Because Rutherford bought some property way back when, why would that matter?
Rattigan350
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How many people have been woken up by the A.R.C??
by karter ini know of 1 that watched the video and never went back.. i think for some it was a the sum of the total or the "last straw" if you like.. karter..
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Rattigan350
"How many of these tens of thousands of JWs actually know of the existence of this past Watchtower residence built to house Abraham, David, Isaiah, Moses, Samuel and others?" -
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How many people have been woken up by the A.R.C??
by karter ini know of 1 that watched the video and never went back.. i think for some it was a the sum of the total or the "last straw" if you like.. karter..
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Rattigan350
There are 2 things that people criticize the organization over that will not affect me. The UN NGO thing, and this ARC. Both are criticisms about the GB and Watchtower and what people did or said and mean nothing about the religion itself.
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Shunning: Reasoning With JW's
by The Fall Guy inperhaps this line of questioning could agitate a jw's thinking.
it can't hurt.. you: is shunning a biblical teaching?.
jw: yes.. you: so it must be god's law?.
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Rattigan350
"Shunning is not a biblical thing"
The theory behind it is that under Israel law, the person was supposed to have been killed and thus the ultimate shunning.
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Shallowness in 4/29 Watchtower study
by Rattigan350 inmove forward as a spiritual person.. paragraph 2 "robert and his wife began passing time by quizzing each other on bible subjects.
his wife, a spiritually strong person, had no problem answering the questions, but robert found himself constantly embarrassed, not knowing what to say.".
there is no indication of how she fits the template of a spiritual person other than she can answer bible trivia.
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Rattigan350
Move Forward as a Spiritual Person.
Paragraph 2 "Robert and his wife began passing time by quizzing each other on Bible subjects. His wife, a spiritually strong person, had no problem answering the questions, but Robert found himself constantly embarrassed, not knowing what to say."
There is no indication of how she fits the template of a spiritual person other than she can answer Bible trivia. Is that simply an effect of her being "spiritual person"? Perhaps her house or car is a mess, but she does great in Bible Jeopardy. Perhaps she is mean and a complainer or spends too much but is good at quizzing.
So he is embarrassed because he does not know the answers to quizzing? Perhaps he is busy working, cleaning, and a good husband. Wouldn't that be better than knowing trivia?
Their focus is not on practical things, but on the organization.
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Mother is terrified over talks of peace.
by Searching injust spoke with my mother about the summit for north and south korea, her face turned a ghastly pale and she refused to talk to me about it afterwards.
i know exactly what is on her mind, and i'm not sure if i can say or do anything to assuage her fears about this being a fulfillment of prophecy.
any suggestions on what i could perhaps tell her to try and steer her from her line of thinking?
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Rattigan350
JWs from the Watchtower have this wrong. This is not a prophecy. One reason is that Paul was not a prophet. He was a historian reflecting on Jerusalem and its destruction by Babylon. At a time when they thought they had peace, then the Babylonians came back and destroyed them. The same thing happend when Rom destroyed Jerusalem.
In both occasions Jerusalem was at war. But now there is no war. So a cry of 'peace and security' means nothing since there is peace.
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Beard update
by Coded Logic inso it's been over a month since i decided to grow a beard.
the mustache and chin have come in fuller than i ever imagined - while the cheeks leave me wondering if i'll ever grow enough hair to make it not look so wildly unkept and patchy (if anyone has any advice here it'd be much appreciated).
but in the mean time i'll give it another month and see how it goes.. .
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Rattigan350
You didn't decide to grow a beard. It grows on its own. You decided to not cut it.
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Proposed Georgia(USA) Assembly Hall Collected Funds, 3.5 Million Dollars, donated to the World Wide Work
by James Jack infrom 2012 thru 2016, congregations in georgia and alabama collected funds to build a new assembly hall in south atlanta.
to date, 3.5 million dollars was collected and 75 acres was purchased.
the branch decided that this assembly hall was not needed.
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Rattigan350
This was the Rome GA assembly hall. I remember the letters stating how much was collected $3 million then back in 2013 they canceled it and sent the money to the WWW.
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The implement of Christ’s death
by lastmanstanding insimple physics.. the timber that was used to execute jesus had to be substantial.
thus, its weight could not have been carried entirely, but rather it had to be dragged.. get a log with no crosspiece, one substantial enough to nail a man to, and try to drag it through town.
try to get a hold of it without it sliding out of your grip.
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Rattigan350
The Bible says it was not a cross by prophecy
Jesus made reference to Moses' lifting up of the copper serpent in the Wilderness.
John 3:14-15 14 And just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so the Son of man must be lifted up, 15 that everyone believing in him may have everlasting life.
That reference was from:
Numbers 21:7-9 7 Finally the people came to Moses and said: "We have sinned, because we have spoken against Jehovah and against you. Intercede with Jehovah that he may remove the serpents from upon us." And Moses went interceding in behalf of the people. 8 Then Jehovah said to Moses: "Make for yourself a fiery snake and place it upon a signal pole. And it must occur that when anyons to look at it and so must keep alive." 9 Moses at once made a serpent of copper and placed it upon the signal pole; and it did occur that if a serpent had bitten a man and he gazed at the copper serpent, he then kept alive.
When they looked upon the copper serpent they were saved. That is a prophecy leading to our looking to Jesus likewise who had died upon a pole. Our putting faith in him will save us.
It had to be as the copper serpent was set upon.
However the copper serpent did not end there.
2 Kings 18:1-5 18 Hez·e·ki'ah the son of A'haz the king of Judah became king. 3 And he continued to do what was right in Jehovah's eyes, according to all that David his forefather had done. 4 He it was that removed the high places and broke the sacred pillars to pieces and cut down the sacred pole and crushed to pieces the copper serpent that Moses had made; for down to those days the sons of Israel had continually been making sacrificial smoke to it, and it used to be called the copper serpent-idol. 5 In Jehovah the God of Israel he trusted; and after him there proved to be no one like him among all the kings of Judah, even those who had happened to be prior to him.
For centuries the copper serpent, something that saved them once, was being used as an idol. The same is going for the instrument that people believe Christ died upon. They worship the cross by wearing it as a necklace, or earrings. People have it in their churches, houses, etc. But it is still idolatry just as it was back then.
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Do Jehovah's Witnesses Accept Evolution?
by jukief inby evolution or by creation?
by evolution or by creation?
"the bible is a myth" and "evolution is true".
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Rattigan350
Sure they do. How do you think God became. He evolved.
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Today's WT Paragraph 4
by Slidin Fast ini thought that this little gem deserved a thread of it's own.. 4. why is it important for us to be present at the memorial if at all possible?.
4 reflect on the importance of attending the memorial.
remember, congregation meetings are part of our worship.
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Rattigan350
"Keep doing this in remembrance of me."
How can we remember someone whom we've never met?
It should be 'keep doing this in remembrance of the story you've read about me'
The memorial was for the apostles and those back then.