i have been doing a lot of research on the bible and its roots so to speak and its becoming clearer that the jews like other races took gods and stories from others and made them their own.
its also become clear that many of the books were written later then stated, like daniel probably written about a hundred years before christ and some of it maybe even after.
but what i don't get is the prophecies.
Processor-crazyguy- Where are you getting this "history" from ?
Have you heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls ?
Written on Papyrus Parchment and Bronze,
dating back to 408 BCE ? Dated by carbon dating, and scientists.
The physical foundations of the Temple Jesus attended and read scrolls in,
is still there in Jerusalem. Have you heard of the Wailing Wall ?
I have been there. Seen it, touched it.
Right now as we speak, Jews are praying at this wall.
The Muslims built a Mosque on this Temple site.
i was watching this q & a by peter boghossian (autor of the book a manual for creating atheists) on youtube:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zksbmdcczvu .
around 17:15 min, he explains that there are difficulty levels when it comes to religions in aplying these techniques.
Incredibly this Finished Mystery is on the JW org site and in a video
about the history of the "org" How deluded do you have to be to read
this and still accept the "governing body" as some special inspired royal
family ??? Thanks Vanderhoven , for these qoutes, I will definitely use them.
just thought i would let you know there appears to still be no change when it comes to assisting the police here in the uk.
i am in the process of pressing charges against my abuser who was and is again a jw.
during my interviews with the police i did not mention jws as it was not relevant to the case, however during one if his interviews he stated that he had been 'punished' by the jws by being disfellowshipped, and now he was a jw again he had 'paid his dues'!.
I hope you make your attorney aware of the Candice Conti case and its outcome.
The elders who failed to report this to the police and the Watchtower Society
and liable for finacial compensation to you and you should not hesitate to sue
them for their harnful and illegal actions, or failure to act. Other victims of this
man are probably out there since they pedophiles never stop at just one victim.
in a cong of about 70 publishers only about 50 regularly attend.. out of those 50 the majority are women, some single but a fair few whose husbands don't come anymore.. the only men that do attend are the elders, ms and a couple who tag along with their wives.. so in total there are probably only about 15 males in attendance at best.. we have had several local needs over the recent past encouraging sisters to turn over their male return visits.
to bros, and for bros that go in fs to ask to speak to the man of the house (but i am sure that is the same everywhere).
my question is are men more likely to wake up first and if so what could be the reason for this?.
sparrow - correct - single moms are not the image the WT wants to portray -
I pointed this out once to a Circuit Servant who gave talks as if everybody
was two parent family, and husband and wife team, I pointed out to him
the majority were not married, but single mothers, he hated and resented it.
We were second class citizens even though we were the majority.
i was watching this q & a by peter boghossian (autor of the book a manual for creating atheists) on youtube:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zksbmdcczvu .
around 17:15 min, he explains that there are difficulty levels when it comes to religions in aplying these techniques.
Thank you losingit ,I appreciate those kind words.
at times i yearn for those i love that are still "in" to just wake up and smell the cult.. i end up feeling sorry for them yet angry at them at the same time.. i know each person is on their own journey and its a process,.
but i just wish the process would hurry up already!.
when will this nightmare end.
Sparrow - Try to find some other connections - It something that interests you,
or what you always wanted to do - something involving other people -
try to just relax if you can, I am not sure your age or circumstances, but
thats not a train at the end of the tunnel, its hope, freedom, opportunity
and new friends.
i was watching this q & a by peter boghossian (autor of the book a manual for creating atheists) on youtube:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zksbmdcczvu .
around 17:15 min, he explains that there are difficulty levels when it comes to religions in aplying these techniques.
Data Dog - Not a rant , your analysis is well thought out - and accurate.
Blondie - the paradise earth amd living forever is taught by Seventh Day Aventists,
not suggesting anyone should become on. Data hits the core about the "one channel"
There is also another factor challenging the "one channel" doctrine; that is concept of
a general Body of Christ, the teaching in the New Testament that believers are
all equal, all partake of the bread and wine, all have direct access to God with no
human mediator or "faithful slave" or "governing body" just a one-on -one , direct
and personal and connected only in a spiritual way as a body, identifiable only
by Jesus and Yahweh and the Angels. The "faithful slave" doctrine rests entirely
on the scriptures in Matthew 25, but if you read this parable, there are TWO
faithful slaves not ONE. Both are approved and have "authority" the one with
two talents and the one with five talents. So where is the other "slave"
in the WT organization ? The placing of eight men in such a self aggrandizing
position equals making them your mediator. That is clearly blasphemy.
How insulting to God to accuse him of selecting an Egyptologist like Russell
who put the sign of the Sun God Rah on the covers of his books, or was it the
Wings of Isis, anyway its an Egyptian symbol on the cover of The Time is at Hand
and dozens of other books he wrote. There is nothing special about any doctrine
in the WT. Jesus said " I came that you can have life, and have it more abundantly"
Jesus proclaimed freedom, freedom and abundance, and oneness through spiritiual
awakening, being born again, a subject that seems to terrify witnesses or evoke
laughter. It is a spiritual awakening, enlightment, transcendence. Experienced in
the here and now, and leading to existance beyond. The WT defines a "New World"
like a Disneyland experience, not a spiritual experience, and installs security guards,
and cops and surveillance systems and dress codes and monitors every aspect of
life that could end up in celebration or joy or connection to others, or charity to others
and all to wait for entrance to Disneyland of the future. Its not about abundance
and love in daily life its about imprisonment and a life of empty expectation, watching
the world go by, and your life go by, unable to experience life.
obedience is key in the paragraph below and the urgency is also emphasised with an exclaimation mark.. .
10 the earthly part of gods organization is moving ahead in many ways.
it helps us understand bible truth more and more clearly.
The Governing Body do not have to "schedule time" because out of eght men
only two of them ever had a job. They do not have to go to work,
pay rent or a mortgage, buy food or prepare it, because they are waited on
hand and foot and are given whatever money they want for whatever
they want to buy, they are housed, clothed and fed and their
residence cleaned by sisters on their knees.
They have never and will never, raise children, worry about bills,
or if they have enough to feed their children or pay their rent,
they are clueless as to the circumstances of those they preach to
and are like the Pharsees who Jesus said, piled heavy burdens on people
and were unwilling to lift them with one finger.
the best public talk i ever heard was one i heard in a jw kingdom hall.
unfortunately, the hurriedly formed jc disfellowshipped him within a couple of weeks for not worshipping the octo(headed) gb.
this happened two years back when i was his fellow-elder.
Great story, but because you inserted this "Healing Code" link I see alterior motives.
This is a scam (http://www.thehealingcode.com/home.php)
I have seem many witnesses die because they believed in magical solutions for their
health and this site wants you $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
here in the netherlands (extreme liberal) i hear more and more jw children about having attended a birthday party.. it seems that the more liberal jw's here have no problem with it.. gorby.
I only wish - too late for the ruined childhood of my daughter.
