Posts by villagegirl

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Why is it so hard to deconvert the JDubs?

by alonein321 in

i was watching this q & a by peter boghossian (autor of the book a manual for creating atheists) on youtube:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zksbmdcczvu .

around 17:15 min, he explains that there are difficulty levels when it comes to religions in aplying these techniques.

villagegirl

I was speaking to some middle aged born-ins and the blinders are

on so tight I am surpised they don't need a white cane and a guide dog.

They directed me to the jw org site where there are videos of Russell and

Rutherford, they are defending them, can people be this unaware ?

They show a copy of the "Finished Mystery" in one video.

They still don't acknowledge the fact Russell stole his doctrines from

William Miller who publishing the "chronology chart" used by Russell

and "Daniel Prophesy", with dates before Russell was born,

and charts and dates, and theology ( no immortal soul, no hellfire)

the WT claims as original to them. I am exhausted trying to

crack a wee bit of light into the dark cave of their enslaved minds.

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Anyone see the "Do Jehovah's Witnesses Believe in Jesus?" article?

by leaving_quietly in

anyone see the "do jehovah's witnesses believe in jesus?

" article in the may 2014 wt (public edition)?

it's one of those imaginary conversations with a householder articles.

villagegirl

How do they explain that angels are worshipping Jesus ?

I seriously have come to realize they are anti-Christ.

The prime example is the fact they prevent people from

communion in the body of Christ which is what the bread

and wine are all about, Eat, this is my body. Drink this is my blood.

That was meant for everybody, everybody. It is creepy to see them

file into the memorial and sit there and refuse to partake. its Satanic.

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Brotherhood or sisterhood that is the question.

by sparrowdown in

jw
friends

in a cong of about 70 publishers only about 50 regularly attend.. out of those 50 the majority are women, some single but a fair few whose husbands don't come anymore.. the only men that do attend are the elders, ms and a couple who tag along with their wives.. so in total there are probably only about 15 males in attendance at best.. we have had several local needs over the recent past encouraging sisters to turn over their male return visits.

to bros, and for bros that go in fs to ask to speak to the man of the house (but i am sure that is the same everywhere).

my question is are men more likely to wake up first and if so what could be the reason for this?.

villagegirl

Single parent women need any and all support they can get

and I was one, I deludedly felt "safe" in the quiet, monotonous

and droning meetings, and it was someplace to go. Its like an abused

wife who thinks she is "being taken care of in some way " Its habit

and habit is comfort. There was always a majority of women in

for the last 35 years that I know of. Many single mothers.

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What are the feelings/thoughts within 24-48 hours of exposure to an undeniably true (for you) TATT?

by NeverKnew in

many of us know where we were during 9/11 or when john kennedy and martin luther king were killed.. it seems that when faced with ttatt, real truth is dismissed as "ol' light" or "an imperfect group of men" but from what i gather, many of you, at some point, were hit with a component of ttatt that shattered all of those cliches that allowed you to brush off the obvious reality that something was very wrong.

some of you may remember the hours following your earliest exposures to an undeniably true tatt.

did you zone completely out?

villagegirl

Very interesting comments. I had the floating experience described here.

I was praying and I said " excuse me Jehovah, but if won't offend you, I would

like to speak directly to Jesus the Christ " It may sound corny to some of you,

but I was praying very seriously and for a long time. I had cancer at the time,

and I was told I only had a 20% chance of survival, so I had been trying to really

look over my life and what I believed and if it was true. When I made this prayer

I was overwhelmed, and felt lifted up and the veil in my mind fell away and it all

came crashing down and I realized I had been wrong all those years. I just started

to think of my daughter and what I had put her through, and I kept saying "Oh no."

"Oh,no" It all fell away. I realized I had been kept separate from Christ and that

there was one body of Christ and it was simple and clear and it was like the in the

hym Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound.... I once was lost, but now am found,

was blind,but now I see..... How precious did that Grace appear the moment I first

believed. I did continue to do research, read Crisis of Conscience, and go to a theological

library and obtain and read Russells works of madness and pyramids.

12

Children

by d in

i used to wonder why does society pressure women who do not want children to have children?

i mean some people are content not having children so my thing is why is their so much pressure from peers,family and people in general.

to bear children?.

villagegirl

I am not against children but I am against the Dutch Reform Church who is responsible

for Apartheid in South Africa. And the Dutch in general who pillaged all countries they went

to and abused the locals.

14

Try out Ubuntu Operating System

by lambsbottom in

hi everyone,.

just wanted to encourage y'all to try out ubuntu, the free and amazing operating system (alternative to windows) at ubuntu.com .

i can help anyone if they don't know how to install it.. also, don't forget to use openoffice.org office suite over microsoft office.

villagegirl

OR - You can get a MAC , which is Virus free, never crashes and is reliable, stable, fast and

blows Windows out of the water every time. But of course Windows was an attempt to immitate

the graphical interface operating system Apple invented in 1977.

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Girls can't do maths

by Laika in

a story from my days as the accounts servant (not verbatim).

me: hello, [brother] here's your copy of the money slip for this meeting, i just finished the count.. cong.

secretary: thanks... who counter signed that there?.

villagegirl

In the beginning in Genisis we see a conversation in heaven, the creators are talking

in Genisis 3 " let us make them in OUR image, male and female " So two or more creators

and they are male and female combined. The creators, like some animals that could create life

without sex, clones in their own image, in the natural world, this phenomena is called Parthenogenisis ,

where a species reproduces with no males, they produce all female offspring, clones of themselves,

and it doesn't seem to be a problem for them. They clone themselves. It can be induced, in mamals,

all the egg needs is to be pierced and off it goes and creates a duplicate of the mother. True fact.

I guess our problems arose when these creators decided on creating sexual reproduction,

thinking perhaps, sex would cause people to bond in stable, healthy, loyal relationships.

So much for experiments.

11

Higher Education

by thedog1 in

my wife told me today that during a conversation with a relative on the phone recently, the relative said that someone in their congregation had been invited to take part in a branch extension in a foreign country.

this young woman who had been asked to take part is a solid witness, though not a pioneer, but guess what?

she is an architect!

villagegirl

A double standard ? Yah think ? The entire organization is based on double standards.

Its what they do. Separte people into "classes" Men and women are treated as two classes.

They will say wome are "equal to men" but this is like the racists in the Spouthern USA who

practiced apartheid and claimed the Blacks were "seperate but equal" that was clearly bullshit.

and so is the white wash of the treatment of women in the WT, who can't even sort literature

or greet people, or carry a microphone. How threatened are this men ? So they have to rely

on a woman architect, and how are they going to control that situation, when she draws up

the construction documents and then has tell all the male workers what to do and how to do it .

Itd double think, double standards and this woman has major blinders on to even be there.

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Victory in Defeat !

by cookiemaster in

maybe you guys remember that in january, i shared here our situation with the ongoing conflict with the ms that was conducting the wt study in our home.

well, my parents decided to talk to the elders about it.

the last time he held the study in our home he really said some insulting things during it.

villagegirl

You don't say where you are from.

Can you get on Amazon and get these three books ?

Have you read any of these ? They will set you free and your parents also.

http://www.amazon.com/Adventism-America-History-Gary-Land/dp/1883925193

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_6_6?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=crisis+of+conscience&sprefix=Crisis%2Cstripbooks%2C312

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Christian+freedom+Raymond+Franz

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Watchtower® and their education

by punkofnice in

ok. i'm a brit as some of you know.. what i noticed with the wbt$ is how they only seem to write from an american cultural standpoint.

not a bad thing if you're one of my cousins form the usa i admit........ but.... here in the uk there are some things that are meaningless to us.. eg hazing.

this was warned about in a study and over here we had no idea what it was and it kind of alienated the congregation from the study.

villagegirl

The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, is an American creation ! There is a book all ex-and

exiting jw's should read Adventism in America by Garry Land

Its a history of 19th century Adventism. It was an American movement started by Miller

and others from about 1830 through 1900's, and on to the present Advent churches

including modern Seven Day Adsventists and included all the Jehovah's Witnesses.

"Special knowledge" ? Doctrines you associate with the "truth" ?

All the doctrines you were told were "special knowledge" were simply

American Adventism, The Plan of the Ages, no Hellfire, Camp Meetings, House to House,

rejection of organized religion, no trinity, thousand year reign of Christ, Bible Chronology,

setting Dates for Armageddon, .... etc etc .....all Adventist, born in the USA.