beroea,
I didn't post a reply but I got it. (I live for irony and sarcasm)
Don't let people get to you sometimes I think we are too ready for a fight.
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willy_think
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Shame on you - part III
by beroea ina few days ago now on adult and disagreements - i post shame on you and nbc/dateline.
i lot of response was done and only a few got the point and the real messaged.
well come on was it that difficult to get and read the point?
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Revelation 21 Verse 1 & 4
by Legendary U.2.K. inanybody else real excited about the future?
well the new heaven dont really concern me<-------144,000, we might finally get to see the thrones in the clouds, and a new earth<------rest of mankind/paradise .
the new earth will be hella fun, we get to play and hang out with all the animals, eat lot's of fruit, and lived in peace, and i wanna talk to noah(question for him, hehe) and i wanna ask christ or god, either one, can you give me powers, so i can fly in the heavens .
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I would like to point out that no battle takes place in the book of Revelation AKA the apocalypse of John. Any planing for a "battle" comes from Christians not Christ.
When Jesus came upon demons they didn't fight him or stand against him, they begged him for mercy. when the light shines into the darkness the darkness is destroyed, no battle, no resistance, no horror.
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Hi Incoherant,
I'm not free, yet, but you are! How lucky are you? How do I start?
you might not realize it now but you broke the first link in the chain, You already started. Now all you need to do is hold on it's a wild ride.As to what exactly to do?? Read, think, learn and ask Jesus, there is no other way to the farther. (i think i read that somewhere)
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non-jw's please check in here
by dungbeetle ini don't know if anyone has said this before, but i wanted to say a big thank you to all of you non-jw's who have put up with us and stayed with us and helped us out so much.. i know offhand: jerome, detective, and hawkaw.
i know there are many many more of you, but please step up here and take a very well-deserved bow and get a very well-deserved hand from me and from others..
salute!!!!!
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I was never a JW, but i attended the KH in Somerville, MA a few years when i was a kid. i remember when a speaker closed his speech with "i don't know if the next time we see each other will be this system or the next." I started to giggle and got in trouble with my dad. when we got outside he asked me what that was all about. I said I wanted to rase my hand and say, "this one."
A lot of what happened at the Hall was just boooooring most of all I remember waiting to worship God. Sunday meetings came and went, Wednesday night meetings came and went, all the time I wondered "when will we worship God."
I would give a shout out to big Jim Bird and family.
Willy_think, of the waiting on parodical family class.
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Advice needed- please help!
by detective inyesterday i received a surprise phone call from my jw friend.
we met up and uhhh, it was quite the mind-blowing event.
i can't believe it.
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He knows he has to tell his family and friends and, though he didn't say it in so many words, it's clear that he's afraid that he'll lose them all.
Not ALL, not you. He is going to need an ALL NEW support system of friends. if the feelings of isolation and the anxiety of separation can be lessened, it would aid him in his transition.
Joel has shown a grate deal of understanding in past posts and this one is not any deferent, I would, give his advice to your friend when the time is right.if all else false try Willy_think's "4W" plain: "Worldly Women Work Wonders"
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I'm Back
by Legendary U.2.K. ini came back for reasons, but you know, you should understand why i came back when you see me this dec or next feb 2003, bout to change the world soon... .
anyway i had another dream, another leader and his own country was screaming peace & we have safety, and then the whole planet was.
dark, and then i woke up... < scared me str, and btw i was trying to see which leader was saying that,'but for some reason, i could'nt .
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was that a bad dream or a good dream?
if you are troubled maybe a good counselor can help you with therapy and meds if needed.
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Elder with arrest warrant
by Insider inwhat would you think if you discovered that a local elder had a warrant for his arrest?
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I would think: " I wonder what it's for?"
What would the tower think?
If it benefits the WT PR to cut him loose, I think he would be DFed right quick. The WT legal would claim he was acting on his own.
If it would legally endanger the WT down the road, I think they would turn to the "War strategy" and fight, spending moneys into the millions if needed.
It's not the man that counts, it's the machine.
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Mind Control in the Watchtower
by SYN inintroduction .
having been a witness for many, many years, about 15 to be exact, i just thought i'd explain a few things for new-comers to this site about what it's like to be a "dub".
"dub" is just a convenient shorthand for "jehovah's witness", and is not meant to be derogatory, but i think i will stick to calling them witnesses here for the sake of people visiting during the furore upon whose brink we are sitting.. much of those early years i don't really remember.
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NeverJoinedTheBorg
Hmm...I guess I'm a bit new at seeing this stuff. Is it just me, or do these poor people have an inferiority complex due to what the organization is feeding them? I'm having a hard time differentiating between the followers, and the government that they are following. I really care for these folks, but the way they treat me is really difficult to stomach.
No, it's a persecution complex, you are persecuting them with your questions. Poof!! Into the sand go there heads safe from your bad influence. As to the differentiating, I think you will find the puppet much like the puppet master.
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I am so glad Dateline aired this
by imissthedub inas a few of you know, i almost became a jw just a short time ago.
thankfully, i did not.
the dateline piece was done well and should only be the start of the destruction of this elitist holy club.
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imissthedub,
don't expect too much from these people, I've been around my JW family most of my life, but never baptized, they shun me and because I was never baptized the X-JWs shun me too, never a JW you see. Most people like us don't last on this bord, I've seen them come and go. I hope you stay.
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They acted without 2 witnesses
by Sirona ini've only just been told of a case of suspected child abuse at the local hall.. the child (aged 4) was alone with the abuser.
she told her mother, who told the elders.
the elders and mother immediately informed the police, despite the fact that there was only one witness - the child.. then the elders proceeded to inform families in the congregation so that they can be on their guard.
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Just wondering what everyone thinks should be done if there is suspected child abuse. We tell the WTS that the 2 witness rule is wrong, then we tell them that doing something is wrong.
SironaThe elders are NOT a going to help you. Go to the police and a conusor. Even if you can't PROVE his/her gilt in this one case, it will help in any future cases against the perp.
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