Same TMG time zone, different country, more to the south ... ;)
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growing up, the jws at the kingdom hall taught me that perfection is the only standard via which things can ever be measured.
"well yeah modern medicine is great - but it's pointless because they can't save everyone.
and they can't stop people from dying.
Same TMG time zone, different country, more to the south ... ;)
Eden
Welcome!
https://www.change.org/p/internal-revenue-service-revoke-501-c-3-status-of-the-watchtower-bible-amp-tract-society?recruiter=403260680&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink .
i'm not sure what good these things do, but this petition needs 211 more signatures to reach 1,000. .
the organization known as the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses or watchtower bible & tract society headquartered in brooklyn, new york, have for many years enjoyed what is known as 501(c) (3) status whereby a nonprofit organization is exempt from paying federal income tax if its activities have the following purposes:.
Recently John Oliver found out that the IRS has only audited one religious organization in recent years, and he mentioned that here are express instructions to take a very soft approach on religions. In any case, it can't hurt to be vocal about it. One more straw on the camel's back. Some day, some straw will be the final one. Signed.
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meleti has not been wrong so far.
if anything he can be too cautious.
have a read of his last post on a wt study this week past.
The link to the specific article within the website isn't working, even from within the website. It returns a server error of sorts.
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in this video the popular saudi cleric sheik yahya al-jana discusses the joys of paradise, saying that men will have the strength of a hundred men in paradise and will be busy tearing hymens, while the virgins of paradise, whose breasts are like pomegranates, become virgins every time again.. the cleric also explains it is mostly men who enter paradise noting that women in general are bad because they refuse to wear the veil, they wear tight clothes in shopping malls, put on perfume and jewelry, and use filthy social media platforms.
source.... this is what young men from conservative muslim families are raised on.
is it any wonder islamic countries treat women appallingly?.
Watched the video together with Mrs. Eden... Disgusting, is the least we can say. These sick bastards don't deserve the air that they breathe.
Eden
long time lurker here.
i'm a fifth gen born-in baptized jw.
to say i've been struggling with doubts is an understatement.
Welcome, Heartsafire! I hope you can find the much needed support here.
Eden
many people are understandably upset and angry at the notion that jws have the right to shun people.
it seems such an obvious "no brainer" cruel and inhuman thing to do - it must be wrong ... surely?.
of course we look at things from the perspective of those hurt and harmed by shunning.
In Europe there's an interesting development in the non-discrimination legislation. While at the moment it only applies in the context of employment, it's in the works being extended to other areas. It's the concept of 'instruction to discriminate'. If an institution of any kind instructs its members / affiliates / students to discriminate based on, among other things, religion and belief, that in itself will be considered a crime. It is an easy thing to demonstrate that shunning an ex-JW is a differentiated treatment than that given to a 'wordly' person who was never a JW, and, therefore, discrimination. The crime is considered to be perpetrated indirectly, that is, by the institution that is teaching or instructing to discriminate.
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none of my jehovah's witness relatives called to tell me or my family.
just found out this morning.
I'm sorry for your loss, Perry; my condolences. Not telling you about your mom passing away is just wrong. This horrible religion makes people do horrible things.
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i'm noticing that when i open quite a few of the posts here i notice that the end of the sentences on some lines are breaking improperly.
like for the word paragraph, it's broken up with the "aph" on the next line for an example.
it's happening a lot i'm seeing it just about in every post i open, is it just my view and my computer?.
Today I observed that problem on Mrs Eden's computer using Microsoft's Edge. Although not today, but I often run into that problem using Safari on my IPad.
Eden
"downsizing" has reached special pioneers.. this is the template mexico is using to get rid of many of its special pioneers.
see how cold and unloving is the language they use.
a translation attempt is as follows:.
Reminds me of
The Parable of the Dishonest Manager - Luke 16:1-9
He also said to the disciples, “There was a rich man [The Watchtower] who had a manager, [The special pionner / Bethelite / Circuit Overseer ] and charges were brought to him that this man was wasting his possessions. [receiving a monthly allowance when he could be regular pioneer and part-time job, thus wasting precious resources from the Master's Org ].
And he called him and said to him, ‘What is this that I hear about you? Turn in the account of your management, for you can no longer be manager.’ [Your special assignement has just been cancelled]
And the manager said to himself, ‘What shall I do, since my master is taking the management away from me?[ My monthly allowance and my green handshakes are gone! Damn!] I am not strong enough to dig, and I am ashamed to beg. [ I quitted school early and waivered superior education, I got no useful work skills ]
I have decided what to do, so that when I am removed from management, people may receive me into their houses.’ So, summoning his master’s debtors one by one, he said to the first, ‘How much do you owe my master?’ He said, ‘A hundred measures of oil.’ He said to him, ‘Take your bill, and sit down quickly and write fifty.’ Then he said to another, ‘And how much do you owe?’ He said, ‘A hundred measures of wheat.’ He said to him, ‘Take your bill, and write eighty.’ [ The Special pioneer / Bethelite / CO decides to call in a few favors from family and 'materialistic brothers' who sucked up to him for congregational privileges and manages to get a meager job]
The master commended the dishonest manager for his shrewdness. [ We knew you could pull this off, It was obviously Jehovah's hand ] For the sons of this world are more shrewd in dealing with their own generation than the sons of light. [ of course, they get an education and they work hard to make an actual living]
And I tell you, make friends for yourselves by means of unrighteous wealth, so that when it fails they may receive you into the eternal dwellings. [ awww dang! says the sheeple future ex-special pioneer, if only I knew what Jesus REALLY meant here! ]
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