It is a lot less complicated to get a bill through congress and passed than it is for someone to get appointed.
Rattigan350
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New BOE Letter Re. Elders/MS Appointments and Deletions
by XBEHERE infrom the wording of the letter it seems that the co has been given carte blanche with appointments and deletions.
nowhere in the letter does it indicate that any records are sent to and from the co to the branch office.
even if a body wants to delete an appointed brother and he disagrees his only recourse would be to write a "brief" letter to the service dept.
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The GB gives awakened JW's 2 choices.
by BU2B inthis is classic damned if you do, damned if you dont.. the choice is.
1. be a hypocrite.
i just came to the realization that those of us still in and who know ttatt have only 2choices.
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Rattigan350
BU2B said "
Post 1242 of 1248 Joined 6/29/2012 My problem with that BluesBrother is in my case, if I stopped meetigs, my parents would demand answers, my wife would demand answers and she can tell when I lie alot of the time."
What happens if one says "It is a complete waste of time going to meetings and Field service. I'd rather do yard work,clean the house or make money".
Nothing to do with doctrines, just ain't got time for that stuff anymore. Would the elders arrange for ones in the congregation to help with household tasks if that were presented?
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CONGREGATION FLEECING RESULTS?
by The Searcher inhow much did your congregation and its bank account get taken for?
share your horror story!.
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Rattigan350
I looked at the accounts report at the meeting. The congregation donated a total of $3310. The amount to the KH, AH fund is $1045. That may be around the amount of the prior mortgage. Still alot. If there are 100 peope in the congregation that is about $33 per person.
The best thing to hurt the org is a recession.
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Does consciousness end with the death of the body
by givemejustalittlemoretime inapparently, the carvakas in anceint hinduism were materialists and skeptics, arguing that consciousness ends with the death of the body and that therefore we should take pleasure in this life while we possess it and practice compassion toward others.
they also argued that direct observation is the only certain way to know anything, and thus the existence of supernatural forces and realities cannot be established and must be rejected.
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Rattigan350
Yes, consciousness ends at death. Otherwise where would it exist since it exists in our brains.
That's the problem with this belief in people become spirits beings. Without brains, where does their
memories exists? How can they see if light goes through their eyes? How an they hear?
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Why Do JWs Think Bankruptcy Is Not Wrong? Does Pioneering Blot out Theft?
by BucketShopBill ini mentioned a few elders on one of the highest viewed judicial committee videos filed bk, one of them has done it 3 times and feels no remorse!
my post is not to attack people who really need to avail themselves of a legal process because bad things happen to good people.
the economic climate had and can change radically!
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Rattigan350
I filed bankruptcy. Had a small business that when the economy dropped, revenue dropped. Debts were still there. Expensive equipment that had no resale value. Pioneering wife that spends too much and does not work. She once made the comment that we will never get ahead in this system. System my A&&. It is her irresponsibility.
As for a moral obligation to pay it back. Credit card companies get bk filing as a big writeoff. They are still eating and having heat and are still uncaring corporations.
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Commenting At The Meetings---Did You Enjoy It?
by minimus inwas that important for you?
most people, i believe, forced themselves to give an answer.
i knew many elders and servants over the years being counseled because they rarely answered.. funny thing....my mom who is 88 cries if she doesn't give a comment.
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Rattigan350
I liked to comment when I could only use my own thoughts and not use material from the paragraph.
If it were a repeat of the paragraph, what was the point in commenting?
The problem I had was I could not keep it under 30 seconds, and I couldn't comment without people getting upset and thinking that I was too independent.
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Rattigan350
Someone should alter it to where Hitler comes back, or Adam and Eve come back.
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How many things did you toss out in the name of Jehoover
by love2Bworldly ini had a flash back yesterday.
my non jw husband and i went to disneyland and bought my young daughter a set of 7 dwarf toys.
after a few months i felt guilty and threw them away, thinking they were demonized.
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Rattigan350
Most important possession - self confidence.
Growing up I always felt inferior, shy and ashamed.
Good jobs with more money.
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'Jehovah's Kingdom' convention banner
by undercover inmaking the rounds on facebook is a snapshot of some jws holding a huge banner from the upper deck at a convention.
it says, "jehovah's kingdom" and underneath a crudely drawn download 'bar' with the number 99% on the right side, as if to say in computer lingo, jah's day is almost here.
behind are other dubs holding up smaller placards, but i can't remember what they said.. is this a wt sanctioned or approved action?
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Rattigan350
My wife told me that there were apostates with signs across the street from the Georgia Dome. I didn't see them.
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Please help me destroy the logic of October 2014 Conversation With a Neighbor.
by kneehighmiah inhttp://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20141001/gods-kingdom-prophecy-1/.
this has got to be a joke.
anyone with half a brain would destroy the logical fallicies in this article.
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Rattigan350
You can't destroy the logic of the kingdom starting rule in 1914 because it is logical.
2 Samuel 7
(Thisi s one scripture that shows that true prophets can be wrong. "Nathan replied to the king: “Go and do whatever is in your heart, for Jehovah is with you ". Nathan was wrong.)
12 When your days come to an end+ and you are laid to rest with your forefathers, then I will raise up your offspring* after you, your own son,* and I will firmly establish his kingdom.+ 13 He is the one who will build a house for my name,+ and I will firmly establish the throne of his kingdom forever.+ 14 I will become his father, and he will become my son.+ When he does wrong, I will reprove him with the rod of men and with the strokes of the sons of men.*+ 15 My loyal love will not be taken away from him the way I took it away from Saul,+ whom I removed from before you. 16 Your house and your kingdom will be secure forever before you; your throne will be firmly established forever.”’
But yet David's kingdom was not secure forever. His offspring lost its sovereignty at 607 when Jehoiakim was made a vassel king of Babylon. And Jesus came and went but never took the throne. Something must have changed. That is where Daniel 4 comes in. The kingdom was paused for 2520 years from 607 to 1914.
This teaching preceeded Russell. It was Barbour that messed up the timetable. Not everything that is from the Bilble and Russellites adopted is wrong.
The issue is: Does the establishment of the kingdom in heaven require a cult like group? Why does the kingdom require 100 years of satan's having earth as a playground, which is contrary to God being love.