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Going to meeting tonight.

by Crazyguy in

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going to my first meeting in i think about 6 months or so.

i'm going because my son has a talk the bible reading.

anyway how weird to go to a place where everything is so foreign now.

anonymouz

You might go to the service/publication counter, and pick up a new WT lite (those very thin new WTs), and say "WHAT? why the half rations?"

I did that to not even a smile at my attempt at humor.

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Pages 1766-1767 of the 2013 NWT

by Doug Mason in

pages 1766-1767 of the 2013 nwt states that the message of the bible is gods right to rule.. given that the wts declares that gods kingdom rule began in 1914, one would suspect that this would feature.

instead, there is a vague reference to something that supposedly happened about 1914.. here's the picture:.

http://www.jwstudies.com/2013_nwt__pages_1766__1767.jpg.

anonymouz

Yes, according to JWs rules, the month October was the significant part of 1914 for the end of the "appointed times", thus "about 1914" is in reference to the latter part of 1914. In JW rules WW1 sort of sanwhiched the 1914-1918 42 month period of Rev11:2-3 (Dan7:25; 12:7) by 5 months on each side approximate. But the "appointed times of the nations" began a couple months before that December 1914 marker of the 42 months, a little after the commencement of WW1. So the end of the "appointed times" does not exactly correspond to the start of the 42 months in JW rules.

Just a side note of why they may term it approximate. The timing of 42 months had to be determined after the fact. The dating of October 1914 was calculated before 1914. It's significance was adjusted later, as was the significance of the League of Nations manifestation first explained later. In those days, unlike the 3rd UN manifestation of 1990, which JWs took part in "placing" but make no mention as to Biblical significance (Dan11:31b), early JWs took UN related, world war ending, manifestations quite seriously.

Today's Bethel instead is UN NGO and aided world proclmation of the 3rd UN placement of 1990, quoting global "placement" quotes in Awake! 9/8/1991 as George Bush Sr. "New world order" mantra aids, echoed another 70 times in WT publications between 1991 to 2001 as JWs became free advertisers of the 8th Kingdom UN system. That is how we know Bethel aided fulfillment of Daniel 11:30b-32a as "those leaving the holy covenant"; a "holy covenant", according to JW 1918-1922 rules, that Christendom was not even in in 1945 erred interpretation or 1990 Bethel fulfillment of that prophecy after a marked, unique, cold war as per Dan11:29.

They stick to certain JW rules, but demolish all the others, so as to remain concealed as Bethel is now converted to a UN annex. (Dan11:41; Matt24:15; Luke 21:20). It's a classic subversion, but due to JW naivette very easy to accomplish since after WW2 and the 1945 2nd UN placement which JWs did expound as prophecy. Today's JWs work for UN overall developmental concealment; (Dan8:12b).

Even King North, an easy to see 8th King meaning from 3rd UN placment to 4th UN placment of Dan11:30-45, is all covered up at Bethel (for 22 years) for a ridiculous claim the USSR places the UN "disgusting thing" in 1945, though both them and the Nazi's were not UN members or fully defunct prior to that placement, leaving only one world power connected to UN presentation. The 8th King and Anglo-American elite systems. But this was the post cold war 3rd UN placement in reality, as Bethel went UN NGO instead, and diverts that prophecy and Dan8:11-13 parallels.

JWs thus conceal easy to affirm world events, with WW2 fictional versions that aid the duping of the average JW, as Bethel is pro UN agency.

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Im not sure how much longer i can take this

by DS211 in

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i kind of snapped at my wife today...for no reason really.

and in my frustration ive been contemplating just spilling the beans...i know its not the best idea but i do t know how much longer i can lead a double life and hide the truth.

as i still believe in god i feel like a hypocrite.

anonymouz

Not advice, but you may just consider getting it all off your chest and fully confide everything you know with your wife. Of course you know the situation, not I, but it just may have a positive effect overall, if it's suppression is coming out in other ways.

I guess you just have to assess what is the worst thing that can happen, and the best thing that can happen. I lived with some JWs, and eventually had to speak up, and got kicked out, but atleast they know the whole story now, and are not the tattle types, so it worked out for the best, as I no longer have to live in the situation which I did, in part, to try to get through to them. Last Memorial was my last "meeting", since I felt personally sharing in GB sins is not my style, and trying to defend those modern day papal deceivers and UN allies would no longer fly at the door, incidental, or on line.

I believe Christ is my link to God (NOT an inserted cabal of actors in the JW org), the Bible is the "Word" in a written form, and sinners at Bethel in complete brazen lack of discernment was actually starting to harm my faith in God and Christ. Thus it has become apparent to me, the org is purposely trying to play Christ (2Thess2:3-4), and NEVER should an atmosphere of such distraction and opposition to truth have ever formed as it did under GB tenure.

Very gradually JWs are now as much a false religion as any benefit from former truths are now overridden by modern lawless activities right from the top of Bethel itself. I would say pray, and like Jesus said, do not stop, but be at it repetively and God through Christ will give wisdom in your own personal matter.

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Are Most of the Witnesses That You Know Of Die Hard JWs?

by minimus in

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i think the remaining ones left are kool-aid drinkers and virtually brain dead..

anonymouz

Most JWs I know are like football fans of a team, win or lose, they know very little of foundational JWs teachings and overall meanings of the period that tracked 2 UN placemnets as prophecy in 1919 and 1945.

Today's JWs watch the 3rd UN placement of post cold war 1990 significance, and aided it's world proclamation as UN NGO (Awake! 9/8/1991), but fail to inform anyone of what a 3rd and 4th UN placement progression to international government implies. (The real Dan11:30-45 as 8th King King North)

Meaning JWs fumbled the UN football at the 50 yard line, are at 3rd down and 50 to go, and seem totally oblivious to what would have sent 1940s JWs into the streets with bullhorns as a 3rd to 4th UN placement means Armageddon total globalization and divine resolution is the real implication. (Dan11:42-45 + Rev17:12-18 = Rev16:13-16 Armageddon formula)

JWs are Die Hard alright, but the battery of truth is long dead. This logic would mean diddley to most JWs. JWs are really no longer "Jehovah's witnessess". In fact Bethel is now both, "God's organization" and a UN organization, all at the same time.

See anything wrong with that picture? JWs see nothing in the basic meaning. JWs have dropped the ball of tracking BOTH God's Kingdom and 8th Kingdom prophetic developments and world events since 1990 easily seen subverted for UN NGO purposes.

It's half time, and JWs think the game is over. SACKED by the 8th King at the 50. Luckily, they have one last time out; (Dan8:14 as 1Pet4:17). The owners and coaches of the JW team are to be fired. (Zech3:1-5; 2Thess2:8).

As the last play (Rev10-11), JWs will have to elucidate the UN 1-2-3-4 super-cycle meaning, and the final "two minute warning" of what it all really means. This time there will be no interception. Christ goes long, JWs scramble (Rev9), God throws a bomb, touchdown! (Rev19:11-21). The 8th King is down, removed from the field on a stretcher, toe tagged and body bagged. Game over.

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First post

by thedog1 in

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this is a very strange thing for me to do.

i have been an active witness for over 25 years.

i currently serve as an elder and i conduct the watchtower study.

anonymouz

thedog1, you have a PM

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Advise needed please

by EdenOne in

dear forumites, i need your advise please.. i would like to write a letter to the world headquarters of the jehovah's witnesses regarding a subject that i've published an article recently.

i would like to draw the attention of the gb to said article, which i will send in print form (therefore, no attention would be drawn to the website where it was published).. naturally, because i am a jehovah's witness in good standing in the congregation and what i'll be discussing in my letter will be a dissenting view from the official doctrine/practice, i want to protect my identity and i don't want to be harassed by elders or subjected to any sort of judicial investigation.

nevertheless, i would be very interested in reading their response (if any) to my letter.. how can i do that?

anonymouz

As Jehovah's witnesses became experts at types and repeating patterns that defined our religion by insightful former Bible students in the lead of theological insight (and open mindedness to adjust as needed), based on these recurring patterns of judgment in Israel, Jerusalem and Christendom from where the IBSA sprung, JWs are now backward and insightless concerning the final replication of Christendom's own corruption type that is now centered at Bethel in revisited form (2Thess2:1-4) as the GB is little more than a collective papal body. The entire clergy and laity classes are also invisibly present in JWs, the "lawless one" is also "lords of the faith", the foundational truths are being demolished (like GB=FDS) rather than reinforced to further JW understanding of historic and prophetic repeats, JWs are spiritually polluted and it is terminal. (Zech3:1-3; Rev8:10-12).

But as per pattern, JWs deny all this.

In other words JWs are heading for a judgment first (1Pet4:17) upon the exact same road, the same principle, the same pattern, the same prophecy, as all those they preach about who fell into organized apostasy just like JWs have now; (Dan11:32a; 2Thess2:3 - Hosea, Micah, Isaiah whole books). Except in like manner to the very patterns prior to JWs, taught by JWs, formerly recognized by JWs, JWs are now the ones fully blinded, in denial and the matter is made worse by being misled by the leaders erred direction, again, of what is now an installed cult and override that follows personalities of men, and distracts from the very essence of faith in God and Christ, and diminishes any true faith in sacrificial based undeserved kindness by works of men, in performance and counts, traditions and delusions of a former JW approved ministry of the distant 1930s and 1940s parroted over and over as if the valid past can cover the invalid JW present.

The Pharisee pattern is right at Bethel, but JWs are oblivious, focused on GB ring kisses.

I am not saying to not write a letter, but to do as you feel is right. What I am saying, that prophecy has already said numerous times, is JWs even now repeating the main pattern, are as in former manifestations of this pattern beyond human repair, and must now also face a divine accounting as they did at one time track UN activity and prophecy up to 1945, but no longer do so. By 1990 rather than expound the meaning of a 3rd UN placement after the cold war in 1990, Bethel instead placed their own UN "disgusting thing" in 1991-2001 as UN NGO (Matt24:15), and concealed the UN manifestation as per prophecy at Daniel 11:31b retaining defunct USSR fictions.

Rather than expound the meaning of a 3rd UN and 4th (final) UN placements present at Dan11:30-45, and it's obvious implications, JWs now act as if it is already done, and none of this final UN development makes any difference whatsoever. Somewhere between 1945 and 1990 JW leadership derailed and went UN, and JWs now cover up the obvious 8th King as King North in plain activation since 1990, the year Bethel went into misinformation mode for their UN partners. Like Christendom endorsing the "League of Nations", JWs now endorse the United Nations as historic public UN NGO, same pattern, same actual action, it too is a repeat.

And thus, for 22 years, prophecy is also now diverted and misapplied by the Bethel clergy. JWs are now hanging at Daniel 11:44, expecting that to manifest next. But Daniel 11:42-43 financial and world wealth globalization cycle under the 8th King is what is next, so JWs are overly advanced in the prophecy, and in the globalization process, and are expecting the end of the world "any day now". But rather, the Daniel 11:42-45 final 8th King cycle will take several years to accomplish to full internationalized government power over that final phase.

And in that period of Daniel 11:42-43 global debt intrigues, the 8th King will also become "ruler of the silver and the gold" and "all the desirable things" of also the Bethel world empire of now false religion, first (1Pet4:17). And in that disaster to befall JWs, going on for several years itself (Dan8:13-14; Hos6:1-3), forces beyond human will have to judge and remove the Bethel obstructions of the 1-2-3-4 UN super-cycle continuum, that JWs have been covering up since 1990 (Dan8:12b), with enough time to clean out JWs (Rev8-9 repeat; Zech3:4-5), and let it be known what a 4th UN placement really means at Daniel 11:44-45. (Rev10-11 repeat; Please read Rev:10:11 ch. 10 v. 11).

And that is why for now, human efforts cannot remove the Bethel cabal now in power and full ownership of all JW "desirable things". It is just a matter of time that the Bethel internal regime hands over Bethel to 8th King intrigues soon, as for at least 22 years all Bethel is positioned for such an event "at that time"; (WT 11/15/13 pg. 20, par. 17, directive #3), and "that time" is very near, as Bethel itself reminds JWs clearly. Except it is not the "end of the world", it is the BEGINNING of the final cycle of prophecy and globalization, and it merely is repeating as JWs should easily recognize, but have been deluded by purposeful misleading leaders at Bethel. The world cannot "end any day now" as JWs are misled to expect next to aid the implosion of Bethel, Bethel is the entity that can and will "end any day now".

So like the Warden's advice to Andy Dufrane, by all means write a letter, in fact write one every week. We are all doing Bethel time. Their will be a Bethel Redemption, and it will be global in impact. The GB Warden cannot be reformed but must be removed completely, it's basic premise of existence and Biblical precedent is not truthful in and of itself. Thus a lie, which the GB is in basic meaning not found in the Bible, is a bad experiment, nothing more, nothing less. A lie. (2Thess2:10-11). Things beyond human will befall the Bethel apostasy and center of organized lawlessness. (2Thess2:3-4, 8; 1Pet4:17). (And that long before the actual end, and as per repeating prophecy and pattern.)

Just like before, again, etc...

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Maintaining Faith In God As An Ex-JW

by pronomono in

as i fade further from the jws, i'm finding it increasingly hard to maintain faith in god.

i've been exploring many alternatives from atheism, agnostic, apathetic, pagan, and satanism (not devil worship, but the promotion of self-indulgence) to name a few.

i'm thoroughly intrigued to learn how those of you who remained christian managed to maintain your faith in god and christ, especially after enduring all the lies that we've been told about them.

anonymouz

Thus, as we see in our own case in some, the main purpose of the recent JW addition to the plethora of distraction ultimately undermines people's faith in God and the revelation of Him through the Bible and his main representative Jesus Christ.

Bethel proves, in time as have others, even well meaning religions end up controlled by men who are experts at control of people, by which is control of money and wealth. The "root of all evil" at Bethel, is that the WTS and GB and the rest are by and large lovers of money and power, and in that root corruption everything else soon develops and displays fruitage as such in spite of the "holy men's" claims the lemon tree of corruption is a plum tree of love. It is not, that love, God, Christ and Bible natural attraction of man with a spiritual need, is merely the bait these kinds of spiritual predators use to attract in people and to extract their money and work power with gradually applied corruptive deceptions unto systemic terminal condition.

So it again, as in the apostle's time or Israel's time, or Noah's time equals the same fundamental pattern of corruption explained in Adamic divergence from God. It just keeps replicating in new forms of the same old love of money and power needing to disguise itself effectively to attain that desire and object.

The Bible itself recounts the pattern over and over and so it is in JW repeating form also seen, the only document actually describing the generic basic of the development consitently is the Bible. Like human history, it repeats because the basic base elements of greed and deception also repeat (and expand), and also are present in JWs while in repeating fashion, they too are blinded to it's repeating principle evident in repeating examples of Bethel corruption. It is like a fractal of the whole world's various organizational corruptions directed to power purposes, is merely perfectly reflected in Bethel's own development.

Thus if we stay detached from the central distraction all this scandal and puppetry creates away from the basic developmental reality, we see the big play, the main stage, the big truth, the big picture, the repeating principle, the repeating consequences to manifest soon, are all contained in the Bible truth script. Human liars do not make Christ or God also a lie, it is human corruption always reflects on God and Christ and man's "image of God" is the core reproach in the affect of such lawlessness. And it distracts people from the reality, God already described the whole condition of the world and Bethel's microcosm of it, in basic principle and details of the development of corruption. JWs merely repeat what many have manifested in time previously.

No surprise really, it just requires an impartial assessment.

So as ironic as it is focusing on God through Christ with Bible reading and prayer aid, removing the corruptive distraction from it's inserted mediation as the JW organization, actually then turns rampant corruption into but more evidence of the Bible's veracity in completely describing the basic motives, clues of operation, patterns and outcome. Lawless Bethel merely repeats a pattern (2Thess2:1-4) that indicates more replication of the overall picture will also follow suit. (Zech3, for example).

Strangely, with the proper persepctive, Bethel lawlessness actually builds stronger faith, when we see God has foretold also Bethel's downfall and accounting. It also has a freeing effect into the reality of undeserved kindness by God on an individual basis through Christ, not dependent on Bethel's modern papacy. (In fact requiring the removal of the Bethel leavened self imposed mediation, which works against faith in God, Christ and actual undeserved kindness by virtue of Christ's merit, not the GB "Pope", and not ourselves - Bethel is very self conscious and self focused and guilt inspiring to aid control of the JW person by such inner strings and delusions actually anti-sacrificial and anti-Christ in overall effects).

That is why trusting men and organization is a sure recipe for eventually not trusting God and not having faith in Christ and undeserved kindness therein, and not seeing the Bible truth, but rather the human diversion and all it's scandal and distractions is all we see soon. To me Bethel corruptive implosion will equal a far more serious actual implosion, as they too, collectively will also reap what they sow, because no one can for long use God and Christ as the well engineered shill for what is just a manmade con.

Thus as hidden as Bethel tries to keep their greed and power lusts, is also as well hidden their objective is to also damage faith in humans, and to use their lawless developments as the central focus of distraction away from divine truths, as the more one concentrates on Bethel hypocrisy, the further one drifts away from faith in God. People have a hard time understanding greedy men have purpose in their planning and activities.

So a balance must be met, Bethel are not representatives of God but tools of greed and deception, plain and simple, merely disguised in contrary claims of hyper-piety. (2Cor11:13-15). So, yes, we need to recognize corruption in action, but when we read the Bible corruption descriptions of say Isaiah, Micah or 2Thess2:1-12 leading in time to naturally catalyzed retribution, we need to see Bethel as well in those Bible patterns and pictures of common easily seen elements that undeniably repeat, as does the overall lack of recognition of the basic red flags of the replication in action.

It cannot just repeat in part, when we use the Bible as a guide and basic logic, the whole thing is an active replication of principles JWs use to describe Jerusalem and Christendom, repeating in Bethel, but as per the repeating principle, JWs too are blinded and miseld by greedy leaders. Bethel is a Xerox copy, a cellular split, a pea in the same pod, a bird of the same feather - and yet JWs see only the dominant illusion.

Rather than not read the Bible, we just read it to see descriptions from the past, of things now evident in Bethel's own corruption, and they are not the only ones, it is just that their claims to the contrary are commensurate with the reciprocal disguise effect they cover-up what is actually grand lawlessness and complete blasphemy with. They are rather amazing, because the more grand their claims of divinity (2Thess2:4), the more effective is their disguise, and the more astounding is their actuality as even UN worshipers (Dan11:30b-31), they are surreal, and that detachment to seeming reality is what greatly aids their overall operation of greed, control, power and the love of wealth. JWs simply cannot and do not want to believe what is really in operation; (2Thess2:3)

The disguise present in the GB/Bethel claims, but removed in their actual spiritual barbarity and abuse of children and adults and all common sense now, is what keeps JWs showing up in part. And the use of many old JW props of former JW history and it's traditions, dialogue and jargon, is merely plagiarized and presented in endless repeating hypnotic fashion to further the illusion everything is fine and dandy. But it is not. The quest for God and Christ also keeps JW sheep magnetized to a Bethel wolf pack, and will continue as if it is perpetual 1980 until the sham is fully revealed fully in what has to equal an eventual abruption and Bethel organizational dysfunction to complete the theft. (2Thess2:8).

The GB and WTS spiritual criminals are not there for no reason, and it is not the reason they claim. In time, something big has to give. And the Bible truth has the basic pattern of what it is that will give way. And since it has repeated on numerous occasions, the Bethel system is not immune, in fact it sets itself up for such a finale, it is now intuitive, logical, algorithmic, formulaic as well as certain and prophetic. Bethel is humpty dumpty on the wall for now. Lukewarm, divided, and sitting on the fence, not fully Christian and not fully Satanic, but a well engineered mix; (Rev8:10-11).

And we know what Jesus said about divided kingdoms. But Bethel fits all the basic principles of a downfall to come. A judgment. No one, not Bethel or any other can play with God and not risk a certain accounting in time. That is the only thing that can remove the new main distraction.

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Ancient aliens

by DS211 in

does anyone believe or put any truth to the stuff on this show?

from what i can see its pretty cool stuff.

seems to tie in a lot of social ideas about religions and prayer and interaction with a spirit realm.

anonymouz

Actually for sake of argument for conspiracy theorists, many of whom are accredited researchers and experts in various fields, the whole interest in these micro-histories is greatly affected by the internet accessibility to what was once a trip to the library for one one thousandth of the available information.

To simplify matters for those interested in angels, aliens, ancient civilization, supernatural technology, secret societies, mystical priesthoods, world government and so on, the Bible has it all in very basic form, reducing much research time and tangent into to "wild conspiracies".

The Bible provides the historic and future "big picture" with a logical framework of where is is leading to.

Aliens/Angels

Genesis 6, Eze28:12-17, Eph6:12, 2Pet2:4-5, 1Pet3:19-20, Jude 6, Jon 8:44, Gen3:15, has the basic basis for angels who rebelled from God and are obsessed with planetary domination of earth and it's inhabitants. Since angels are from "heavenly places" and "the remotest parts of the north" as deep universal spaces (Eze38), they can be equated with aliens and the barrier between the two formed by religion, vanishes. They are the same guys.

Mystical Priesthood

The highest controlling order of all secret societies with this alignment is that fairly modern term "Illuminati".

Revelation 13:11 is this chief council in symbol of their governmental order as "two horned wildbeast". (Secretive, note that dual-horn wildbeast does not draw worship to itself) They are the main "image of the wildbeast" global architects. (Rev13:11-15). Which is little more than the United Nations related world governmental schematic international forum (1919, 1945, 1990, future), which connects representatives and technocrats there, to the top elites of 200 nations as a sort of cerebral hub of the real sovereign power of these nations, as wealth is actually the power that architects the national government and military.

Finance is the means to acquire more of that wealth power for the top echelon. For 300 years they have been working full time in the Anglo order (and later American), and that is where the global wealth has been gradually consolidating for that whole period. Aiding national elites in the process of doing the same, and aligning it into a "scarlet wildbeast" 8th Kingdom super-sovereignty ultimately, is why the UN hub exists as a collective for unification. It is not the complete "world government", just it's nucleus.

Masons

Revelation 17:1-18; As a typical example of the top controllers of the national masses to actually "build" this 8th Kingdom, we have the "Masonic" type orders. As the name implies, these are "structural" "workers". These align with all those nation members in the UN (and other specialized international hubs) from elite sovereigns of those approximate 200 nations. Some amongst these may be used in "two horned wildbeast" type technocratic roles. But overall the name "Masons" itself applies to the actual national administration of building this "city" of world government in all these national powers whose elites are aligning the sovereign wealth power for international use and sovereign scale.

Thus the Bible does actually distinguish the two main developmental groups, working as one for a unified purpose of world rulership to be presented globally in about a decade's time.

World Government

Genesis 10-11. Actually it is not a conspiracy theory, but the Genesis 10-11 national roots of all mankind when at that time implied King Nimrod attempted to found the first "embryonic globalism" and the first globalized world kingdom. Nimrod of Bible and world history, is the high priest and king of all illumination and Masonic meaning in the administration and guiding planning of the main cities (and concept) of his domain and the "tower of Babel" as the symbol of this attempted globalized civilization. Nimrod is basically the first human "globalist".

That Gen11 globalization project was met with a divine intervention in language confusion which has greatly delayed world government as finally now being revisited in the above forms as Rev13:11-15 lead architects and forum "image" and Revelation 17:8-11 , and Revelation 17:12-18 final actual infrastructure based on sovereign transference of national power to international government. (Rev17:11-18).

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Thus in the most basic of terms, as all this boils down to barley two pages of actual Bible text, the whole framework of this focus of "conspiracy theory" is already present in the Bible, and in human history as all national roots of Genesis 10 are also world histories and linguistic developmental basics any one can Google to find out more about the 70 nations of Genesis 10. It is not fiction nor conspiracy, it has all taken place in broad daylight with nearly full disclosure of world government intent the whole time.

Daniel 2, 7, 8 and 11 and Revelation 13 and 17 contain the historical national progression as a framework that will equate to a globalization project completion (Dan11:45) similar in intent to Nimrod's Babel nucleus in Genesis 11, but in now worldwide distributed form as internationalization of world government, based on the patterns many see in the Bible and in active development in the world system reaching a culmination in the Daniel 11:42-45 final sequence.

This is all easily affirmed in at least basic form by Google searched information in volumes. Keeping to the basic framework and outline of the Bible IDs of these things, helps sift the voluminous available research and keep it cohesive - to put the big picture together as they say - as to overall meaning which is completed 8th Kingdom world government versus Jesus Christ's completed Messianic Kingdom and the full forces of the very real: Kingdom of God - including GOD Himself! (The Armageddon formula; Dan11:42-45 + Rev17:12-18 = Rev16:13-16).

That day must arrive several years from now, like Nimrod, the world's elites of today will see to that - massive national bankruptcy will provide the final wealth transference and international control (Dan11:42-43). (That is why the resolution of this globalized affront to God once again like in Gen11, is at Zephaniah 3:8-9 a reset of the human language to the original, as that was confused at the first globalization project 4000 years ago, and this ties it all back to that origination, but in final "8th King" form and final divine intervention, just like Gen11, but larger in scale, yet again affecting human communication:

(Zephaniah 3:8-9) “‘Therefore keep yourselves in expectation of me,’ is the utterance of Jehovah, ‘till the day of my rising up to [the] booty, for my judicial decision is to gather nations, for me to collect together kingdoms, in order to pour out upon them my denunciation, all my burning anger; for by the fire of my zeal all the earth will be devoured. 9 For then I shall give to peoples the change to a pure language, in order for them all to call upon the name of Jehovah, in order to serve him shoulder to shoulder.’

(Genesis 11:1, 4, 7-8) Now all the earth continued to be of one language and of one set of words.

(Genesis 11:4) They now said: “Come on! Let us build ourselves a city and also a tower with its top in the heavens, and let us make a celebrated name for ourselves, for fear we may be scattered over all the surface of the earth.”

(Genesis 11:7-8) Come now! Let us go down and there confuse their language that they may not listen to one another’s language.” 8 Accordingly Jehovah scattered them from there over all the surface of the earth, and they gradually left off building the city.

It ALL the same story really.

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New Article on BEARDS and Attire of Jehovah's Witnesses

by jwfacts in

i have had requests to add an article about beards and jehovah's witnesses.

it is interesting that there is virtually no statement that says a witness cannot have a beard, yet universally they do not have beards.

i have scoured quotes from all the threads on jwn, all references to beard on the cd watchtower library, and copies of elders letters that i have.

anonymouz

If I am not mistaken the Proclaimers book has a man from India, maybe an elder or missionary with a beard, just for reference. I think the JW dress code is actually a form of "special garb" as the JW "rank and file" laity forms beneath the organizational "clergy" all under the Governing Body papal collective Pope, ruling from the neo-Vatican Bethel. Thus many things about the transformed JW system of "Christanity", like it's uniform visual significance to the group, is actually part of a secular style corporate competition complex, more like a business with status symbols, super-stars, slackers and ego boosters merely disguised under a veneer clothed in a ministry and using various plausibilities to sell materialism off as spirituality.

Minutes, hours and years are counted like beans and are the currency of the commerce of spirituality.

In the end it is not spiritual unless it can be seen and counted, and thus the WT rulebook also replaces the Bible rule book, and a sterilized stiff version of a Baptist church emerges as a JW trade show and perpetual job interview atmosphere replacing the stylized classic church with also a windowless bland box called a Kingdom hall, with windowless bland worshipers called JWs, with minds and "eyes of faith" boarded up by, and directed to, Bethel's Papacy through the WT peephole.

The Watctower has become a dungeon.

It appears everything has gradually morphed in JWs creating a microcosm of nicely disguised "Christendom" in the JW ritual based mutated religion, as the JW "Christendom" clone once again requires a deliverance and liberation from the "bondage" of Bethel Babylon, it's Jezebel "mother".

In such case, Gerrit Loesch is Assyrian King Sennacherib, the GB is collective "Haman" of post 1914 "Babylon" deliverance betrayal, and smart JWs have fled to the mountains as per Matt24:15. It all clearly repeats on the JW supposed experts of the principle of repetition and types, yet in repeating manner JWs are blind to it all, everyone else is the apostate, everything sinful applies to Christendom and Jerusalem, the Bethel golden calves are god, good is bad, bad is good, and so on...

Yet JWs can detect a 5 o'clock shadow, or worse, a beard... Very effective gnat straining techs too boot.

A beard, brandy and cigar in the KH library might actually be a nice change. It can't be any worse than a Bethel UN NGO centerpeice. (The JW version of Christendom's "League of Nations" endorsement of the 1920s). It actually is ALL repeating, even 1Peter 4:17!

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it's hard to believe it was only a little over a year ago i received my first official rbc assignment.

i was so excited i posted about it on facebook, to many likes from my fellow jw friends.. fast forward to this year, learning ttatt and fading (last meeting was the memorial and special talk).. i've received my fourth email, in the past two months, asking for rbc help.. stifling urge to hit reply all, with a jwfacts and candace conti case web link.... isn't it amazing how much your life and worldview can change in 1 year?.

anonymouz

Ah the RBC, how to convert millions in JW dough, to millions in WT properties, all for free!

I awoke rather quickly myself, and the Christ Memorial observance was also my last in 2012. In 2011 I restudied the UN NGO info I found in 2010 I think. It was a can of worms, but nothing tops the UN NGO in a spiritual meaning, it is a red flag Bethel is not only corrupted, but not even actually Christians running the place. (Matt24:15).

I had to observe the Matt24:15 warning of Christ:

(Matthew 24:15-16) “Therefore, when you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation (UN NGO), as spoken of through Daniel the prophet (1990 Dan11:31b parallel to Dan8:13-14), standing in a holy place (Bethel's claim), (let the reader use [1990] discernment,) 16 then let those in (JW worldwide) Judea begin fleeing to the mountains. (leave JWs, disaster is near, so is the accounting...).