I heard it mentioned that you actually need to be "trained" to take the cart out. Is that true? And that you need to be in good standing? Or some such nonsense. What's so hard/important about standing around next to a cart doing jack that I need to be trained and in good standing to do it?
tidalblitz
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The "preaching work" is just laughable!
by cookiemaster inthe "preaching work" they're so eager to brag about is just laughable.
they say their number is an indication of god's blessing.
oh, please, give me a break!
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March JW Broadcast: Once again disparaging Higher Education - this time in the Music Video.
by cappytan ini will have the music video separated shortly.
will post the link once it's done..
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A Question for Underground Apostates, How Many Are There?
by Village Idiot inwhen i first came to this forum i was of the belief that those of us who were still in due to family reasons were few in numbers perhaps one in a thousand in the jws.
soon i came to the realization that there were many more.
we have dozens of posters here who are mentally out but still in.
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tidalblitz
I've been mentally out probably for well over 5 years, but only learned TTATT about 2 years ago. I'm still in but have been out in fs only once since 2011. I still regularly put down a few hours and mag placements every month.. just because I can. My wife is very much in but needs me to be gungho to be gungho herself. We have sort of an uneasy balance right now. We both go to meetings but are irregular, about 50% I'd say. I guess I am what jwland would call apostate but I just don't want to lose my family and live a lie at the same time. As long as people leave me alone, I'm fine right where I am. -
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New Apostate: Tempest in a Teacup
by Tempest in a Teacup infirst post on here.
i've been lurking for 3-4 years and i mean i've been a mega lurker, doing marathon reading sessions for months or weeks.. sometimes i proceed by researching specific topics, or posters; other times just reading current discussions.
i'm particularly fond of "old" post, i.e 10-12-15 years ago.. i have laughed, smiled, got mad, cried etc, just reading some threads here.. as you can see i suffer from some kind of "accute lurkitis".
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tidalblitz
Welcome Tempest! I'm also very intrigued by this:
I don't plan to leave the jws.
I've always thought that this might be the path for me.. at least the one of less resistance. I don't mind attending the meetings with my wife. I also don't mind turning in a time slip (5 hours every month event though I've been out in FS once in the past 2 years). The problem I foresee is when all of this comes to a head. I have honestly come to the point where I no longer mind the idea of losing my hard core mom/dad/sibling(s). But, we'll see. For now, I've found a happy equilibrium that I hope does not change.
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Field Service Reports Count More than Showing Love - Ray Franz CF Book
by flipper ini've always suspected this was the wt society's view when i was in the jehovah's witness organization - but never knew the head of the writing committee karl adams had written a letter to nathan knorr ( then wt president ) recommending a change regarding reporting field service time as it wrongly emphasized jw members being seen as mainly being approved due to field service statistics - instead of emphasizing christian qualities of love, kindness, peace, etc.. karl adams had been personally handpicked by nathan knorr to be the head of the writing department.
in 1971 he wrote a letter to knorr which he wanted shared with the entire governing body as well .
i'll share the main parts of that letter.. on pg.
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tidalblitz
@Dozy You are 100% correct about JW being like an MLM. I felt weird and uncomfortable when I first realized this. And I hate fs. Counting time is stupid. If all I have to do is turn in time to be righteous, why do I need to go out at all. I'll just put 10 hours, 6 mags, and 2 rv on my slip at the end of the month and leave it at that. -
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Musical video on JW-TV February monthly program - must see !!
by Viva la Vida inyou must see the musical video at the end of this month program (aprox.
at 1:04:30).... i don't like to use "must" but this is wow... if you think they couldn't get any lower... just be prepared...
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The Fear mongering of this weeks WT study!
by stuckinarut2 inhave you all read this weeks study article?.
oh my word it is full of fear inducing tactics....doom and gloom outlooks.... anxiety inducing methods to develop absolute control over witnesses and cripple them in any attempt to think for themselves!.
(notice i am saying "themselves" rather than "ourselves"?!
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tidalblitz
I never felt more horrified and stupid than at the meeting this past Sunday. One comment at the watchtower study on the basement pic was that "we needed to get to know each and every one of our brothers and sisters individually because we won't know how long we'll be together in the basement." I couldn't help but shake my head at that one. I feel embarrassed for my family for buying into this nonsense. -
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How did you get through mind numbing meetings?
by minimus inas an elder, i used to find a legitimate reason to wander.
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Why are JW talks & publications never uplifting?
by thedepressedsoul ini was sitting at the meeting the other night and for the first time it hit, jw talks or magazines are never uplifting!
i rarely, if ever hear a talk or read a magazines and have it give nothing but praise to jehovahs servants or just praise jehovah and jesus throughout it.
they never just a read through the bible or just a bible story explained or told.
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tidalblitz
It really is depressing that there isn't more of a discussion at the meetings. If something in the watchtower is confusing, why shouldn't we be able to get clarification right there at the meeting? Why can't there be an actual discussion instead of a question/answer.. I ask the question and you answer from the paragraph. What really is the point of the meeting then except for further indoctrination? So much importance is placed on meeting attendance but actual study is personal. Well, what if during my personal study, I come across a point that a healthy discussion would help to make clearer? Isn't that how the bible students started in the first place? A group of like minded individuals coming together to actually read and discuss the scriptures. Where a person's thoughts were considered, weighed, and commented upon without fear of repercussion?
My how far the religion has strayed from it's roots. Even the apostles were encouraged by Jesus to ask him questions and they sure were not afraid to do so. Even Abraham was allowed to question God himself why he wanted to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah.
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Q-tips and Coffee Filters helped me learn TTATT
by RedPillPopper inwell they didn't fully teach me ttatt but helped me on the way.............. first thing i do in the morning after waking up is grinding some nice coffee beans and getting the brew started while i take a hot shower.
after the shower i like to clean out all the nasty wax out of my ears with a q-tip (or cotton swab for those not familiar with that term).. while cleaning out my ears i would think about how nice it is we have things like q-tips and coffee filters that make life more enjoyable but at the same time realize that somebody somewhere is in a factory making these.. i can't imagine a child saying "when i grow up i want to work in a factory making coffee filters".
the people who end up really doing that as adults did not set that to be a life goal.
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tidalblitz
In modern society, most do not have the skills to live off the land. Hardly anyone knows how to grow their own food or knows how to butcher animals. I know many brothers and sisters who are dainty. They need a daily shower and don't like to get "dirty". Well, what do they think it's going to be like without people with the know how to make modern society function? We really will need all those rules from the OT at that point. Gotta go bathroom? Go walk 1/2 mile outside of your encampment with your shovel to dig a hole. Then make sure to cover over it with soil properly!!