JWs have unwittingly sided with the older son of the parable
Posts by venus
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6Watchtower policies Versus the Bible
by UnshackleTheChains ini thought i would run a new kind of topic.
watchtower policies versus the bible .
to start off with.
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the watchtower have cut more than just mags and books
by pepperheart inif you go on to jw.org itself and ltype in the search box for "bethel closures" it will tell you under the headline of"giving priority to the global preaching work".
that they have kicked out 5,500 people from the bethel family.. also if you search under "2012 bethel".
on page two it will tell you that they have "consolidated 20 branch offices of jws around the world .
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venus
This is disservice to the prophecy found in Isaiah 60:22 "The least will become a thousand, the smallest a mighty nation. I am Yahweh; I will accomplish it quickly in its time."
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Who is the "faithful and discreet slave"? & JW class system
by Counter-Watchtower inive asked my jw friends that 3 times and never got an answer.. and can someone explain the jw class system?
and or point me to info on it..
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This is like asking "Who is the good Samaritan?" Question found in Mathew 24:45 is a part of an illustration Jesus used to alert those living in the Last Days; it does not imply the existence of God's organization any more that it glorifies the validity of slavery.
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Just overheard this after meeting . . .
by neat blue dog inthe annual meeting just finished, and here's a conversation i overheard from two gushing jws:.
sister:.
they said we're so close!.
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venus
As someone suggested in this forum sometime back, their understanding about Babylon the Great has to change from the world of religions to United States of America which has influence over all the earth's affairs.
https://escapeallthesethings.com/60-reasons-iraq-not-mystery-babylon/
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Just overheard this after meeting . . .
by neat blue dog inthe annual meeting just finished, and here's a conversation i overheard from two gushing jws:.
sister:.
they said we're so close!.
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venus
In the 90's when the phrase 'end is imminent' was used in WT many were interpreting its implication.
But now if GB talks about end being imminent there may be more buyers as age-old myth (nuclear arms would serve as a deterrent) is crumbling because of suicidal North Korea.
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Deadly Discipline
by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho inhttps://www.openmindsfoundation.org/loving-memory-laura-ann-gracey-father-remembers/.
the death toll from watchtower increases with the latest suicide report of laura ann gracey.
here, her father recounts the events leading up to his daughter's taking of her own life - undoubtedly starting with her indoctrination from birth into this stifling, doomsday cult.. i see many similarities to myself as laura.
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venus
Unfortunately, we will continue to have cases like this till we learn that others cannot teach us what we ARE (it is not for others to say what we ARE) and what God’s will is for us. Only we could discover by observation, what we ARE, and only we could discover by reasoning, what God’s will for us.
Teaching through words, are an attempt to put Life into a shoe box. It just will not fit, hence will result in confusion and tension for which some would try to end their lives.
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Illogicality of preaching
by venus innot all scripture is god-breathed.
there are verses that also dishonor god.
for example, subject of preaching seems to be too illogical even though it is the very basis of many sects [especially of jw organization which defines itself as the preaching organization].
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Dearyweather,
Interestingly, even The Watchtower admits that this verse (John 3:13) is not to be taken seriously because "When Jesus spoke to Nicodemus, a Pharisee and a teacher in Israel, Jesus had not yet gone back to heaven"
- w06 6/15 p. 30
- Questions From Readers
w06 6/15 p. 30(https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2006447)
If "Jesus had not yet gone back to heaven" while speaking to Nicodemus, it means he did not utter those verse. Later writers were assuming what were all the things Jesus would have spoken and done and were writing accordingly.
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Who goes to heaven?
by theplains inhello,i found this on the jw site.https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/go-to-heaven/it says:"jesus said: "no man has ascended into heaven.
(john 3:13) he thus showedthat good people who died before him, such as abraham, moses, job, and david,did not go to heaven.
(acts 2:29, 34).
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venus
Interestingly, even The Watchtower admits that this verse (John 3:13) is not to be taken seriously because "When Jesus spoke to Nicodemus, a Pharisee and a teacher in Israel, Jesus had not yet gone back to heaven"
- w06 6/15 p. 30
- Questions From Readers
w06 6/15 p. 30(https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2006447)
If "Jesus had not yet gone back to heaven" while speaking to Nicodemus, it means he did not utter those verse. Later writers were assuming what were all the things Jesus would have spoken and done and were writing accordingly.
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Jehovah (As Taught By JWs) Offers A Bum Deal
by pale.emperor ini thought this during my wake up.
if you think about it, jehovahs promise for the faithful is actually a bum deal.
some would even say a con.
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When the truth is preached, everyone would accept.
However when untruth is preached, it would only create various sects. For example apostle Paul believed his generation would see the New World (1 Cor 10:11) which proved to be untrue.
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"We don't venerate idols or images!"
by stuckinarut2 inhow often did we as witnesses say something like this : "unlike members of false religion, who venerate or worship through statues or idols, we give our focus to jehovah!".
members of religious groups focus their religious adoration via an image or statue.
they do this in order to provide some sort of focus to their need to worship.. witnesses give extreme focus on the name "jehovah" .
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Attacking worship through images makes no sense because keeping a photo of one's physical father is a sign of love toward him, and it serves as a reminder to all his father stands for.
Use of symbols are everywhere--even the wine and bread JWs pass in their memorial service is a symbol that is used as part of their worship.
If God is true, whatever helps me to keep myself attached to Him or whatever helps me to remember Him is also true. Some people say they remember God as the great Illuminator (giver of enlightenment) and elevator (giver of empowerment) when they see sun (compare Psalm 84:11).