Posts by Comatose

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STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH! Possible shift in position from the WTBTS on the global vs local deluge.

by marmot in

a buddy of mine recently sent me a link to the official wtbts facebook page and i thought what the hey, let's see what they have to say about the question that made me fade in the first place.

much to my surprise, they answered!

you may already be aware that the general position of jehovah's witnesses is briefly stated here:.

Comatose

Interesting - "We are not scientists, of course. and it is quite possible that when one adheres rigorously to scientific precepts, that it is simply not possible for many of them to accept a global flood just 4,000 years ago. Therefore, we have no doubt that scientists are generally quite honest about their understanding of the evidence."

They acknowledge that adhering to scientific precepts precludes a person from believing the flood. LOL

No sane rational non brainwashed person can believe it. How enlightened of them to concede this point.

Yes, I'd love to know what they say about ice cores among other things. I have a strong feeling it will be am answer that is wordy but says nothing of substance. It wil reference sciences current understandings and how they change occasionally. Or some other horse poop.

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Proof of Noah's Flood - Presently watching a Documentary about Europe & the Ice Age

by *lost* in

first time i ever heard anyone say there was 'proof' of noah's flood.. very interesting,.

showed a trawler, where the team dredges regularly in the north sea - for animal bones, massive land animal bones, mammoths.. he said, originally, the bones were sent for analysis, and the dr stated, they were proof of noah's flood.. the north sea area was a land mass of dry grazing lands.

and it was very similar to africa.. many bones were found in london, of lions, hippos, etc ... when they were digging out the underground.. .

Comatose

Lol imagine that. There is not evidence.

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Something odd just happened when I logged on!

by tornapart in

i typed in my name, password and the captcha, expecting to see my name come up in the top right corner and what i actually saw was someone else's name!

(the name was another member of this board).

i looked at it for a few seconds feeling a bit puzzled and not sure what to do about it and as i looked it automatically changed (whithout me doing anything) back to my own name.. has anyone else had this happen to them?

Comatose

Happened to me yesterday. Freaked me out.

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Black Christains

by His Excellency in

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vlwua3chumk.

Comatose

That man is so hard to listen to. Spastic and crazy.

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Proof the bible was NOT inspired by god.

by Comatose in

one of the first things i did when i was trying to face my doubts about the bibles inspiration was to read it.

as jws we are always told to read daily, but you can't get much sense of context or continuity when you read a chapter or two a day.

so, i knew if i was going to give up on the religion and/or the bible it would only be after i had actually read and researched.

Comatose

Yes, that's my understanding as well. It sure makes a funny picture to imagine a man trying to straddle both a donkey and a colt at the same time. Haha.

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Proof the bible was NOT inspired by god.

by Comatose in

one of the first things i did when i was trying to face my doubts about the bibles inspiration was to read it.

as jws we are always told to read daily, but you can't get much sense of context or continuity when you read a chapter or two a day.

so, i knew if i was going to give up on the religion and/or the bible it would only be after i had actually read and researched.

Comatose

You know I can understand details of events in regular life being related slightly different. Like miracles that happened being relayed a little differently. Or whether Jesus rode a colt or a donkey into Jerusalem (or both at the same time). But, something as important as what god said in one of the few times he spoke ever. Or what the most important man who ever lived said at his death and how he felt about it all. Those things would just have to be recorded correctly if gods Holy Spirit inspired the bible.

JWs feel that when you read a bible verse it is like god talking to you. Or that the verse is exactly what gods thoughts on the matter are. Or that god ensured that the exact correct details were given to us. So what happens when the details of the most important parts don't match?

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Proof the bible was NOT inspired by god.

by Comatose in

one of the first things i did when i was trying to face my doubts about the bibles inspiration was to read it.

as jws we are always told to read daily, but you can't get much sense of context or continuity when you read a chapter or two a day.

so, i knew if i was going to give up on the religion and/or the bible it would only be after i had actually read and researched.

Comatose

Yes Ding, but the example you site regarding the wall is with people and their spins on the event. There is no Holy Spirit to make sure the inspired truth is recorded. That makes the bible examples we are speaking about completely different. If god himself inspired the bible and it is his word, then a reasonable person would expect the most important parts to be recorded under inspiration and to match.

But, god didn't cause the accounts to match. Some accounts do, some don't. And the spirit and feeling doesn't match either. In one Jesus is at peace and calm, in the other he is distraught and forsaken. Then for the baptism, one of THE ONLY times god speaks, it is not clear exactly what he said or to whom. Those are important details.

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Fading ... Do You Owe Witness Friends An Explanation?

by What Now? in

i'm curious about what you all think on this subject.

when my husband and i became irregular about a year ago, and then inactive around 5 months ago, i felt that it would be hypocritical to take advantage of the social side of the witness community if we weren`t going to meetings or in service.

we stopped entertaining (which we did quite regularly - theme parties, card parties, movie nights, big turkey dinners, breakfasts on holidays etc), and i slowly stopped accepting invitations for get togethers, playdates etc.

Comatose

That was very poetic. Nice!

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If you were a District Attorney what charges would you charge Jehovah God with?

by booker-t in

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my friend hector who is an ex-jw had me laughing so hard i started crying when he asked me this question.

i was over his house for coffee one day and somehow the subject came up and he said jehovah has to accept some of the blame for the problems of the world.

he said if he were da he would charge jehovah with child endangerment and child neglect(killing all of the children in the flood, sodom and gommorrah, 42 kids with the bears in the ot) he also said he would charge jehovah with flip flopping on his own laws such as you can eat meat(after the flood) then certain meats were forbidden(leviticus laws such as rabbit, beef, duck,) then nt said you can eat all meats again.

Comatose

Leaving the scene of a crime.

Failure to assist or help.

Manslaughter for allowing deaths that could be prevented. Example - SIDS with newborns. A miracle could keep that innocent baby alive easily.

Murder at the flood.

Animal cruelty.

Arson

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Proof the bible was NOT inspired by god.

by Comatose in

one of the first things i did when i was trying to face my doubts about the bibles inspiration was to read it.

as jws we are always told to read daily, but you can't get much sense of context or continuity when you read a chapter or two a day.

so, i knew if i was going to give up on the religion and/or the bible it would only be after i had actually read and researched.

Comatose

Well, that makes Jesus someone who suffers from multiple personality disorder to me. I can't argue with what you believe. It's everyone's right to believe what they want. But, to me the evidence is there to show that the details are different.

Would you agree that there is a strange difference in what god said at his baptism?