Exactly how Gay were these guys ?
Like irritatingly, in your face, Gay ?
Like fondling each other in public, Gay ?
Like one is dressed like a girl in a Tutu, Gay ?
Even Gay people can't stand certain Gay people.
villagegirl
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JW refuses to provide wedding stationery to Gay couple
by KateWild ini was outraged at this and had to post it.. http://jehovahswitnessreport.com/blog/jw-refuses-to-provide-wedding-stationery-to-gay-couple.
i think she is a hypocrite and i bet she sells her invites to fornicators, or does she ask them if they are having sex before marrige, before she takes their money?.
i was never like this when i was a jw, it's even more disturbing that she is going to ask her elders what to do.
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What do you call a person who . . . ?
by Terry inwhat do you call a person who keeps promising to do something for you--but won't get up off their ass and do it?.
what do you call a person who needs money from you all the time and doesn't pay it back?.
what do you call a person who keeps you waiting and waiting and then, they don't show up?.
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villagegirl
Terry - Take a walk on the beach at sunset, or go up into the mountains
and camp out by lake. Watch children playing. Garden, watch the flowers
grow and the bees at their work, look up at the sky, just lie on your back and
watch the clouds drift by. Mostly ? Its all good.
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Who Will Be The Next Governing Body Member To Defect Like Raymond Franz? I Think Samuel Herd Might Be A Prospect.
by frankiespeakin innot really, it could anyone of those guys who shows a sign of humaness/compassion and regret and go on exposing them all to the media worse than ray franz ever could have.
yes i know this may be wishful thinking/computing on my part but i feel it is a harmless indugence or may be it is just my deep unconscious foretelling a likely scenerio.. and it is good to create a distrust among these guys each one trying to beat the other to jump ship because thier unconscious is giving them fits to get the hell out when the getting is good.
maybe even report their fellow gbs to the authorities to be granted clemency or something.
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villagegirl
Don't be fooled by those guys playing; Bad Cop, Good Cop,
they know what they are doing, they want to engender sympathy
and hope that they really are who they claim to be. Never forget,
they are NOT the "sole channel" of anything at all, ever.
No such thing. One mediator; and he is invisible, 1Tim 2:5
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Have you been Invalidated?
by Londo111 inhttp://www.eqi.org/invalid.htm.
of course, being in a cult and the shunning that comes from leaving it is invalidating.. but how many times have we heard "move on" or "get over it"?
that is a prime example of invalidation.. sometimes this forum, as well as others, can be a mixed bag of validation and invalidation..
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villagegirl
Nobody can truly move on till they clear themselves of the
years of propaganda and programming and for those who
really believed its more difficult, than for those who were in
by association only, like born-ins . There are deep "hooks" people retain.
The feelings are around a loss of "home" or what they thought was
there "place of safety" its around the idea there " is no other place to go"
These feelings are rooted in the belief that the "Organization/Society" is really
backed by God and your only true connection to God. Until you can dismantle
the fundmental teachings, (and I don't mean just abandoning them) I mean
really seeing they are false in every sort of way, not Biblical, not related to
"truth" of any kind. The book Crisis of Conscience, eased a lot of minds,.
Reading the Watchtowers, Finished Mystery, published in 1917, and
still bragged about as the Societies 'proof' they were the Faithful and Discreet Slave,
just reading page 230 or page 93, of that book, should free up a lot of minds
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Why do Christian nations think they can assimilate Muslims into their communities , does Islam attempt to assimilate Christians in their communities ?
by smiddy inislam /muslims today are what christianity was centuries ago , the two beleif systems are like oil and water , not to be mixed .
christians are not tolerated spreading their infectious disease amongst muslims, in islamic countrys , and harsh penalties apply for them doing so in muslim countries , including the death penalty.
stonings , whippings etc.. on the other hand christian nations are very tolerant of muslim extremists who incite hatred and violence on their own territory , and they get a slap on the wrist and say dont do it again .
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villagegirl
I knew many "moderate" JW's, but, they still believed the GB
was the sole channel and the "organization" came first and
women should be in subjection, and they are the
in the "truth" and everyone else is "worldly"
These moderates, in Africa and the Islands, sometimes
have their own versions of things. The Ayatollahs, the
Sharia Law, the mandatory covering of women, the
treatment of women in countries like Pakistan, reveals the
heart of Quran and its teachings. Its a 6th century religion
whose history has been to conqueor by the sword and that is
written down in the Quran. They did assimilate other cultures
and build beautiful buildings, so did Hindus, and Buddhists,
but with perhaps more benign methods and intent ?
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How The Governing Body's Jealous Imaginary Friend/Corporation Sock Puppet Is Really Screwing Up Their Decision Making Capacity As CEOs Of The Watchtower Corporation
by frankiespeakin inlook at the recent videos that this bunch of old out of touch with reality governing body has spent time and money(corporation assets) on.
telling the deaf how disqusting jehovah finds looking at you masterbate(clearly a sign of some sort of childish magical thinking) and the one where they throw a little tots gift toy in the garbage because jehovah(corporation's sock puppet) don't like magic, making the the poor kid feel like he will shrivel up and die of old age like adam & eve did at 900+ years old, if he don't hurry up and get rid of that cheap plastic wizzard toy that might perhaps be demonized or something.. i'm telling you guy these guys are trapped into making bad decision because of this imaginary friend.
expect much more in the way of infantile decision making from these delusional individuals.
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villagegirl
Thanks farnkiespeakin: all these things help, in pulling back the curtain.
As long as anyone - and there are plenty on this forum - believe deep
in their hearts that the Governing Body, is speaking for Jehovah and the
Organization has the "truth" and is the sole channel, (and the elders here
mostly do believe this ) and simply are here to see what apostates do -
Until we address that this "attachment" issue that keeps so many hooked
even after they leave - until we become skillful at dismantling this false
and absurd CORE beliefs in the GB , we are not doing what we could
to free the captives. We see here on this forum, actual discussions,
using terms like FDS and GB and the "truth" and the "Organization",
as if, these things have some basis in Christianity,or the Bible,
which they do not. You don't have to be a Christian to know
the hooks, all you have to be is an ex-JW.
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VERY CONFIDENTIAL LETTER - Child abuse 10/01/2012
by WatchTower87 inconfidential letter child abuse http://adf.ly/auxbu.
to all bodies of elders.
the congregation secretary should arrange for this letter to be retained in the congregation permanent file of policy letters.
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villagegirl
committeechairman - You talk in defense of the "society" ?
You believe the "Governing Body" is the "sole channel " that Jehovah
chose as his "faithful and discreet slave class" ? And you are in
"Gods Organization" ? You believe this dont you ? You do realize the
book The Finished Mystery, is suppose to be the identifying publication
that establishes the WT faithful and dicreet slave class as God's representives ?
You should get a copy of this book and read it. I have a copy I obtained 30 years
ago here are some of the wonderful things contained in this book ( that is no longer
available in KH libraries )
This book is available on line form Amazon as free download and in hardcopy complete with Egyptian Wings of Isis on the cover.
here is a sample page 230
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Why do Christian nations think they can assimilate Muslims into their communities , does Islam attempt to assimilate Christians in their communities ?
by smiddy inislam /muslims today are what christianity was centuries ago , the two beleif systems are like oil and water , not to be mixed .
christians are not tolerated spreading their infectious disease amongst muslims, in islamic countrys , and harsh penalties apply for them doing so in muslim countries , including the death penalty.
stonings , whippings etc.. on the other hand christian nations are very tolerant of muslim extremists who incite hatred and violence on their own territory , and they get a slap on the wrist and say dont do it again .
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too tired to care , that describes it
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Why do Christian nations think they can assimilate Muslims into their communities , does Islam attempt to assimilate Christians in their communities ?
by smiddy inislam /muslims today are what christianity was centuries ago , the two beleif systems are like oil and water , not to be mixed .
christians are not tolerated spreading their infectious disease amongst muslims, in islamic countrys , and harsh penalties apply for them doing so in muslim countries , including the death penalty.
stonings , whippings etc.. on the other hand christian nations are very tolerant of muslim extremists who incite hatred and violence on their own territory , and they get a slap on the wrist and say dont do it again .
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villagegirl
Mikado - I am not living now in Muslim country. You are a male ?
You perspective will not be the same as a woman in a Muslim country.
Mainstream ? What exactly does that mean ? Why do you keep refering
to the Old Testament ? It is you who need to read History.
I do not believe you have read the Quran since you do not even spell it right.
Covering women's heads means they are in subjection, second class,
have you read the news about women being stoned in Pakistan ?
over 869 women died at the hands of Muslim males in Pakistan in 2013
these were all "honor killings" and that means they failed to obey,
and that is not "old testament" that is current events.
You are a Muslim I believe.
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Escaping Indoctrination - Faith Isn't a Virtue.
by cofty inthe unknown writer of the gospel of john put the following words in jesus' mouth, "blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.".
persuading countless generations that it is a virtue to believe incredible things on insufficient evidence, is one of religion's cleverest tricks.. the more incredible the claim; the more flimsy the evidence; the stronger the belief; the greater the virtue.. this is the exact opposite of how we operate in every other aspect of our lives.. rational people must demand objective evidence for everything they are asked to believe.
"extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence".. leaving the dogmatic claims of the watchtower is only a first step.
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villagegirl
The onus is on those who would have us believe in extraordinary things to provide extraordinary evidence.
Appeals to the supposed virtue of faith should be a red flag that the evidence is lacking.
Not everything is evidence based, theoretical physicists have often
theorized things based on no evidence whatsoever, then did math
or invented math and the theory remained math or was proven later
by evidence not available at the time they thought it up,
or even after they were dead.
Thats also how things are invented and discovered.
Conceputalizing a non material unseen universe in your head is not a "virtue"
nobody who believes in God, thinks its a virtue, its an idea,
a idea of love, of grace, of hope, of possibility in the unknown.
Its this kind of thinking that drives artists, musicians, explorers
and all creative people, its a vision. You must not have a creative
bone in your body to live in your 'Flat Earth' mentality,
if you had lived hundreds of years ago you would have been
the one to burn people at the stake for their ideas. There was
no evidence the world was round, somebody just imagined it was.
The evidence came later.
