Posts by Brummie

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Were You Obsessed With Demons?

by minimus in

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from my youngest days, i remember being told that we should be careful because of the demons.

they are everywhere, just waiting to pounce on us.

we were told to stay away from windchimes since they "attract" the demons.

Brummie

Yep there was demons in everything....

demons were connected to all forms of nocotine, thats 20 demons per packet. Naturally you could be stylish and get Euro demons by buying nicotine from France.

One of the anointed in our cong was told by elders that her wall painting had demons connected to it, she obviousley wasnt spiritual enough to notice demons when they looked her in the face.

there were about 120 demons in our KH, all dressed in ties and suits. 3 of them in particular enjoyed sitting the lesser demons through Judicial committees.

demon stories were told in JW circles all the time, one sister reckoned that she knew a sister that heard a noise in her wardrobe and when she opened the door the flamin demon punched her on the nose...

Strange how the devil becomes omnipresent in JW circles yet God is only situated in one place (just above Brooklyn bethel), they claim "worship" means to give a lot of undue attention to anything other than the creator, are they devil worshippers?

Brummie

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Dont get your twickers in a nist

by sleepy in

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dont get your twickers in a nist.. we all know the wible is brong and the boverning gody are jerks.. sometimes we all make mistooks and some of us wo dong.. i wish i could keep gis thoing but i'm stook.

Brummie

Eeerm, I rattled my bottles in roluxes yard.......sorry :(

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Please welcome my new buddy pal!

by Lin in

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hey y'all, please give a big welcome to "iwasyoungonce"!!!

he's been doing alot to help others and has decided to join us here too!

he's done alot on silentlambs guestbook as well as on my group.

Brummie

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeellllcooooooommmmmeeeeeeee

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Why not cattleprods intstead?

by Brummie in

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just a quickie....about 3 years ago a talk was given at the kh where pregnant women were asked to monitor thier unborn babies movement, it was suggested that if the child moves around during meetings that mother should gently prod the belly with a pencil in order to learn the unborn baby that he/she shouldnt fidgit during meeting hours, it was kind of a behavioural tactic!!!!!

does anyone know if that was ever written down in any mags?.......poor kids, discipline starts before they are even born in the wt...how sick.. .

coincidently i remember being told that it parents should let their unborn children listen to kingdom melodies as a relaxing therapy....no wonder the mental health of jws is pretty darn bad!.

Brummie

Just a quickie....about 3 years ago a talk was given at the KH where pregnant women were asked to monitor thier unborn babies movement, it was suggested that if the child moves around during meetings that mother should gently prod the belly with a pencil in order to learn the unborn baby that he/she shouldnt fidgit during meeting hours, it was kind of a behavioural tactic!!!!! Does anyone know if that was ever written down in any mags?.......Poor kids, discipline starts before they are even born in the WT...how sick.

Coincidently I remember being told that it parents should let their unborn children listen to Kingdom melodies as a relaxing therapy....no wonder the mental health of JWs is pretty darn bad!

What say yeah?

Brummie

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The Rules for Men

by teenyuck in

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i got this off of an epilepsy db....i am not sure if the guy who submitted it was joking or not.

we always hear "the rules" from the female side.

now here are the rules.

Brummie

<---rushing to be the first to rate this thread as "excellent"

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Take The Test!

by Dutchie in

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this is a genuine psychological test.

it is a story about a girl.

while at the funeral of her own mother, she met a guy whom she did not know.

Brummie

I got the answer wrong...in fact my answer was far more psychopathic than the correct answer. omg!

Brummie <---starts looking for an axe to swing around

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How The British Maximize Crime

by Nathan Natas in

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discuss?

from the nra magazine, america's 1st freedom, october 2002 issue.

how the british maximize crime by paul craig roberts .

Brummie

ashamed to say its all true! Though the farmer who shot the 2 had his sentence reduced to 5 years.

A list of other stupidities could also be added, including the fact that a burgular could break into your home trip over a ripped carpet then sue you for any damages caused in the trip, ie, sprained ankle etc!

Brummie

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Please Can You Advise My Ex?

by Englishman in

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i recently mentioned that my ex-wife cindy had lost her father in very unpleasant circumstances.

i spoke to her yesterday, and she gave me some information that i would like to share.

hopefully, i can garner some useful information here that i can pass on to her via an email link to this site.. cindy's aged father was a devout jw.

Brummie

Seems the warden and the JWs share a common ground...neglect!

Expose them both to the newspapers, the JWs wont be so slow to see if he had a written will.

Condolences to Cindy and the family on his passing away, this must be a real blow.

Regards

Brummie

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WT claims to be The Christ

by Brummie in

here's a little study i did during the days of interest: .

rutherford claimed that the 144000 were the christ, russel did to, wt today believes the same thing.

watchtower exulting their 14000 to same level christ: .

Brummie

Blues: Exalted - yes , but definately subordinate. In all my time at meetings I never heard it implied that they were on a level with the Christ.

Blues this quote is out of the liveforever book which only ceased being used a short while ago:

No longer will they be Christs subjects but they will then be kings with him in Gods long promised Kingdom Government. (You Can Live Forever In Paradise On Earth P136)

Neo & Blues, I am not saying they are not subject, they are saying it. I hadnt heard this said in the meetings either, but there are a lot of things they dont say in order to appear acceptable. They do not intend being subject (subordinate) to Christ. They consider themselves equal though Jesus is considered of higher rank. This is a doctrine that JWs need to investigate the roots of as those of "the anointed" believed that they were the complete Christ, not little christs but CHRIST in total. Jesus as the head they as the body made the complete whole, without them Jesus was not the complete thing

The root is as follows:

"enable students of the Lords word to see that the mystery of God is THE CHRIST, HEAD and BODY, that THE MESSIAH or MYSTERY CLASS is developed through the gospel ages, and that thereafter 'times of refreshing' shall come when the restitution blessings for mankind will be put into operation" The Watchtower, 1st November 1917

Additionally:

"They are to be members in particular of that great prophet and life giver CHRIST and will share in the work of life giving, restoring the dead and dying world to perfection, hence the term 'Everlasting Father' as well as every other title of the Head is to be shared by his joint heirs and co-workers." (Zion's Watchtower. Feb 1888, p.1007)

They are the everlasting father and everything that Christ is, its not a matter of just interpreting what the word "Christ" ie "Anointed" means, its a matter of recognising a false christ, one that has replaced Jesus as the mediator or at least pushed him up a little on his seat and sat on it themselves, in the view above Jesus is a member just as they are. This would explain why they currently have no mediator for the great crowd since they themselves still secretly believe they are Christ and nothing more is needed than to recognise them for salvation.

When Russell spoke of the 144,000 he did not simply refer to them as being sinners saved by grace because of Christ sacrifice but he actually referred to them as being sharers in Christ sacrifice! This is totally unacceptable since Christ is the Lamb that takes away the sin of the world. Not them

In the appendix of Russell's booklet 'Tabernacle Shadows Of The Better Sacrifices' we are told:

"The underlying teaching of this booklet is the share which the church has in the sin-offering of Christ." (Appendix. page 133 1899)

Anastasia, will get back to your post, Cant spend too much time here now so have to press on.

Brummie

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WT claims to be The Christ

by Brummie in

here's a little study i did during the days of interest: .

rutherford claimed that the 144000 were the christ, russel did to, wt today believes the same thing.

watchtower exulting their 14000 to same level christ: .

Brummie

Here's a little study I did during the days of interest:

Rutherford claimed that the 144000 were the christ, russel did to, WT today believes the same thing.

Watchtower exulting their 14000 to same level Christ:

Think how wonderful it will be to have as rulers persons who proved faithful to God on earth, many of them even sacrificing their lives on behalf of the kingdomangels have not faced such kinds of testing so they would not fully understand what it is like to be a sinful human and to have the problems we humans do. But the 144,000 will understand therefore they will deal with their earthly subjects in an understanding way. Hebrews 2:17, 18.

(You can live forever in paradise on earth. P125 par 16)

Compare Bible message:

Consequently HE was obliged to become like his brothers in all respects that HE might become a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, in order to offer a propitiatory sacrifice for the sins of the people. FOR IN THAT HE HIMSELF has suffered when being put to the test, HE is able to come to the aid of those who are being put to the test

Hebrews 2:17, 18. Also Philippians 2:7 (Contrary to the Live Forever book Hebrews 2:17, 18 applies strictly to Jesus Christ )

Watchtower exulting their 14000 to same level Christ:

No longer will they be Christs subjects but they will then be kings with him in Gods long promised Kingdom Government.

(You Can Live Forever In Paradise On Earth P136)

Compare Bible, applied to Christ:

Christ far above every Government and authority, NOT ONLY IN THIS SYSTEM OF THINGS BUT ALSO IN THAT TO COME Ephesians 1:20-22

Watchtower exulting their 14000 to same level Christ: Some of the modern synagogue of Satan, Christendom, came to this anointed remnant and, bowed down, acknowledging the slaves authority following this a great crowd out of all nationshas come to bow down to the anointed slave

(Revelationits Grand Climax p64. Par 19)

Compare Bible to Christ

That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, in earth and under the earth, and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father .

Philippians 2:10-11 KJV, NIV, NWT Watchtower exulting their 14000 to same level Christ

Taking into your heart the cleansinggood news of the Kingdom.

(Thy Kingdom Come p175 par 3)

Compare Bible to Christ

The Blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin 1 st John 1:7, Hebrews 9:14

Watchtower exulting their 14000 to same level Christ

Jesus Christ is the foundation cornerstone and all of the true followers anointed with Gods Spirit are the superstructure built upon him to form a living house in which God can dwell by His spiritit is THROUGH THE AGENCY of this spiritual temple that ALL mankind must henceforth render acceptable worship to God. (Watchtower 15/12/1961, p748)

Compare Bible applied to Christ

for there is one God and ONE mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus. 1 st Timothy 2;5

Jesus said to him I AM THE WAY , the truth and the life, NO MAN comes to the father except through me. John 14:6

Watchtower exulting their 14000 to same level Christ Come to Jehovahs Organisation for Salvation Watchtower 15/11/1981, p21

(See also Our Kingdom Ministry 11/90 page1: Identifying themselves with Jehovahs Organisation is essential to their salvation)

Compare Bible to Christ

For there is no salvation in ANYONE ELSE , for there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved Acts 4:12

Watchtower exulting their 14000 to same level Christ

Similarly Jehovah gives us assurance of the kingdoms reality as shown in the Bible book of Hebrews. Many facets of the law foreshadowed the kingdom arrangement.(Hebrews 10:1) (Knowledge That Leads To Everlasting Life. P 92, par 9)

Compare Bible to Christ

Hebrews 10:1 The law foreshadows the Christ and HIS offering for sin! Read chapters 9 & 10.

For those things are a shadow of the things to come, BUT THE REALITY BELONGS TO CHRIST Colossians 2:17

Even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a Gospel contrary to that which you received let him be accursed . Galatians 1:8-9