Posts by EdenOne

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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie

by Farkel in

it was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.

he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.

up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.

EdenOne

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Playing the dating Game..............how do you play?

by KateWild in

everyone knows i have been playing this dating game, and what a fun game it has been.

i have met a few nice guys but remained strictly platonic, and also met some really pushy guys too that just wanted sex.. i have not met mr right yet, but who knows what the platonic guys could evolve into.. it's all a game and anyone who says they don't play games when dating is lying.

does a man always have to make the first move?.

EdenOne

Men are usually bad at guessing what a woman wants. Most men won't do any decisive move because they have no idea how the woman will react, so they protect themselves from shooting their feet. However, if the woman drops hints, men are usually quick to understand and make decisions based on those... depends if you want to lead the process or let the man imagine he's leading it ...

Eden

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The Truth About The Truth goes way way way back before Watchtower?

by Island Man in

here's an interesting excerpt from forged by bart ehrman (pay particular attention to the last sentence):.

"a number of the books of the new testament were disputed already in early christianity, among the christian scholars of the second to the fourth centuries, who were arguing over which books should be included in scripture.. the most famous instance is the book of revelation.

a third-century christian scholar of alexandria, egypt, named dionysius, argued that the book was not actually written by jesuss disciple john, the son of zebedee.

EdenOne

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Have you reconnected with ex-JW's after you have left the Borg?

by EdenOne in

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after reading from another thread, i felt it was worth asking this question.. if you left the borg on your own, have you attempted to meet others whom you used to be connected with while you were "in", but who have also become ex-jw's before or after you have left the wts?

if that's the case, has it remained a friendship, or the connection grew cold?

just curious as to what keeps friendships "stick" [or not] once you no longer have the borg's doctrinal glue.. your experiences are welcome.. eden.

EdenOne

It's curious that, once the 'doctrinal glue' dries off, many of us realize that we don't have much in common with the other JW's and the friendship tends to fade off. This can only be realized when both are "out". Naturally there are exceptions, but this comes to show that indoctrination is such a powerful equalizer and nihilifier of one's individuality.

Eden

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JW.Organs

by bigmac in

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just a thought--with the new packaging--will the bruvvers soon be known as jw.organs ?.

EdenOne

They will be known as JayWeeOrgz ...

[Vidiot beat me to it: J-Worgs is better :P ]

Eden

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Have you reconnected with ex-JW's after you have left the Borg?

by EdenOne in

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friends

after reading from another thread, i felt it was worth asking this question.. if you left the borg on your own, have you attempted to meet others whom you used to be connected with while you were "in", but who have also become ex-jw's before or after you have left the wts?

if that's the case, has it remained a friendship, or the connection grew cold?

just curious as to what keeps friendships "stick" [or not] once you no longer have the borg's doctrinal glue.. your experiences are welcome.. eden.

EdenOne

After reading from another thread, I felt it was worth asking this question.

If you left the Borg on your own, have you attempted to meet others whom you used to be connected with while you were "in", but who have also become ex-JW's before or after you have left the WTS? If that's the case, has it remained a friendship, or the connection grew cold? Just curious as to what keeps friendships "stick" [or not] once you no longer have the Borg's doctrinal glue.

Your experiences are welcome.

Eden

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Tartarus in 2 Peter 2:4

by Leolaia in

in my recent thread on the nephilim and the rephaim (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/68224/1.ashx), i indicated that the legend of the titans was broadly related to the canaanite and hebrew myths of the nephilim and rephaim, but here in 2 peter we see more recent hellenistic influence on jewish legend.

according to hesiod and other greek writers, the titans were the wicked offspring of ouranius and gaia ("heaven" and "earth") who initially had sovereignty over the cosmos but whom zeus and the olympian gods defeated and consigned to eternal bondage in the prison called tartarus in the netherworld.

iliad 8:13-16 describes tartarus as a bottomless pit located below hades, a distinction reminiscent of hades and the abyss of revelation.

EdenOne

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Transfusing blood is NOT eating blood

by Rufus T. Firefly in

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watchtowers official view:.

you also ask why one can be disfellowshipped for taking a blood transfusion but not for taking blood fractions.

while both may affect the life of an individual, the expression "life-sustaining" in connection with blood transfusions is synonymous with the idea of taking in food for nourishment.

EdenOne

Welcome back, Marvin

Eden

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Letters of the Governing Body of Israel during the Exodus

by EdenOne in

here's a challenge to the creative ones.... what if there was a governing body in israel during the time of the exodus or the judges?

what kind of letters would it produce to the rank and file?

bring it on.

EdenOne

Here's a challenge to the creative ones...

What if there was a Governing Body in Israel during the time of the Exodus or the Judges? What kind of letters would it produce to the rank and file? Bring it on. Here's one example:

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Paran, 06 Tishri, 1444 BCE.

To All Tribes of Israel

It has been brought to the attention of the Governing Body that some brothers have been hoarding Manna, storing it to use in the following day, in disregard of the instructions lovingly provided by Jehovah through our faithful and discreet servant, Moses, on Exodus 20:4, 19: “Let no man leave it till the morning”.

While an exceptional provision has been made in order that the Sabbath may be fully observed, and thus twice the product can be stored on Fridays, apparently some sisters are undermining their husbands’ headship by collecting and storing an inappropriate portion of Manna with the intention of storing it for usage in the following day.

In light of this situation, the Governing Body, who now sits on the seat of Moses, has made extensive consideration with prayer and has decided that each residual or excessive portion of Manna that will be inappropriately kept overnight shall bred worms and become foul, followed by an abhorrent putrid stench. This way, each Israelite should learn not to ignore Jehovah’s loving instructions, and keep in line with the progressive organization of God.

We believe these loving instructions will be beneficial to all as we honor Jehovah's name by being faithful in all things during these momentous journey towards the promised land.

Please accept our expression of warm Hebrew love.

Hebrew Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses

Note to all tribal elders: If any Israelite is found guilty of deliberately disobeying these instructions, and two witnesses can be found to testify of the brazen misconduct, a judicial committee of three elders should meet with the wrongdoer. If no evidence of repentance is found, the impenitent, mentally diseased individual must be disfellowshipped from God’s people by means of loving stoning. The secretary of the tribe should keep this letter in the permanent file.

Eden

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for those still "in" what's the mood

by lastchance in

in my area the general sense is bleak.

many are in survival mode.

even at the convention the appearance of the majority was unhappy and tired.

EdenOne

There's a significant detatchment between the discourse ("oh these wonderful new understandings!", "the organization is really moving forward", "the preaching work is accelerating", "the GB is so loving and really caring about us", "the end is really close now"...blah blah blah and whatnot) and THEN there is the actual deeds and general attitude. And what I see is the brothers tired, demotivated, going through the motions, no real spark anymore ... the KH is mostly a social club where they meet their friends. And I see the Elders feeling the knife on their backs to keep the rank & file marching in pace, and feeling they're losing grip on the situation, but at the same time drumming from the platform that Jehovah is blessing us, etc. In my congregation, over the last 2 years, 4 elders stepped down / were removed, and two relinquished their "special privileges" [such as overseeing the theocratic school], while keeping the Elder status, and 2 MS were removed (myself included).

Eden