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  Paul belived paradise was heaven

  by DS211 in

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  now i want all to add whatever they want to.

  i was just reading the bible reading for tonights meeting and started 2 cor 12...and what i noticed was that paul here is revealing something, a revelation or vision of sorts, here it says (and its from the nwt for lurkers).

  12 i have to boast.

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  Why does it matter what Paul said?

  He was not a prophet. He was a Jewish historian.

  That is what turned me off to religion. It is all about, Paul said, Peter said, James, John, Jesus, etc.

  They said something 2 thousand years ago. now what?
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  The worst thing to have pride in

  by Rattigan350 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i really hate it when kids on interviews on meetings or assemblies and they state with pride that they turned down the piece of cake or brownie or other birthday treat at school.

  is that something to really be proud of?

  it is not as if the teacher is tempting them.

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  I really hate it when kids on interviews on meetings or assemblies and they state with pride that they turned down the piece of cake or brownie or other birthday treat at school. Is that something to really be proud of? It is not as if the teacher is tempting them. If you give up loyalty to your God, you can have this cake. Teacher is not focusing on God at all. It is a case of parents telling them something and they follow it.
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  Why do you think they changed their mind on organ transplants?

  by Separation of Powers in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  from 1967 to early 1980, the watchtower stated that organ transplants were tantamount to "cannibalism.

  " then, suddenly, the position was changed to organ transplants being a "conscience matter.

  " so, my question, why the change?

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  Because there was never a change. What was written in 1967 was Fred Franz' personal pet project, not official doctrine (though some believe it to have been. That got published because everyone rubber stamped what Fred wrote. But notice that it never got taught again because after that in 1970, the governing body was formulated and expanded, so it was more that Fred Franz.
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  Who is your favorite "Apostate"? Who helped you see the truth about "The Truth"?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i would have to say that ray franz was the biggest influence for me.. when i first got on this board, a poster by the name of james, a former bethelite and organization heavy, helped me understand a lot of the inner workings in the upper echelons of the society.. .

  and of course, farkel's common sense approach was (usually) helpful..

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  It is the self-centeredness of the organization that did it or me and also the cult following mentality of the people.
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  This gave me a good laugh

  by Rattigan350 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i remembered the name of a pioneer sister i knew from the mid 80s.. i looked her up on facebook.

  i found her under her maiden name as she was married when i knew her.. however she is now married to a patricia and is a lesbian and has exjw links on her page.. an expioneer,exjw now lesbian.

  that's just great.

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  I remembered the name of a pioneer sister I knew from the mid 80s.

  I looked her up on Facebook. I found her under her maiden name as she was married when I knew her.

  However she is now married to a Patricia and is a lesbian and has exjw links on her page.

  An expioneer,exJW now lesbian. That's just great. One less pioneer Witness out there.
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  WHAT REASON DOES THE GOVERNING BODY HAVE TO DENY JESUS MEDIATOR-SHIP FOR EVERYONE?

  by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  aguest, jehovah-jirah, lars58, rick fearon, finkle, or another scholars on jwn.

  what reason does the governing body have for telling.

  seven million jehovah's witnesses, "jesus is not your man dude!

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  Because the fact is that he is not the mediator for all. Jesus is the mediator of the new covenant for the 144,00 only. Not a GB doctrine, but a biblical one.

  Prologos said "The new covenant mediated by Jesus covers all Christians, not just the 144 ooo sealed ones that COME OUT OF the twelve tribes."

  Well, yes, the new covenant covers all Christians, but that does not mean Jesus mediates it with all Christians.
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  My Wife Cheated On Me

  by Samnyamz in

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  What does that mean "cheated on me"? You were playing cards and she had one hidden up her sleeve?
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  Prayers that God answers. Any examples?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i believed in god i tried not to pray for anything selfish.. after a while i began to think that a lot of things i was asking my imaginary friend in the sky for were selfish for some reason.. i do not ever remember a single thing i prayed for ever being answered.

  if there was the appearance of an answer it was because i did mental gymnastics to make it fit the delusion that god had actually answered me.

  there was never an obvious message/answer from god.

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  I needed postage stamps. prayed and prayed for them.

  My wife wanted me to mail some memorial invitations to not at homes. When I got to the post office, I didn't put the stamps she gave me on the letters, but kept them and took off as many stamps as I could without messing them up and recycled the letters.

  Jehovah provided me with stamps that I needed for something useful.
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  Did you feel pushed into pioneering?

  by Xanthippe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i have been replying to letters from a jw friend who suddenly started writing to me after i've been out for nearly 25 years.. i have mentioned things like the poverty that pioneering causes from my own experience, worrying about having enough money to buy food.. i also said that the scrimping would have been worth it if we had been saving to buy a home or go on lovely holidays.. instead we ended up with nothing materially and we were living in a tiny rented flat when we left.. when i think of all the places i wanted to visit with my husband but couldn't because we were pioneering and had no money and now it is too late because my husband has died at the age of 54. we did get to visit some beautiful places but we ran out of time.. what i was trying to say to her was - life's too short.

  stop waiting for the new system, get on with your life.

  stop exhausting yourself in that religion.

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  Many people say that work takes them from pioneering. What if one were to get an inheritance, or win the lottery (without admitting it). People will say that they should pioneer. I say no way.
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  Did the Apostle Paul teach and believe in the "bodily reserrection of Christ" doctrine?

  by booker-t in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i often encounter trinitarians that say all of the apostles believed in the bodily reserrection of christ.

  they often point to isolated verses in the bible where jesus is called a "man" after his reserrection and this they believe is proof positive.

  the seem to throw out all of the verses in the new testament that shows jesus arose "in the spirit" (1 pet 3:18).

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  This whole bodily resurrection makes no sense. They just take things literally too much without thinking.

  How could he take his body to heaven? When asked that they say it is a glorifed body.