So you're implying a collective dismissal of the Bethel family . Those who were sent on their merry way before were left with nothing?
Eden
revelation 6:6 kjv.
6 and i heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, a measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.. this prophecy starts to be true in south europe bethels..... according to our sources, bethel families have been asked to reduce their food allowance and even been informed that monthly contribution might not be paid.. meantime, one of these branches is sending millions of € every year as donation to other wt structures, not to mention the 7 digit number on their bank account.
bethel members are not blind ;).
So you're implying a collective dismissal of the Bethel family . Those who were sent on their merry way before were left with nothing?
Eden
revelation 6:6 kjv.
6 and i heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, a measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.. this prophecy starts to be true in south europe bethels..... according to our sources, bethel families have been asked to reduce their food allowance and even been informed that monthly contribution might not be paid.. meantime, one of these branches is sending millions of € every year as donation to other wt structures, not to mention the 7 digit number on their bank account.
bethel members are not blind ;).
South Europe ... does this include Portugal's bethel?
Eden
if you are romantic, and believe in the underdog, then tonight is an occasion when an extraordinary sporting achievement can become reality.
i am not saying it's as great an achievement as man landing on the moon, but i hope this thread continues after tonight and concludes with wales beating germany in the final on sunday.
now that really would be an achievement more remarkable than man landing on the moon,,.. anyone else watching the game tonight?.
Very happy to report that Portugal beat Wales 2-0 and we're headed to the final ... ;) quite a party here last night!
Eden
i often read that ct russell was more influenced by "age-to-come" christians than adventist christians.
what exactly is "age to come" christianity?
what are some of its denominations?
I had access to another excerpt of "Separate Identity" (I wish I could buy the work, but there's no e-book version):
Christadelphians and One Faith movement are considered Age to Come churches.
And, apparently, Age to Come faiths pre-date the Millerite movement.
Eden
i often read that ct russell was more influenced by "age-to-come" christians than adventist christians.
what exactly is "age to come" christianity?
what are some of its denominations?
Most references I find are coming from the (excellent) work "A Separate Identity - Organizational Identity Among Readers Of Zion's Watch Tower 1870-1887" by B. W. Shulz and R. M. de Vienne (Fluttering Wings Press, 2014), but I've seen it in other places.
On a footnote of that book, there's this entry: "Age to Come is a biblical phrase. It was used early in the Millerite movement, but not always to Literalist doctrine. The term was not exclusive to Millerites and Literalists but being a biblical phrase was used by others". (p. 55)
Seems to me the authors are referring to churches that emerged from a subset of the Millerite movement (p. 56) BUT didn't evolve into Adventism?
Eden
i often read that ct russell was more influenced by "age-to-come" christians than adventist christians.
what exactly is "age to come" christianity?
what are some of its denominations?
I often read that CT Russell was more influenced by "age-to-come" christians than adventist christians. What exactly is "age to come" christianity? What are some of its denominations? How do they differ from adventism?
Any reference works about the subject?
Thanks
Eden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yxw_wxyviu .
Sick manipulating, criminal bastard!
Eden
so some may have read the long and boring post about our last vacation and some of the things that my wife came to tell me during our time away.
i am adding the link here but i can summarize it for time's sake.. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5768475763015680/vacation-time-reality-closing-up-on-my-wife.
in a nutshell, right before we left, we found out of a jw couple we know well.
That sounds like progress, definitively! Keep doing what you're doing, don't push it too hard too fast, be gentle with her. Your marriage is paramount, and you're on the right track to protect it. Keep us posted!
Eden
so i finally got a chance to sit at a private pc and join up.
recently exiled from jwr, born in, faded 20 years ago, separated two years ago.
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Welcome!
i came across this weird blog that castigates fading jws for their "cowardice" and "hypocrisy" for not making themselves vulnerable to shunning.
apparently in the view of this blogger jws who discover it's not the truth are morally obliged to play by the watchtower rules and face the consequences of shunning.. http://jwresearchblog.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/fading-faking-and-lying-as-unbelieving.html#comment-form.
what is absent from the blog post is any discussion of the statement in the july 2009 awake!, that no one should be made to choose between their beliefs and their family.
the statement in the July 2009 Awake!, that no one should be made to choose between their beliefs and their family.
Since when what was written in the JW publications has stopped any JW drone from mindlessly obey what the GB commands them to do? That statement obviously applies to OTHERS, not the JW's.
Take, for example, the statement that Knorr included on the book "Is This Life All there Is?":
"It is obvious that the true God, who is himself "the God of truth" and who hates lies, will not look with favor on persons who cling to organizations that teach falsehood. (Psalm 31:5; Proverbs 6:16-19; Revelation 21:8) And, really, would you want to be even associated with a religion that had not been honest with you?"
Tell me: How many JW's, even admitting that the Organization has taught wrong teachings in the past, will apply these words to themselves?
Eden