Yeah - I understand about g-jobbing (and the people that did it) - but this was a little different in that they were sent in (ie got their visas) as being English teachers. It wasn't the money issue (I never knew about that) it was the fact that they went in by dishonest means. However, guess that is probably par for the course. No different to the Koreans that got caught in Afganistan then said they were medical volunteers - and many others. The org is no different.
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30Aust= Missionary Quits!! Watchtower wants his "English Teacher" wages???
by Witness 007 ina brother from the 1st ministerial training school in australia, quit his missionary assignment in asia.
the society had to send him in as an english teacher otherwise missionaries are not given visa's.
so on assignment he had to teach english part-time for a small wage.
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Aust= Missionary Quits!! Watchtower wants his "English Teacher" wages???
by Witness 007 ina brother from the 1st ministerial training school in australia, quit his missionary assignment in asia.
the society had to send him in as an english teacher otherwise missionaries are not given visa's.
so on assignment he had to teach english part-time for a small wage.
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Roski
....just to add - have been ripped off in a similar fashion myself, so am not surprised.
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Aust= Missionary Quits!! Watchtower wants his "English Teacher" wages???
by Witness 007 ina brother from the 1st ministerial training school in australia, quit his missionary assignment in asia.
the society had to send him in as an english teacher otherwise missionaries are not given visa's.
so on assignment he had to teach english part-time for a small wage.
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Roski
Just wondering if the country was Laos? If so, it didn't sit well with me at the time that this happended - but in my ignorance put it down to "theocratic strategy". Perhaps it has been an ongoing strategy though....
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JW's + military service in Sth Korea
by Roski inthey have been trying for this for a while.
(scroll down).
http://rokdrop.com.
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Roski
They have been trying for this for a while. (scroll down)
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anyone writing about Dave Madzay obviously never new him!!!!!!!!!!!!
by donna4174 ini am writing because i am tired of people talking about rumours that they heard about dave madzay,he was the kindest , most intelligent man i ever new, yes he was df but only jehovah can judge him for things he did, no one else.he was an elder very high up in bethel who gave the most wonderful talks, helped many people,brought a lot of people into the truth and yet when he died not one jw attended his funeral.
how sad that a man who was so high up in bethel could be treated like this...........i was brought up in the truth until i was 15 , and turned away because of how dave was treated, even though dave had jehovah in his heart right up until his last breath and did everything he could do to be reinstated but sadly never was.........................i know i knew him
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....slacko Aussies
Donna -
I only knew him during the early days and always liked him and his wife. Some of my family were more closely connected during the time he 'fell from grace', and if any of the stories are to be believed, I guess one has to understand that in his position his behaviour must attract negative attention and judgement. After all - that is what the organization encourages. As a 15 year old you probably had a different perspective than those others that acted in a judgemental manner. He was an adult and he knew the organization well. He also would have known the consequence of his actions. No one should judge him - so perhaps just let him RIP.
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Japan closes 638 Congregations!!!!! Why???
by Witness 007 injapan since the 1970''s has had amazing publisher increases!
every year the number of witnesses shot up by many thousands.
this peaked in 1998, since then the number of witnesses and congregations has continued to drop!.
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Roski
Even though Japan and Sth Korea are all wired up, the English language internet is barely a blimp on their screen. They have more than enough sites/information of their own to bother trying to fathom the English sites - so any impact from the internet will depend on what is available in their own language. Other issues that run counter to JW's are: the economy, a competative education system ( and a need for formal education to get a well paying job), a huge entertainment industry (and a fine line between entertainment and 'real' life) - linked to that are significant changes in sexual behaviour, a younger generation that are quite indulged and often tend to lack self discipline/direction (but will still have an education because it is very difficult to fail - usually), lack of parental supervision for kids from a relatively young age (always at some school or other and in the company of friends - can't avoid worldy association), consumer behaviour, acting as a group - be it joining or leaving. Fads are big in Asia - they come and go quite quickly.
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LIFE IS GOOD!
by Dansk inwhat the heck.
i'm sitting here with idle time.
ok, so what's so great about that?
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Roski
Your garden sounds wonderful - have you ever psoted any photo's? I constantly plan what my next garden will be after leaving this job/country/apartment. I really like the idea of having a frog pond. It all sounds very healing.
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How long do you greive?
by helncon inas i was driving home from work tonight i was feeling uneasy which was unusual for me and then it occured to me that it was a close friends death anniversary(13-06-93), reflecting on my way home i thought of the good times that we had(i had known this person since i was 7 till he died at 16) and for the first time in many years this year i have felt at ease with this as the previous years i have always been a mess.. i still think of others who have died over the years but think of the positive and no longer feel the sad pain anymore.
have i moved on?.
so i ask how long does it take to actually get over the pain and hurt from loved ones dieing?.
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Roski
It may get different but I am not sure that it gets better.
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Does China Disprove Bible Prophecy?
by metatron inchina is rapidly emerging as second only to the us.
it's growth rates may allow it to pass the us.
yet, interpretations of daniel and revelation say nothing about this, at least.
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I have heard both China and Islam - seems to be anybody's guess a the moment.
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Did You Personally Know of Sex Offenders In The Congregation?
by minimus ini knew of 1 person that should've been reported to the authorities for fooling around with his sisters when he was an older teen and they were much younger.
it was hushed up by the elders, as this was considered a very prominent family.
the allegations were made probably 20 years ago, well before i was ever in that hall.
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Roski
1. A sister who was raped by her uncle at age 12. She was told not to say anything because he would go to jail and his family would suffer. She brought the matter up again when her marriage had problems - about age 30. The elders on the case (old friends) told her to leave it. I had a very strong feeling that the main elder was covering up for himself in some way - something from the past. He was later a CO. She brought it up again at about age 40. She had moved and the new elders were somewhat supportive, however the elders from the original congregation told her if she was still there she would have been disfellowshiped. It got to the point where if she took the issue any further - to court - he would have been prosecuted. (This is the information I was given at the time). He threatened suicide so she dropped it - but he and his wife admitted what had happened. Somehow they had got into denying it ever happened. He was removed as an MS - reluctantly - as he was soon to be made an elder. His daughter-in-law also testified against him, and others cast shadows over his behaviour, but I do not know the details. He is still in good standing. He also gropped her sister on when she was young. This sister's parents sacrificed her to keep the peace, and keep the family happy. Over the years he did lots of suspicious things with young kids - often had single sister's kids stay over. His wife now suggests that they just had to admit his wrongdoing only to satisfy the sister - his neice. No remorse.
2. A young brother made some improper advances to my very young daughter in his room after closing the door. I didn't know about it until years later. He is a missionary now.
3. Numerous others over the years in relation to other people as well as lecherous older brothers that used field service as an opportunity to get too close to me. Even as a good witness I had issues with this matter.