest son just made his dad a grandpa again.

this time a boy.

hubby took off work today and has been over to the hospital to see him twice already, once by himself this morning and then later today he took caitlyn to see her little brother for the first time.

sOOner

Sis,

just looking into the eyes of a newborn child makes all the difference in the world.Someone new to love and hold.Someone to share your uniqueness with.

Seth is a lucky fellow to have a grandma like you...

may all the pain you felt today and tears you cried like rain~ bring a tomorrow filled with sunshine and rainbows

Your,

Sis>C /sOOner

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How Many Here Have Been Shunned?

by Reborn2002 in

jw
friends

as most of you already know, the jehovah's witnesses are covering an article in their august kingdom ministry to be discussed the weeks of 8/19 and 8/26 which details how they are to shun and avoid those who are no longer members of their organization, even immediate family members.. .

undoubtedly this article has been written to reinforce to the rank&file jehovah's witnesses the shunning policy, so as to tighten the ranks and prevent members from having the opportunity to learn the abundant contradictions and hypocrisies found within watchtower doctrine and practice from any who may have left.. this policy also serves to divide families and attempt to shame or abuse those whom have chosen to no longer be jehovah's witnesses, for whatever reason.. that much is obvious.

in recent days this topic has been discussed in detail in various threads.

sOOner

D'fs twice,still can't believe that myself.I was FREE and went back because my mama convinced me that my daughters blood was on me.That didn't last long.I was shunned by my sisters,and had little contac with my mama and dad and younger brother.I moved across country and found new friends that treated me as family.

I am presently being shunned by my mama.My sisters are either disassociated or d'fs.We are closer then we have ever been in our entire lives.

It is as if she has died...

that is how she wants it,or rather how the society has brainwashed her to believe it has to be.

So much for uncondtional love...

I pray with good intent for her as always

she gave me the gift of life

I miss her laughter,her silly and cute sayings,brushing her hair,plucking her eyebrows...

I remember Mama

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A Week Later; I'm Still Confused.......

by Sentinel in

well, it's been one week since mom called to tell me that she is reverting back to a previous behavior from 1981, called "hard line shunning".

this is after some ten years now, of having communication with me in a restrictive manner.

(well, as "normal" as it could be for us anyway.

sOOner

Hi Sis,

yes,I am also feeling very out of sorts.Like a water facet that has been turned off and on once too many times and now is just dry.It makes you wonder just how long a person will continue to allow that gun at there heads.I mean next year this time and no end has come,what then mama???

we can only hope and intend that she realises the gun is not really loaded...

that man cannot judge

and that light divine comes from within not from without.

The pain I feel on losing my mother's love is nothing in comparison to the feelings I experienced on 9 11 the first anniversary.

The unity amidst the destruction was undeniable.

There is always Hope...

Love will remain as long as we allow compassion in our hearts.

and faith in our tomorrow's

in the end there was no beginning and in the beginning no end.

seems we are in between...