VERY pleased to hear this, she deserves a mention. She also has such a great sense of humour after experiencing the consequences of being involved in that abusive system. She's a survivor.
Is the article too long to type up or post here?
Brummie
i was flipping thru the latest issue (dec. 2002) of the popular magazine psychology today, and noticed some book reviews.
the article on pg.
76 is entitled "cq: psychology today introduces culture quotient (cq), a review of the season's most psychologically astute...books, ..." and one the 11 books they chose to bestow this description upon was diane wilson's new book, awakening of a jehovah's witness: escape from the watchtower society".
VERY pleased to hear this, she deserves a mention. She also has such a great sense of humour after experiencing the consequences of being involved in that abusive system. She's a survivor.
Is the article too long to type up or post here?
Brummie
edited to say "dang i posted it in the wrong thread" .
just read this post by dan and wondered just how many of us are still facing the same things
since leaving the wt i occasionally have mental visions of dying a terrible, violent death.
Dan you are doing fine, many go through life not being able to even talk about their experience, its a learning curve and through time we do begin to undo the indoctrination and deal with the issues until we are liberated mentally as well as physically from that disgusting org. Being honest with yourself as you have been here is a positive step in overcoming the WTS, they do not teach us to be honest with ourselves. Be patient with yourself and the people=phobic problem will fade, dont know about you but I found people were patient with me enough when I left regardless of how I viewed the us and them situation.
Brummie
here are more pictures.
i still need one permission before posting the group picture.. .
neonmadman - i think he is thinking about getting a standing ovation after his talk, he is about to give.
Thanks for the photo's, I was there for the 20th anniversary, Helen ortaga sang, she has a fantastic story, do any of you know Pat Neeley? I get the tapes every year, would liked to have been there again.
Brummie
if we were to go back to the borg, would we see any marked difference in the attitudes/environment in the organization?
would it appear more liberal or more strict than it was 20 or more years ago?
or would it appear that not much has changed?.
I havent been out for so long as 20 years but it has definately changed in the last 10 years, Jws seem cold & brash organisational people now were in the past they at least knew what they believed and had more convictions bible based, albeit misapplied.
Brummie
edited to say "dang i posted it in the wrong thread" .
just read this post by dan and wondered just how many of us are still facing the same things
since leaving the wt i occasionally have mental visions of dying a terrible, violent death.
edited to say "dang I posted it in the wrong thread"
Just read this post by Dan and wondered just how many of us are still facing the same things
Since leaving the WT I occasionally have mental visions of dying a terrible, violent death. Dan's my name, anxiety and pessimism's my game...
The Watchtower implants these horrific thoughts into the pigeon holes of our brains from birth, if we lose jah's protection by leaving the borg the worst scenario is bound to happen to us they say. This implants the morbid phobias without us even realising they have been planted. I had the same phobia's as the above plus when in the process of leaving the WT I wouldnt go into a building without first knowing where the fire escapes where, wouldnt go on public transport unless I could sit next to the escape door etc, That was because the phobia was implanted that if I left we would lose Jah's protection, so I found myself overly protecting myself!
Then I would get anxieties about bad things happening to those people I cared for the most, if they were going on holiday or sumpthin my focus would be the dangers of the motorway rather than focus on the good time they were going to have.... I would dread hearing bad news about them...maybe this was due to believing that Job lost his family when God took the protection from around him, and that fear is implanted through various WT studieswe are left thinking = we have lost His protection so we could lose our family...its a confusing time, all we think we have left is to die without hope therefore existence becomes a morbid experience. They train us to focus on the worst things in life that we then find it hard to recognise the beauty of life in the present, I believe the reason for this is that they want us to be so dependent on their future paradise, if they can get us morbid now they can keep us hoping on them to sort it out, all our happiness is future, we need to strive to get into paradise.
OK so then we leave the WTS we deal with doctrinal issues and cruelty issues etc but how many of us have dealt with the phobias? How many of us have recognised the WTS planted these phobias? I get the feeling some who left years ago continue to carry them even now.
Can anyone here honestly say they have got rid of all these phobias now? If so, how? and what good advice could you give to those poor folk who are still going through this?
Brummie
sorry if all this has been discussed before
Edited by - Brummie on 23 October 2002 20:5:4
if you could live in the world of any book, which book would you choose and why?
i have a reason for asking this...... .
april
Hahahaah Shakita, it sure is a great masterpiece of our time! That author is a shakespeare .
You sure gots taste.
Brummie
I want a feast, I want a bean feast...(those lyrics must have been written by Lennon)
if you could live in the world of any book, which book would you choose and why?
i have a reason for asking this...... .
april
Willy wonka and the chocolate factory
Snozzberries are a speciality
Brummie
He'd probably ask you why you are so fascinated with these freethinking threads?
Welcome back comforter
christian congregation
of jehovah's witnesses
2528 route 22
Thanks a million for posting this appreciated.
They say every accusation is not to be taken lightly even if there is only ONE accuser, then they say ignore it if the accused denies it.......arrrrgghhhhhhhhhhhh
Every accusation is investigated. It is not taken lightly even if there is only one accuser. If there is only one accuser and the accused denies the charge, no further congregational action can be taken , we can't go beyond the scriptures. (1 Tim 5:19) It is different if there are two accusers to separate incidents, their testimony may be taken into consideration for establishing a judicial hearing.
if jesus did come to inspect the faithful and discreet slave, what would he say?
"Did I get here on time?"
re:1874, 1914, 1918,1919, 1925,1975,2000......to be continued
Brummie
Edited by - Brummie on 23 October 2002 13:12:52