Posts by Rattigan350

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The best argument that we have an immaterial part (called Spirit/Soul) came from Jesus Christ

by abiather in

the best argument that we have an immaterial part (called spirit/soul) came from jesus christ.

however, it is recorded in the gospel of thomas (not in the traditional four gospels).

jesus says: if the flesh came into existence because of the spirit, it is a marvel.

Rattigan350

Is that the best that can be done? A quote from a non-canon book?

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Counting service time in a creative way

by nevaagain in

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couting time and, how to count time while doing as little service as possible is often a hot topic around witnesses.

i even overheard pioneers discussing about it.

they call it "creative time counting" (i translated that phrase from a different language so bear with me ;-).

Where is Charles Sinutko now?

by moggy lover in

does anyone have any news about charles sinutko, who give the infamous "stay alive till '75" talk?

forty years have passed since then, so is he still alive and still with the watchtower?

anyone heard anything?.

Rattigan350

Honesty: That info is wrong. He did not die in 2003. He gave talks after that.

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Who is your favorite "Apostate"? Who helped you see the truth about "The Truth"?

by minimus in

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i would have to say that ray franz was the biggest influence for me.. when i first got on this board, a poster by the name of james, a former bethelite and organization heavy, helped me understand a lot of the inner workings in the upper echelons of the society.. .

and of course, farkel's common sense approach was (usually) helpful..

Rattigan350

Some mentioned John Ankerberg and Walter Martin. I met John 28 years ago. I didn't agree with him because he promotes Baptistism and the trinity. I'm still against Christendom and these Bible debates and ping pong. I don't see how that can help someone see the truth about the truth, that just promotes arguments about scripture and drives one more towards JWs because Baptists twists scripture more.

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If you don't believe in God where do you get the strength to cope?

by Miss.Fit in

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i know there are some here that are going through some tough times.

some of you do not believe in god.

some are not sure.. i was told recently by a friend to pray to god for help and he would comfort me.. my first impulse is to pray.

Rattigan350

Use the Force. Remember. The strength of a Jedi flows from the Force.

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Your first time on this forum. What were your thoughts and feelings?

by stuckinarut2 in

hey all,.

i was just thinking back to the first time i found this awesome forum...years before i eveni joined up and starting posting myself.. i was so encouraged and happy to see that i was not alone!

i was not the only one who was observing the org, and all of its aspects and thinking "seriously?

Rattigan350

My first thoughts were: You all are a bunch of stinkin apostates who don't know anything. I thought the organization was good.

Now looking back since I've come to see how the organization is, I was the one who didn't know anything. Wish I had left sooner. I see so many said that they left in 1995 (1995 is the new 1975) over the generation change. I wish I did. I wish the internet was as developed back then

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simpleton jw reply

by prologos in

talking to a cherished "in" friend, i mentioned:.

"how can you go door to door and represent these outlandish doctrines that make you different from the householders, .

overlapping generations, abstaining from the eucharist, submission to leaders even in the face of unreasonable demands, failed, false prophecies?

Rattigan350

"abstaining from the Eucharist,"

What the H is a Eucharist?

I would abstain because I don't know what it is.

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Has anyone ever gotten disfellowshipped for going to University?

by SonoftheTrinity in

jehovah's witnesses claim no one is disfellowshipped for pursuing higher education.

somehow it seems there must be some halfwit sorry excuse for an elder somewhere who personally felt threatened by over educated young whippersnappers and decided to mark every nerd he could point his sweaty little finger with.

Rattigan350

The question is: How do they know you are going to university? Since they are advocating trade schools. Why aren't others in the congregation told that you are going to an "approved trade school"?

But then the question becomes: Why are you trying to please people whom you can't be honest with and are not interested in your future?

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The boy who came back from heaven (the book), a hoax.

by James Mixon in

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oh really.

the boy was six year old when he said he was in heaven with the angels.

now he admit it was made up for attention..

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Cofty said: What is more likely - That a virgin gave birth, or a Jewish girl lied?

Virgin girls can give birth. Shmi Skywalker did.

If everyone listed JWs, they would have known that none of those kids went to heaven and met with Jesus or angels. That is something that JWs have right.

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Boyfriend and dating news - Any advice

by KateWild in

so i started dating on the internet in june and have met some nice guys.

i have put in a few recent posts that i have a boyfriend and wanted to give an update.

things haven't worked out sadly.. i was seeing him for a couple of months we were having fun and then things tailed off after christmas.

Rattigan350

"dating on the internet "

No. You used an internet based introduction service.

"I have found internet dating quite fun."

Translate - getting introductions online but still dating offline, otherwise it is just email.