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  Show this to the young ones in the congregation

  by EdenOne in

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  2. scandals

  hopefully it will make them think.. .

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  Show this to the young ones...

  "Paul who? Oh, that guy. My grandad listens to him"
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  Just heard this song streaming on Internet radio, "Jehovah Witness Girl"

  by undercover in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  bluesy country song by a guy named scott snake miller.

  lyrics cut/pasted from his website.... .

  still wide awake ,heard a knock on my door comin down off of somethin from the night before.. looked out the window and what did i see?a pretty girl waitin for me.. she started blamin the devil for all my mistakes,talked of worship and prayer so i tried to relate.. i guess god could'nt make it so he must of sent her,the jehova witness girl.. she left me a booklet to read when i can i said yes i will surely do that mam.. full of colorful pictures,spiritual scenes i read up to page 23.. it said when the wrath of the lord brings the world to an end if i get my shit straight then i just might get in.. cause i aint on the guest list so i'm takin my turn with jehova witness girl.

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  Bluesy country song by a guy named Scott Snake Miller. Lyrics cut/pasted from his website...

  STILL WIDE AWAKE ,HEARD A KNOCK ON MY DOOR COMIN DOWN OFF OF SOMETHIN FROM THE NIGHT BEFORE.

  LOOKED OUT THE WINDOW AND WHAT DID I SEE?A PRETTY GIRL WA I TIN FOR ME.

  SHE STARTED BLAMIN THE DEVIL FOR ALL MY MISTAKES,TALKED OF WORSHIP AND PRAYER SO I TRIED TO RELATE.

  I GUESS GOD COULD'NT MAKE IT SO HE MUST OF SENT HER,THE JEHOVA WITNESS GIRL.

  SHE LEFT ME A BOOKLET TO READ WHEN I CAN I SAID YES I WILL SURELY DO THAT MAM .

  FULL OF COLORFUL PICTURES,SPIRITUAL SCENES I READ UP TO PAGE 23.

  IT SAID WHEN THE WRATH OF THE LORD BRINGS THE WORLD TO AN END IF I GET MY SHIT STRAIGHT THEN I JUST MIGHT GET IN.

  CAUSE I AINT ON THE GUEST LIST SO I'M TAKIN MY TURN WITH JEHOVA WITNESS GIRL.

  JEHOVA WITNESS GIRL,LITTLE BLACK HEELS AND HER HAIR IN A TWIRL .

  I'M ON POOR TERMS WITH GOD BUT I KINDA LIKE HER.JEHOVA WITNESS GIRL.

  THERE'S A GUY WHO COMES WITH HER,I GUESS HER CHAPERONE. I GUESS I DON'T LIKE THAT GUY TO MUCH AT ALL.

  HE JUST DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO MY SPIRITUAL NEEDS,HE'S LIKE A DOG BARKIN UP THE WRONG TREE.

  BUT I FEEL A CONNECTION WHEN SHE'S TALKIN TO ME.MY HEART JUST WAKES UP AND I HEAR ANGELS SING.

  GOD COMES IN ALL FORMS AND SHE'S GOT ONE FOR SURE.JEHOVA WITNESS GIRL.

  JEHOVA WITNESS GIRL TRYIN TO SAVE ME FROM THIS BIG OL BAD WORLD.

  I MAY NOT RISE TO HEAVEN BUT I MIGHT FALL FOR HER. JEHOVA WITNESS GIRL.

  THERE'S A PICTURE OF DAVID ON PAGE 29.RED HAIRED,FRECKLED AND PROBABLY BLUE EYES.

  HE LOOKS JUST LIKE THE SON OF THE LOCAL BAD MAN,CRAZY OLD MIKE CALLAHAN.

  MAYBE MIKE HAS DESCENDED FROM THE GREAT KING HIMSELF.HE'S A PRETTY GOOD FIGHTER AND HE'LL DRINK TO YOUR HEALTH.

  AND ONE MORE THING IN COMMON,THEY BOTH WOULD LIKE HER.THE JEHOVA WITNESS GIRL.
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  The Witness beliefs remind me of the Nazis and ISIS

  by NAVYTOWN in

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  the nazi regime hated jews, gays, jws and other minorities.

  so they solved the 'problem' by exterminating them.

  the current isis group hates jews and christians and beheads those it considers 'enemies' and 'infidels'.

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  It's not a big step, at least philosophically, from "do things my way or God will kill you" to "do things my way or I will kill you".

  It would be interesting to ask a JW how they feel about the radical Islamic idea of killing apostes. I'm sure they would be against it. Then show them WT statements that lend itself to the same idea philosophically, even though not actually sanctioned
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  How to make the most of wife not going to service meeting?

  by FadeToBlack in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  out of the blue, my wife told me that after this week's service meeting on friday (co visit) she is not going to anymore meetings during the week at night.

  only sunday (am) meetings.

  she explained that it is difficult and not safe for her to drive after dark (vision issues: i have the same problem so i couldn't help her if i wanted to).

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  Parden my ADD mind as I go through some scenerios here...

  If she has a good support system at the hall, expect others to offer to pick her up for mid week meetings. The elders might even enlist someone. Be on the on lookout for busybodies...

  I also wonder, not knowing anything about the situation... if this is just an excuse on her part to not have to go. She'll go to Sunday meetings for awhile, and find excuses to miss some of them even. Is something going on that has discouraged her?

  And on that thought, I wonder this... how many elderly ones are discouraged about the whole 'overlapping generation' thing. If they're a certain age, and they start to realize that they aren't going to live to see 'the end', would that prompt them to slow down?

  And as I keep sidebarring... who needs the Kingdom Hall anyway? When you've got 24 hour JW TV, you can get instant spiritual nourishment without even having to put your pants on. Forget putting on a suit and driving in the dark thru a bad part of town to a KH...

  Anyhooo... this is the perfect opportunity to use this new free time to get her interested in other things. Together you can enjoy TV shows, or maybe cooking together, hobbies, anything that keeps her occupied. Choose activities that you know interest her, and maybe never had time for before. After awhile, you may find she'll want to share her Sunday mornings with you doing her new favorite activity, instead of going to the hall.
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  WT Study 26th Oct. '14

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i could find another thread so i thought i might add a few comments here - not a full critique though.

  "hear jehovah's voice wherever you are".

  http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20140815/hear-jehovahs-voice/.

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  Thanks, OUTLAW... I literally LOL'd at that re-titled graphic. Good one...
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  Life is short and I'm gonna love it thread!

  by poopsiecakes in

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  so what are you doing to enjoy yourself?

  doesn't have to be for anyone around you, or have anything to do with jw world.

  just something that you do for you and only you and that fills your soul (whatever that means).

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  Traveling. Other countries and cultures. Expanding horizens and learning how people live in other parts of the world, and coming to appreciate them.

  Partake in certain holidays, like Halloween. Don't really care about religious holidays like Xmas or Easter, but I do like Xmas lights, parties and the holiday spirit, so I go to the parties and wish everyone a Merry Xmas. And the booze is fun too.

  Enjoying friendship with people who don't have a JW background. Amazing how 'normal', and well adjusted most of these people are.

  Sleeping in on Saturdays, and then relaxing in a coffee shop mid morning, watching dubs come in all dressed up. It brings a moment of satisfaction to the revenge of living well and not having to serve a religious publication company.

  Sleeping in on Sundays, and cooking breakfast for the family, and relaxing for a bit.

  Visiting wineries, or brew pubs on Sundays, and watching NFL football, not having to get dressed up and sit in a stuffy building, or knock on doors, peddling magazines.

  Watching any movie/TV show that intersts me without having to worry about the rating, or 'stumbling' 'weaker' dumb dubs

  Same for reading material, especially books on history, world events, personalities and ideas.

  Live music shows. Not just large concerts of major artists, but local bars/clubs watching local bands, regional bands, and underground artists.

  I've experimented in, um, substances, and finally found my groove on my favorite way to unwind, which after experimentation I realized I do not need illegal vices, but does consists of a wide array of brewed, fermented, or distilled beverages. Oh wait... some of those distilled beverages are illegal...

  ... and lest I forget:

  Pokes Poopsie
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  The REAL purpose of the new 1914 explanation video...

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  when a dub starts to question an elder about this doctrine (at the kh, field circus or wherever), the elder will only need to utter these words: "just watch the video".... .

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  OTWO wins the JWD Grammy for 'best song of the year'. Good job!
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  JAN 2015 Awake - Yet More Fallacies and Disingenuous Statements re Evolution/Creation

  by konceptual99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so the new awake is up.. first question..... "how did life begin?.

  how would you complete the following sentance?.

  life is the result of..... a. evolution.

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  "For example, the Bible does not support creationism. It does not state that the earth was created in six literal 24-hour days"

  Ah, good ole WT juke and jive. They try so hard to distance themselves from loopy creationists who believe the earth is less than 10,000 years old, yet per their still official (never recanted in print) doctrine, each creative day is 7000 years each.

  Exodus 20:11 says that the heavens and earth were created in six days. If each creative day is 7,000 years each per WT dogma, the heavens and earth would be less than 50,000 years old.

  The difference between 6000 and 50000 is miniscule when comparing 6000 or 50000 vs 13.8 billion. They don't want to be lumped in with creationists, yet they are exactly that.
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  Awake January 2015: How did life begin? - More misquotes

  by Designer Stubble in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  [quote]some might assume that a scientifically-minded person would pick evolution and that a religious person would pick creation.

  but not always.. rama singh, professor of biology at canadas mcmaster university, says: the opposition to evolution goes beyond religious fundamentalism and includes a great many people from educated sections of the population.[/quote].

  end-of-quote in awake.

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  marked

  I'd be interested to see if he responds, and shared here
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  Service meeting video....what a non-event

  by sir82 in

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  at our service meeting we saw the video of a jw explaining his beliefs about 1914.. it was.....well, "underwhelming" does not do it justice.

  what is below "underwhelming"?

  "boringly tepid"?.

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  how do you continue as an elder? You certainly are not misled and I understand the family situation, but how can you continue as an elder knowing what you know?

  You heard of the French Resistance during WWII, right? Though occupied by the Nazis, many French continued their daily lives, making a show of obeying their new rulers, while behind the scenes working with the Allies to disrupt anything Nazi related. Some were armed and ready to fight, while others were more of an underground press, distributing news and creating passage for people to escape the Nazis.

  While up front guerrilla warfare is pointless with the WTS, an underground free press, so to speak, as provider of accurate information about the enemy, can help people tunnel their way free of the oppressors. Even if it's only to free your immediate family, it may well be worth the effort to stay underground, working against the WTS' efforts to rule your family.