Posts by Rattigan350

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Former CO Willis Bentley

by Rejected in

is he on this board?

does anyone know the reason he left?

what denomination is his church?.

"According to a circuit overseer, who had Willis Bentley when he was in New Jersey, Willis Bentley is no longer serving as one of Jehovah's witnesses, he left the truth years ago and started his own church. What the CO told me is that the reason he left had something to do with when the Branch stopped allowing them to write their own material and started providing them with outlines, he did not elaborate further as to what kind of church, this happened while he was still in New Jersey, I am not sure if that is where it happened. Unfortunately that is all I know about the subject. This was around 2000."

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Elders as Shepherd and teachers

by Rattigan350 in

after the meeting this week and the song and parts about elders, something occurred to me.

the elders don't teach as shepherds.. when nathan confronted david.

he didn't make an accusation stating that jehovah informed him of what david did.

Rattigan350

After the meeting this week and the song and parts about elders, something occurred to me. The elders don't teach as shepherds.

When Nathan confronted David. He didn't make an accusation stating that Jehovah informed him of what David did. When one is accused one gets defensive. Nathan presented a story so David could see a different point of view. That one one sees the point and not get defensive.

I can think of times in when the elders brought accusations against me, and of course I got defensive. If they would have taught like Nathan did, as a shepherd and lead the sheep, instead of accusing, I wouldn't have gotten defensive and would have appreciated their direction. But it is not in them to actually shepherd the sheep.

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A Practical Joke

by metatron in

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friends

ok, you get hold of some of the special blue envelopes the.

society uses for judicial mail from elders.. you get some df/da forms and fill them out perfectly - with.

the name of your least favorite elder as the favored party.

Rattigan350

How about filling out a field service report and put random numbers in there but each month put the name of a different person in the congregation on it and turn it in. The secretary will be confused and have to contact those people every month.

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Most Common USA County Names

by snowbird in

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washington, jefferson, franklin, jackson, lincoln .... does your state have an above-mentioned county?.

alabama has every one, except lincoln.. inspired by a sweet poster.. sylvia.

Rattigan350

Of course Alabama didn't like Lincoln.

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Porneia !

by zeb in

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friends

friends!

we haven't heard that word for some time!

it must be due for another round from the wt you know what you can and cant do in marriage.. incoming!.

Rattigan350

Oral sex in marriage was considered unnatural in the 1970s. But what is natural? Dogs by nature, sniff butts. That is natural, should we?

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You may not have read the Apologist version of 607 b.c.e.

by Terry in

jerusalem 607 bce vindicatedapostates and other opposers argue that jerusalem was not destroyed in 607 bce, but in 587 bce, and provide what they claim is archaeological evidence to support this.

read this chapter.... 5: servitude to the king of babylon for 70 years?.

read this chapter.... 9: the 70 years for tyre.

Rattigan350

Well Vanderhoven, people on both sides are ignorant. It is not about Daniel 4.

It is about Jehovah's promise to David that his offspring would sit on his throne to time indefinite. That was leading up to Jesus being king. But Jesus lived and died and did not become king. What gives?

David and Solomon on down were kings in Jerusalem subject to no one but Jehovah's laws. That changed when Jehoiakim became a vassel to Babylon in 607.

That would seem to end Jehovah's promise of the kings in the line of David leading to Christ. But that is where Dan 4 comes in. It says the kingdom would be paused or banded for 7 times or 2520 years. That is not from when Jerusalem was destroyed but when the kings became subject to Babylon in 607, or 606 or 605, (who knows), and that would end in 1914, 1915, 1916, then Jesus would become king.

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I hate the Watchtower but I really still hate the Trinity Jesus is NOT God!

by Witness 007 in

some bibles use the term "worship" when refering to jesus...at times people did fall down and bow to him........this doesn't show he was god!

the greek term; proskeyneo, means to prostrate oneself, to bow down and show honour.

now, this was done for jehovah.....and his representatives....jesus israelite kings and priests....but for the honour of jehovah not as creature worship which even angels would refuse.. also i studied the non-biblical early church gospels which really does show a slow decline over 150 years, into the trinity as the watchtower claims...........although i still hate the watchtower society at least i learnt something that wasn't a lie..

Rattigan350

I hate the trinity and always will hate it. The problem is that people take quotes from the Bible and use those to form or support the trinity. The quotes can not be trusted. I don't believe that Jesus said Father, son and holy spirit as there was no contextual reason for him to say it. If it does not make sense, it is not.

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where was jehovahs hand in the matter?

by nowwhat? in

so jah can build a broadcasting studio in record time, provide a cool summer so the new bibles can be printed on time without the presses overheating, but cant deliver his people in russia?!.

if jehovah is going to allow it what good are millions of letters and prayers then?

Rattigan350

100 years ago Marx said Religion is the opium of the people. Then in 1989 Reagan got Gorby to open up some. In 2009 some parts of Russia said Witnesses were too extreme, (no blood, shunning, arrogance). They didn't learn and change, so they reap what they sow.

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Marry Only in the Lord

by Rattigan350 in

last night at the meeting, a local needs talk preempted the regularly scheduled part.

an elder who is the most society following elder talked about loving god and then he talked about bible principles such as marry only in the lord.

he talked of deut.

Rattigan350

His reasoning was totally wrong.

He started out talking about God's Commandments not being burdensome if we love God. If that is the case then marrying a Witness will lead to happiness. I did that but I don't have that.

Also, they focus on the negatives, but if it is not burdensome, there should not be negatives for marrying Witnesses, there should only be positives.

As for Deut if they wanted to marry NonIsraelites, why would Jehovah care? it is one or two people out of a million. And as for serving the Canaanite gods, that would mean they would choose the losing side. Did Hitler give any commands that his soldiers could not marry Polish people whom they invaded? Would the Polish want to get with invaders? Would the Germans switch to the losing side?

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Outcome - Banned in Russia - Final

by OrphanCrow in

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friends

i just watched the live feed from the russian court room and followed the updates on the russian exjw forum.. just waiting for confirmation from other sources...but, it looks like the final (and expected) result is:.

banned.

which means that the wts property in russia now belongs to the russian state..

Rattigan350

Some parts of Russia did this in 2009. The WTS learned nothing from that to be less extreme. They got tw